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Let's Ban Pit Bulls

Vox said:
Actually, people tie their dogs up all the time and it works out fine.

Pit bulls, of course, will often end badly no matter what the owners do.

It's a losing game.

Oh, BTW.......I have posted ZERO lies here. You have repeatedly and without justification called me a liar.

Think about it.

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You have lied multiple times and been caught. And this was one of them.


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Vox said:
Actually, people tie their dogs up all the time and it works out fine.

Pit bulls, of course, will often end badly no matter what the owners do.

It's a losing game.

Oh, BTW.......I have posted ZERO lies here. You have repeatedly and without justification called me a liar.

Think about it.

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Pitbull heads can deflect bullets.

Lets start with that lie.



Again you are the threat to the neighborhood, not the dogs in it. You with minimal to no training, elderly, and paranoid are a potential ticking time bomb. Please, get some help before someone gets hurt.
 
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blackjack50 said:
You have lied multiple times and been caught. And this was one of them.


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Yes and what did we learn.

1. you have no idea what an actual pitbull is.
2. you believe they have bullet proof heads.
3. you believe they require dozens of bullets to stop
4. You believe that lab/retriever mixes are pitbulls
5. You believe that boston terriers are pitbulls.
6. You believe that they have more jaw pressure than all other dogs combined.
7. You believe Pit bulls weigh up to 170lbs
8. That you carry a gun, have little training and are paranoid of your neighbors dogs.
9. that anecdotal evidence and evidence based on hearsay is more scientific than peer reviewed scientific studies, the ASPCA, and numerous other experts.



That's what we learned from this thread. Carry on.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Pitbull heads can deflect bullets.

Lets start with that lie.

Again you are the threat to the neighborhood, not the dogs in it. You with minimal to no training, elderly, and paranoid are a ticking time bomb. Please, get some help before someone gets hurt.
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Yes, bullets have glanced off the dome-like heavy bone formation of the pit bull forehead.

Quite true. Fact is, I have never lied and you are libeling me.

And you have just lied about me with the personal attack above....."you are the threat to the neighborhood, not the dogs in it. You with minimal to no training, elderly, and paranoid are a ticking time bomb."

Try to do better.

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ReverendHellh0und said:
Yes and what did we learn.

1. you have no idea what an actual pitbull is.
2. you believe they have bullet proof heads.
3. you believe they require dozens of bullets to stop
4. You believe that lab/retriever mixes are pitbulls
5. You believe that boston terriers are pitbulls.
6. You believe that they have more jaw pressure than all other dogs combined.
7. You believe Pit bulls weigh up to 170lbs
8. That you carry a gun, have little training and are paranoid of your neighbors dogs.
9. that anecdotal evidence and evidence based on hearsay is more scientific than peer reviewed scientific studies, the ASPCA, and numerous other experts.

That's what we learned from this thread. Carry on.
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A lot of that is true and a lot is your imaginative distortions of what I've said......concluding with a personal attack on me, my mental health and my training.

But.......do you actually have anything valid to add to the thread or is this the sum of your contribution?

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Vox said:
Yes, bullets have glanced off the dome-like heavy bone formation of the pit bull forehead.
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Bull****, stop believing urban legends.

Quite true. Fact is, I have never lied and you are libeling me.
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Over and over again, see my list..

And you have just lied about me with the personal attack above....."you are the threat to the neighborhood, not the dogs in it. You with minimal to no training, elderly, and paranoid are a ticking time bomb."
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That's not a lie, that's an opinion. An opinion on someone well trained in the defensive and offensive use of arms, a combat veteran, a former Private military contractor who holds a masters in psychology from NYU.... I based my opinions on your paranoid rantings about the dogs in your neighborhood, and your bragging that you carry a weapons to harm them should one even look at you sideways. Given your inability to determine what a pit bull is, your elderly age, your lack of firearms training, it's is a fair assessment to suggest you get some help before you potentially hurt someone or someones loving family pet, or even yourself.



Try to do better.

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The Good Reverend ALWAYS does better, did you not know this? :pimpdaddy:
 
Vox said:
A lot of that is true and a lot is your imaginative distortions of what I've said......concluding with a personal attack on me, my mental health and my training.

But.......do you actually have anything valid to add to the thread or is this the sum of your contribution?

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No personal attack, facts and opinion, you are paranoid about the dogs in your neighborhood, you posted numerous times that you carry a gun because of them, you obviously have had little actual defensive handgun training, and your elderly which means your reflexes are not that of a mid 20's, I'm in my 40's so mines not as good as a 20 year olds, but our judgment is what's supposed to balance this. Your paranoia of your neighbors dogs is an imbalance with potential for a deadly outcome. Which of those is an attack?
 
The Latest Death Brings New Calls for Banning Pit Bulls

The article contains links to a shocking list of brutal pit bull attacks that resulted in people dying.



The dog could not be rounded up safely, and a police officer shot and killed the animal, police said.

Brown, who lived alone in an apartment in the neighborhood, died en route to the hospital.

The Montgomery County Coroner’s Office ruled Maurice Brown’s death an accident with the immediate cause being severe blood loss — clinically referred to as exsanguination due to extensive soft tissue trauma.
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Pit bull debate resurfaces after dog fatally attacks Dayton man

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ReverendHellh0und said:
Yes and what did we learn.

1. you have no idea what an actual pitbull is.
2. you believe they have bullet proof heads.
3. you believe they require dozens of bullets to stop
4. You believe that lab/retriever mixes are pitbulls
5. You believe that boston terriers are pitbulls.
6. You believe that they have more jaw pressure than all other dogs combined.
7. You believe Pit bulls weigh up to 170lbs
8. That you carry a gun, have little training and are paranoid of your neighbors dogs.
9. that anecdotal evidence and evidence based on hearsay is more scientific than peer reviewed scientific studies, the ASPCA, and numerous other experts.



That's what we learned from this thread. Carry on.
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I think you meant to quote Vox lol


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Vox said:
Yes, bullets have glanced off the dome-like heavy bone formation of the pit bull forehead.

Quite true. Fact is, I have never lied and you are libeling me.

And you have just lied about me with the personal attack above....."you are the threat to the neighborhood, not the dogs in it. You with minimal to no training, elderly, and paranoid are a ticking time bomb."

Try to do better.

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You have demonstrated that you don't understand ballistics. Bullets have bounced off human skulls too. Not really a difficult feet.
Anyway.

No comment on my "untrained pit" in my video?


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ReverendHellh0und said:
No personal attack, facts and opinion, you are paranoid about the dogs in your neighborhood, you posted numerous times that you carry a gun because of them, you obviously have had little actual defensive handgun training, and your elderly which means your reflexes are not that of a mid 20's, I'm in my 40's so mines not as good as a 20 year olds, but our judgment is what's supposed to balance this. Your paranoia of your neighbors dogs is an imbalance with potential for a deadly outcome. Which of those is an attack?
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All personal attack and none backed up by facts.

As I said, libel.

You are attacking me personally rather than responding to the topic.

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blackjack50 said:
You have demonstrated that you don't understand ballistics. Bullets have bounced off human skulls too.
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Thank you for admitting that I was correct in saying that bullets have bounced off pit bull skulls.

Oh, and I have an excellent background in ballistics, both as a civilian and career military.

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Vox said:
All personal attack and none backed up by facts.

As I said, libel.

You are attacking me personally rather than responding to the topic.

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It's not libel at all, I don't think you understand the meaning of that word.


I am of the opinion you are dog paranoid, and that being armed while afraid of the neighborhood dogs is a dangerous situation.
 
Vox said:
A lot of that is true and a lot is your imaginative distortions of what I've said......concluding with a personal attack on me, my mental health and my training.

But.......do you actually have anything valid to add to the thread or is this the sum of your contribution?

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Do you? Your evidence has consisted of responses from non experts. Your news accounts never have actual photos. You have labeled Rottweilers at pit bulls (which is hilarious) as well as many other dogs that are not.

Basically...you have to lie to try and make your point valid. You have to set arbitrary lines for definitions so that a 10 pound dog to 130 pound dog...is a pit bull. Which is hilarious in and of itself. You are so afraid of dogs that you can't be around anything that even remotely my by considered dangerous by you. Him claiming you are being paranoid isn't a personal attack...it is a valid observation. Seriously...a Boston terrier and a Rottweiler are pit bulls?

How ****ing stupid.

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Vox said:
The police identified it.........WHEN THEY SHOT IT.

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No they didn't. They shot it. They don't care what it is. Cops have shot golden retrievers too. You can't trust police with dog identification.


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I understand the definition of libel. Do you?

Li·bel
ˈlībəl/

Noun: libel;
1.
Law
a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination.
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Think it over.

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Vox said:
Thank you for admitting that I was correct in saying that bullets have bounced off pit bull skulls.

Oh, and I have an excellent background in ballistics, both as a civilian and career military.

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I have no idea what you said. I treat you like the guy at my local dog park whose Labrador is an asshole...I drift in and out when you talk because nothing you say can be trusted.

At any rate. Acting as if it somehow special that a round is deflected off of something as dense as dense as bone...basically tells me you don't REALLY have experience with ballistics. I've seen rounds deflect off water and dirt. Angle of attack and trajectory and all that being extremely important.


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Vox said:
I understand the definition of libel. Do you?



Think it over.

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No comment on my untrained pit?


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Bodhisattva said:
Here are the beliefs of some experts:


Expert opinions | National Pit Bull Victim Awareness

Thank You Letter: Experienced Dog Trainer Shares Dog Attack Story & Professional Opinion - DogsBite.org

Facts on the Danger of all Pit Bull Type Dogs: Stanley Coren, Ph.D. expert on Dog behavior's views on pit bull type dogs
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American Veterinary Medical Association) know that pit bulls are no greater risk than any other large dog breed:

https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/L...of-Breed-in-Dog-Bite-Risk-and-Prevention.aspx

https://www.avma.org/public/Pages/Why-Breed-Specific-Legislation-is-not-the-Answer.aspx

https://www.avma.org/Advocacy/StateAndLocal/Documents/javma_000915_fatalattacks.pdf


And your sources are from a) anti pit bull site
B) another dubious anti pitbull site started by someone with a vendetta and pension for obfuscation c) a human psychologist whose only "expertise" is that dogs are his hobby lol.


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More on the Mayhem:

A ferocious pit bull that has previously terrorized residents of a Rockland County town attacked a toddler as he played with other kids on an area street, leaving him mauled on the face and in need of stitches, officials said Friday.

Surveillance footage of the horrific attack, posted online, shows the dog charging at the 3-year-old, dragging and tossing him around like a rag doll at around 6 p.m. Thursday on North Cole Avenue in Spring Valley.

The boy, identified as Eli Mendlowitz, can then be seen struggling to crawl away before the dog pounces on him a second time.
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Pit bull that mauled boy had terrorized town: neighbors | New York Post
 
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