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Let's Ban Pit Bulls

Vox said:
My first dog (at the age of five) was a Chesapeake Bay retriever (a large and formidable dog).

I've owned and trained Labs, goldens and Chessies for many years.

Last summer a big Lab rushed us and I held him on the ground in a headlock until his owner took control of him.......(note, I didn't shoot him).

I've faced down several pit bulls over the past few years while my wife held our dog.......and haven't shot one yet.

No, I'm not scared of dogs.......I love them.

Pit bulls are dogs that have been warped into something else by selective breeding for one thing......mayhem.

I don't include them in the species.

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So that was a pitbull then, obviously.



The lab was probably rushing you to greet you. If you were as you claimed, you could have read the dogs body language, and had a sense of the breed's goofy love for all things human. If that dog was a "pit bull type", you assuredly would have ignorantly shot it.
 
Vox said:
So, don't expect any warning from a pit bull.

In fact, you can expect the opposite.......sudden aggression that is totally unexpected.

That's how they win fights (sudden and unexpected used of those massive jaws).

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Again. A myth that is commonly spread. Much like the "locking jaw."

ALL dogs are predators and have specific signals, hackles, tail, and so on.


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Vox said:
I don't have a "Chessie" and, as I explained above, "biting" is not the issue.

Pit bull apologists just try to shift the conversation to "biting" to avoid the real issue of maiming, hospitalization and death.

As for the Boston Terrier......each case is judged on its own merits in court......so if the Boston Terrier or mongrel mix is deemed by judge and jury to be a pit bull--it IS a pit bull.

You don't like that.

Too bad......it's the law, not opinion.

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Wait, you claimed earlier, that a pure boston was indeed a pitbull. Which Ironically it is the closest thing which you have called among the random breeds, to a pit bull. You also suggested based on one instance where there was a boston involved in a pack attack, that all boston's should fall under the BSL.....


are you lying now or were you lying then?
 
Thorgasm said:
Exactly. There lots of big dogs out there they will want to ban. If there were as many boerboels in America as there are pit bulls that's all we would hear about.
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in the 1800's the bloodhound was the scary dog of the day.
 
Vox said:
Note that the Chesapeake Bay retriever does not fit the legal definition of pit bull.

There's a very good reason for that.

Chesapeakes are good dogs.

Pit bulls have been genetically warped into killing machines.

Simple difference.

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Man Facing Charges after Dogs Allegedly Attacked Criglersville T - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather
Attacked over backyard fence, Portage woman recalls dog bite trauma | MLive.com
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...aryland-cop-kills-dog/?utm_term=.9bceabd000e3



Chesapeakes have a reputation for being the "not nice" retriever breed. here you have several examples of them being not nice. The last one a cop shot, which you should approve of.


You doomed the boston based on one incident, therefore, the chesapeake should also be doomed by your logic.


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eohrnberger said:
People like Pit Bulls too, and this thread demonstrates.


Typical 'Everything I like is good, and everything I don't like is bad and should be banned' mentality.

On that basis, Pit Bulls are good, and those who don't like Pit Bulls should be banned.
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He is ironically a gun owner..... He uses the same logic hoplophobes and gun grabbers use.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Man Facing Charges after Dogs Allegedly Attacked Criglersville T - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather
Attacked over backyard fence, Portage woman recalls dog bite trauma | MLive.com
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...aryland-cop-kills-dog/?utm_term=.9bceabd000e3



Chesapeakes have a reputation for being the "not nice" retriever breed. here you have several examples of them being not nice. The last one a cop shot, which you should approve of.


You doomed the boston based on one incident, therefore, the chesapeake should also be doomed by your logic.


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I have met a few Chesapeakes and have only met ONE good one. It was a game and fish dog and the handler was kick ass. One of the best in the state actually (highly awarded and runs his own training business).


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Vox said:
Today's mayhem:



https://patch.com/new-york/northfork/pit-bull-attacks-kills-neighbors-dog-mattituck-police
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Patch.com which does the local news? Where is even a picture of the dogs in question. this is your problem, you take the word of people taking the word of other people telling a story, you like that hysterical woman at "dogbite.org" take a story like this and count it as two pitbull attacks, There was never, any confirmation.


This is why the dogbite.org site is for idiots and the gullible. If a doctor said to me.... "we should ban pit bull's, you don't understand how many bites I have treated". A person, who is not an idiot might ask. "wait, how do you know they were pitbulls? Did you see the dog?"


Not the hysterical woman at dogbite.org, and people like you. You say "see pit bulls r baaaaaaad". meanwhile actual peer reviewed studies show that dogs are misidentified as pitbulls 40+% of the time. but that pesky science and facts are no match to your fear... and your fear is the threat. not the nice dogs in your neighborhood.
 
Vox said:
The fool who brought the pit bull into a store to mingle with other dogs and children should be in jail.

The owner of the small dog had every right to kill the pit bull to save his dog.



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Why do you insist on lying. he nipped the dog on the ear as dogs are known to do. You also had no marks on the little dog. Are you saying that any contact between a pitbull and another dog, the other dog's owner should have the right to maul it with a knife in front of women and children?


Please don't do this to someones pet because of your irrational fear.
 
Vox said:
LOL! He saved his dog and probably saved some of the children who were nearby when the pit bull went psycho and grabbed his dog by the neck. Once that mauling, ticking pit bull genetic code goes off.......often others are chomped by those massive jaws.

Courageous guy with just a knife taking over and eliminating the threat.

Well done.

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the only threat in this situation was the nut bag with a knife. His type of thinking, and irrational fear of dogs should be adjudicated mentally unfit to possess a weapon, gun or knife. We can't have dog phobic asshole nut bags like this itching to kill peoples pets because of their mental sickness.
 
Vox said:
A few excellent quotes from experts on the pit bull problem:



Why pit bulls are different | Ban Pit Bulls

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ASPCA never said this. Why do you insist on posting liars?


https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls

"These dogs have long been popular family pets, noted for their gentleness, affection and loyalty. And even those pit bulls bred to fight other animals were not prone to aggressiveness toward people. Dogs used for fighting needed to be routinely handled by people; therefore aggression toward people was not tolerated. Any dog that behaved aggressively toward a person was culled, or killed, to avoid passing on such an undesirable trait. Research on pet dogs confirms that dog aggressive dogs are no more likely to direct aggression toward people than dogs that aren’t aggressive to other dogs."


also:
Please note: This position is statement is intended to be considered in its entirety and excerpting is not recommended.


please read the thing in full.
 
Vox said:
Today's Mayhem Continued.

Another child, this time a four-year-old, viciously mauled.....with skull punctured by the teeth of the pit bull.

How LONG??? When will it end?

Pit bull attacks 4-year-old in Brunswick | Jacksonville News, Sports and Entertainment | jacksonville.com

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"The dog was chained, Doering said."


Help Chained Dogs | A Common Form of Animal Cruelty


Chaining is cruel and makes dogs aggressive. breed in not important. like the other article we have to take the word of a reporter who takes the word of another.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
no pictures, just a claim of "pitbull"
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I suppose you think a poodle could have been the dog that crushed a child's skull?

Only pit bulls can do this and the police and news reports that identify them as PIT BULLS are correct.

You pit bull apologists care more about your killing machines that you do about toddlers being maimed by them.

You should really think hard about that problem.

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ReverendHellh0und said:
"The dog was chained, Doering said."


Help Chained Dogs | A Common Form of Animal Cruelty


Chaining is cruel and makes dogs aggressive. breed in not important. like the other article we have to take the word of a reporter who takes the word of another.
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So an innocent child is maimed and your sympathies immediately go to the mauler?

Where is your humanity?

If pit bulls had been banned in that town.......this child would not have been maimed.

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Vox said:
Today's Mayhem Continued.

Another child, this time a four-year-old, viciously mauled.....with skull punctured by the teeth of the pit bull.

How LONG??? When will it end?

Pit bull attacks 4-year-old in Brunswick | Jacksonville News, Sports and Entertainment | jacksonville.com

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This "always blame the dog's breed" idea ignores that the "guilty" dog was on the private property of its owner and either fenced, penned or chained - which is within the law (at least here in Texas). Defending its territory (or itself) is not aggressive behavior - it is instinct. Nobody has any idea what the kid did (or did not do) to the dog - we do know that the "not guilty" babysitter had no clue where the kid was or what the kid was doing.
 
Vox said:
I suppose you think a poodle could have been the dog that crushed a child's skull?

Only pit bulls can do this and the police and news reports that identify them as PIT BULLS are correct.

You pit bull apologists care more about your killing machines that you do about toddlers being maimed by them.

You should really think hard about that problem.

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Labradors have killed children.

Boy, 4, killed by family Labrador in horror attack | News24

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/ani...familys-german-shepherd-san-marcos-police-say

Chow chows, dobbermans, Rotties, on and on the list goes. Only a "pit bull?" So you are saying labs and GSDs are pits now?


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blackjack50 said:
No picture of the "mixed breed."

So we obviously don't know what the dog is.
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Since the COURTS have ruled that a person of ordinary intelligence can identify a pit bull (just to nullify the specious protests of pit bull apologists like yourself) and since the police are of ordinary intelligence.......

WE OBVIOUSLY DO KNOW THE DOG IS A PIT BULL.

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ttwtt78640 said:
This "always blame the dog's breed" idea ignores that the "guilty" dog was on the private property of its owner and either fenced, penned or chained - which is within the law (at least here in Texas). Defending its territory (or itself) is not aggressive behavior - it is instinct. Nobody has any idea what the kid did (or did not do) to the dog - we do know that the "not guilty" babysitter had no clue where the kid was or what the kid was doing.
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So you blame the victim? Typical pit bull apologist.

The FACT remains that if these bastard dogs were BANNED.......the child would not have been maimed for life.

Try facing that fact.

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