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US Disses Human Rights Hearing


Perhaps, or perhaps a sign Americans are tired of being chastised for how we handle our internal affairs and being pilloried over past indiscretions over and over again.

Participants heard from critics of the administration’s executive orders on immigration policy. Another session dealt with the plight of Japanese immigrants in Latin America who were forcibly taken to an American internment camp during World War II. A third featured experts who raised concerns about challenges to people seeking asylum in the United States.

Two of those points refer to immigration, and as a sovereign nation we don't have to listen to any outside complaints about how we handle our own immigration policy...especially from the worst abusers among the OAS.

The third is old news from World War II (under a Democratic Administration no less) and anyone old enough to have actually been involved in making that policy is either dead or in an old age home.

Going to these mudslinging festivals may seem wonderful to those inclined to virtue signaling, but IMO they are a waste of time. :coffeepap:
 
Perhaps, or perhaps a sign Americans are tired of being chastised for how we handle our internal affairs and being pilloried over past indiscretions over and over again.



Two of those points refer to immigration, and as a sovereign nation we don't have to listen to any outside complaints about how we handle our own immigration policy...especially from the worst abusers among the OAS.

The third is old news from World War II (under a Democratic Administration no less) and anyone old enough to have actually been involved in making that policy is either dead or in an old age home.

Going to these mudslinging festivals may seem wonderful to those inclined to virtue signaling, but IMO they are a waste of time. :coffeepap:

I'll go with your first "perhaps", though I agree it's pushing it at this late date to be conferencing on WWII treatment of Japanese Americans. The whole point of these hearings is to air concerns
on human rights abuses alleged to be occurring within the member nations. The U.S. has always shown its respect for the process before by sending a representative, whether or not we acknowledged
the validity of a given complaint.
 
I don't think that we should be lectured on human rights abuses from countries that have no moral ground to stand on. Mexico has a wall at it's southern border. Brazil evicted people from their homes and neighborhoods to build now crumbling Olympic stadiums. Venezuela. Need I say more? Cuba. The country with one of the highest literacy rates and GREAT healthcare. As reported by the president who received 100% of the popular vote. But yeah. Let's listen to these countries tell us how we're mean to people.

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The third is old news from World War II (under a Democratic Administration no less) and anyone old enough to have actually been involved in making that policy is either dead or in an old age home.

Not to mention that during that same time you have the Rape of Nanking and extermination camps for Jews going on. So unless we're going to rehash all that stuff as well...
 
I'll go with your first "perhaps", though I agree it's pushing it at this late date to be conferencing on WWII treatment of Japanese Americans. The whole point of these hearings is to air concerns
on human rights abuses alleged to be occurring within the member nations. The U.S. has always shown its respect for the process before by sending a representative, whether or not we acknowledged
the validity of a given complaint.

The U.S. has allowed a lot of things to fly that they should not have. Oh, and immigration is not a human right.
 
The ironic thing is that the areas we could be criticized on wasn't mentioned. Those areas being foreign interventionism and also the Obama administrations sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia to continue war crimes in Yemen and also his support of extremists and terrorists in Syria.
 
The UN's human rights groups are a ****ing joke.

Trump ain't wrong for this and previous presidents haven't cared any more about these things than his administration. And for good reason given they're a farce as another said.


Oh, and immigration is not a human right.

I'm all for legal immigration and opposing xenophobia, but I have no idea who spun up this narrative that immigration is a human right.
 
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Stay away from globalists. We have enough issues to address at the moment.

Theres no teeth in any of that right now. If countries dont like to be told what to do they just leave anyway.

Brazil, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Peru, Trinidad and Tobago, and Venezuela have all variously suspended payment of organisational dues, (temporarily) withdrawn their ambassadors, and/or threatened to leave, or actually withdrawn from, the Inter-American System following contested decisions.

They want to drag the US in there and get the country to pay for their coffee and croissants.

Challenges and Criticisms


Enforceability. For many, an essential component of an effectively functioning judicial system is that its decisions are enforceable. As a supra-national body the Inter-American Court has a less developed enforcement mechanism than do most state-level systems. For example, according to a 2010 study by González-Salzberg (see further reading section), OAS member states had, up to 2008, wholly failed to implement aspects of Court rulings in 30% of cases. Compliance with edicts to modify domestic legislation had the lowest compliance rates, with implementation achieved in only 20% of instances. Moreover, where countries have strongly disputed Court rulings they have often made recourse to punitive action or sought refuge in disengagement. Over the past few decades, Brazil, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Peru, Trinidad and Tobago, and Venezuela have all variously suspended payment of organisational dues, (temporarily) withdrawn their ambassadors, and/or threatened to leave, or actually withdrawn from, the Inter-American System following contested decisions.

Financial and Operational Constraints. The Court and, in particular, the Commission receive a comparatively small proportion of the OAS’s total annual budget. Funds provided by this source are insufficient to meet organisational outgoings so the Court and Commission rely on external sources of finance and contributions from member states to make up the shortfall. Operating under financial constraints, the agencies have had to keep personnel numbers limited and heavily restrict the budget for proactive human rights research and investigation. This has produced complaints from within and outside the system over the limited quantity and scope of work these bodies are able to undertake.

Non-Universality of Relevant Instruments. Approximately one third of OAS member states have not ratified the American Convention on Human Rights to accept the jurisdiction of the Court. Accordingly, not all citizens of the Americas are able to utilise the full range of IAHRS mechanisms as a way of protecting and promoting their human rights. Though the United States is one of the major financers of the IAHRS, and hosts the Commission in Washington, it has not accepted the jurisdiction of the Court. Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and others have loudly complained that the US position on the Inter-American System is inconsistent, even hypocritical, as a result. Some even cite this fact to support their assertions that the Court’s agenda is, or has been, driven by political considerations. Such claims could potentially serve to undermine perceptions of the legitimacy of this judicial mechanism.

Range of Human Rights Issues Covered. In the early period, the Inter-American System principally focused on violations perpetrated by military dictatorships and authoritarian governments in the midst of political repression. As the human rights environment in the Americas has evolved, so have the cases examined and adjudicated by the Court and Commission. Recent recommendations and rulings on other rights’ issues – such as indigenous rights, abortion and gay rights – have brought the Court and Commission into opposition with several states and interest groups. The ire of Brazil and Ecuador was provoked, for example, by verdicts in favour of indigenous groups that argued they had been inadequately consulted over major investment projects developed on (or near) their land. Conservative and religious organisations have also vociferously objected to recent rulings upholding gay rights and abortion. Many such individuals argue the Court should instead focus exclusively on ‘traditional’ human rights issues, such as torture and traditional forms of violence.


Inter-American Human Rights Network » Challenges and Criticisms
 
I'll go with your first "perhaps", though I agree it's pushing it at this late date to be conferencing on WWII treatment of Japanese Americans. The whole point of these hearings is to air concerns
on human rights abuses alleged to be occurring within the member nations. The U.S. has always shown its respect for the process before by sending a representative, whether or not we acknowledged
the validity of a given complaint.

Not allowing people into the country is not a human right abuse.
 
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