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Trump scorecard, as of March 26, 2017

Hawkeye10 said:
I just read the other day that that is a myth.
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You did not read that from the people who lost their jobs to slave labor but the rich who are becoming rich off them.

Hawkeye10 said:
Apparently imports only do jobs that Real Americans refuse to do so it is all OK.
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Jobs that do not even pay minimum wage, with no benefits, for cash (circumventing our tax and labor laws) in unsafe conditions, usually forcing the people to work 12+ hours a day.

Hawkeye10 said:
I laughed too.
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I bet you do think the mistreating and using of people is funny.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
You did not read that from the people who lost their jobs to slave labor but the rich who are becoming rich off them.



Jobs that do not even pay minimum wage, with no benefits, for cash (circumventing our tax and labor laws) in unsafe conditions, usually forcing the people to work 12+ hours a day.



I bet you do think the mistreating of people is funny.
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Oh come on, the way things are ya gotta either laugh or cry.

Tonight I choose to laugh.
 
radcen said:
Trump scorecard, as of March 26, 2017

0-2

Immigration ban, down in flames. Healthcare, down in flames. My, such an auspicious start.

(Not including things that he has made a big deal to reiterate but no action taken yet.)
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TheGoverness said:
Tired of winning yet, Mr. Trump?
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Is this going to be another liberal rationalizing thread?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am pretty certain that the globalists assure us that that idea that the imports depress the wage scale is a myth as well.

They use the word "Myth" and everything, which means that it is like VOODOO and ****.

They are the experts, they should know!
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Go to the fields in CA, AZ, NM, TX, etc and see the myth first hand. I have. That is to say nothing of what goes on all across this country.I have seen them carried off from heat stroke or exhaustion from working on Roofs in the South for less than minimum wage. The big advantage of the illegal worker is there is no one to sue the owners over dangerous and illegal working conditions. They are doing the jobs the average American will not and should not be doing. Stop listening to the asbestos manufactures and cigarette companies telling you that it is myth that their products are killing people. They had the experts also. I have walked away from jobs where working conditions were unsafe yet these illegal workers were doing it every day. If nothing else You should not be able to look in the mirror if you support the exploitation of these people.


Hawkeye10 said:
This so-so sarcasm has been brought to you by HAWKEYE10, your slightly humble servant.
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Go take a long hard look then talk from experience and the facts not the lies from the criminals exploiting these people.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Go to the fields in CA, AZ, NM, TX, etc and see the myth first hand. I have. That is to say nothing of what goes on all across this country.I have seen them carried off from heat stroke or exhaustion from working on Roofs in the South for less than minimum wage. The big advantage of the illegal worker is there is no one to sue the owners over dangerous and illegal working conditions. They are doing the jobs the average American will not and should not be doing. Stop listening to the asbestos manufactures and cigarette companies telling you that it is myth that their products are killing people. They had the experts also. I have walked away from jobs where working conditions were unsafe yet these illegal workers were doing it every day. If nothing else You should not be able to look in the mirror if you support the exploitation of these people.




Go take a long hard look then talk from experience and the facts not the lies from the criminals exploiting these people.
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I feel like you missed the sarcasm clue.

What is all the apparent anger I see?

You do know I am a socialist?
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
After leading the horse to water if they do not drink there is not much left to do but wait for them to die or smarten up. In the mean time move on to something else. The problems this country faces are more than anyone can fix in 100 years. To dwell on 1 thing while dealing with people who rather die than drink is stupid.
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I did not say or suggest he should continue to dwell on the single issue. To continue to dwell on a single issue would indeed be stupid... which is what he did, in a sense, up to this point, when he said so much hinged on this, but I digress. Anyway, people, especially broken into teams, can indeed multitask.

He should have said afterward something like this, "We are not going to abandon you, the people. We will continue to work for a better solution. But in the mean time, there are other things we need to address as well."

Instead he came out with a petulant response of, "Screw the people. Let them suffer. I'm going to take my ball and play another game."
 
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holbritter said:
Have you given every president just 3 months before saying they failed? Or just the ones you don't agree with.
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It's clear that since the only part you could find issue with is my supposed bias, that you cannot find fault with my score. Thank you. :)

And I probably have kept score of in a similar manner of every President in my political lifetime, but know that not all started out at 0-2. Some had successes.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I feel like you missed the sarcasm clue.

What is all the apparent anger I see?

You do know I am a socialist?
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I did miss it. It is called old-timers. It comes on after 50.

If you don't write it down you will come back from the store with everything but what you went for.

You can't see things in plain sight either.
 
radcen said:
I did not say or suggest he should continue to dwell on the single issue. To continue to dwell on a single issue would indeed be stupid... which is what he did, in a sense, up to this point, when he said so much hinged on this, but I digress. Anyway, people, especially broken into teams, can indeed multitask.

He should have said afterward something like this, "We are not going to abandon you, the people. We will continue to work for a better solution. But in the mean time, there are other things we need to address as well."

Instead he came out with a petulant response of, "Screw the people. Let them suffer. I'm going to take my ball and play another game."
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Trump is finding out what I already know. Both parties work for the same rich and powerful and play us for the fools we are. He will never get any cooperation from either party unless the deal favors the rich and powerful not the people. If he was asking for trillions of dollars to bail out the bankers who screwed up both parties would have approved it the first week he was in office.

Hillary is not president because she was for single payer. Too many rich and powerful people would be cut out of the loop. The real cause of our overpaying for health care is all the millionaires and billionaires that have to be paid off with our premiums instead of paying for our health care.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Trump is finding out what I already know. Both parties work for the same rich and powerful and play us for the fools we are. He will never get any cooperation from either party unless the deal favors the rich and powerful not the people. If he was asking for trillions of dollars to bail out the bankers who screwed up both parties would have approved it the first week he was in office.

Hillary is not president because she was for single payer. Too many rich and powerful people would be cut out of the loop. The real cause of our overpaying for health care is all the millionaires and billionaires that have to be paid off with our premiums instead of paying for our health care.
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I'm with ya on this. Too bad the people don't understand how much power they actually possess, and don't use.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
As apposed to continuing to overpay for health care.
As apposed to more people moving from middle class to poverty as the livable wage becomes a pipe dream. Thanks to the rich and powerful using slave labor from other countries to replace American citizens who only want a livable wage.
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And Trump will fix all that?

:lamo:lamo:lamo

In four years you'll still be over paying for health care
 
PolitiFacts gives Trump 5 promises made, 1 compromised, and 24 in the works, with no promises broken.

At this stage, Obama had 8 promises made, 4 promised broken, and 2 compromised.

I would say that he isn't doing badly so far. Long ways to go.
Fact-checking U.S. politics | PolitiFact
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I did miss it. It is called old-timers. It comes on after 50.

If you don't write it down you will come back from the store with everything but what you went for.

You can't see things in plain sight either.
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All my life I have mocked the list makers.

Now I am one.
 
Fearandloathing said:
And Trump will fix all that?

:lamo:lamo:lamo

In four years you'll still be over paying for health care
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It appears you may be right. Both parties have proven they will not work together for the benefit of the American people. If it doesn't make their rich and powerful benefactors money it just don't get done. If Trump keeps fighting for the people they will get rid of him one way or another.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
It appears you may be right. Both parties have proven they will not work together for the benefit of the American people. If it doesn't make their rich and powerful benefactors money it just don't get done. If Trump keeps fighting for the people they will get rid of him one way or another.
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Trump is many things, but he is not a man of the people.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
It appears you may be right. Both parties have proven they will not work together for the benefit of the American people. If it doesn't make their rich and powerful benefactors money it just don't get done. If Trump keeps fighting for the people they will get rid of him one way or another.
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Oh.

Because he's been so successful so far.

One try, doesn't even get presented and he gives up.

He said he would fix it in 100 days...and you STILL think this lying swine is going to get you what you want?

Ok, that's , well, interesting.

One thing I would like you to straighten out for me. Is Trump a friend of Putin and met with him, or, as his story has suddenly become, he has NEVER met Putin.

I've been asking this question because of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VjpE3Z1-bw&t=65s

So help us out here, which is it? If he never met Putin, why did he say he did? If he has, we KNOW the reason, it's because he asked Putin to help him win the election.

One way or another this question needs to be answered. Until it is, no one should believe any of you.

It's either a cover-up on going, or he outright lied to get elected.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Oh.

Because he's been so successful so far.

One try, doesn't even get presented and he gives up.

He said he would fix it in 100 days...and you STILL think this lying swine is going to get you what you want?

Ok, that's , well, interesting.

One thing I would like you to straighten out for me. Is Trump a friend of Putin and met with him, or, as his story has suddenly become, he has NEVER met Putin.

I've been asking this question because of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VjpE3Z1-bw&t=65s

So help us out here, which is it? If he never met Putin, why did he say he did? If he has, we KNOW the reason, it's because he asked Putin to help him win the election.

One way or another this question needs to be answered. Until it is, no one should believe any of you.

It's either a cover-up on going, or he outright lied to get elected.
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If Trump can turn an enemy such as Russia into an ally he will be a great president in my Opinion. Russia is a democracy now in every sense of the word as is America. I would love to see improving relations and trade with Russia.
 
radcen said:
Trump scorecard, as of March 26, 2017

0-2

Immigration ban, down in flames. Healthcare, down in flames. My, such an auspicious start.

(Not including things that he has made a big deal to reiterate but no action taken yet.)
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I'd so, 0-3 since NSA appointment Flynn didn't even last a month.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
If Trump can turn an enemy such as Russia into an ally he will be a great president in my Opinion. Russia is a democracy now in every sense of the word as is America. I would love to see improving relations and trade with Russia.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

Try stand up, you're hilarious.

What kind of an ally rigs your election?
 
Fearandloathing said:
I believe I said during the election and was roasted by both sides was that you were left between a rich and powerful ***** grabbing sleaze bag and a rich and powerful sleaze bag woman, both of whom are beholding to other rich and powerful sleaze bags.

In the end, as Socrates said "people get the government they deserve." From my perspective the system crashed and the rich and powerful rose even higher when the American people let Bill Clinton off the hook for lying under oath. The people, for the most part was so ****ing ignorant they thought it was all about a blow job and rightfully were that the case, ignored it all.

However it was about the integrity of the Office of President of the United States. "The people" had no concern at all about that and now, as a result, the office is a comedy sketch of a fat, rich and powerful freak wanders the halls all night tweeting insane bull****, an office where its occupant can show such contempt for the people that voted him in that after one set back walked away from the hard ask, the task of professionals, and abandoned the hopes of Americans who wanted a new health care plan.

That is not the path to greatness. That is the path to the same old **** you've been force fed for the last 20 years.

I wonder what the "wall" with Mexico is really going to look like
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The only reason I voted for Hillary was to re-balance the Supreme Court. We're going to continue the head down the road to more decisions like "Citizens United" which allows the wealthy and corporations to buy politicians.

Oligarchy, here we come!
 
Fearandloathing said:
:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

Try stand up, you're hilarious.

What kind of an ally rigs your election?
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The United States Government interferes with (rigs elections) all the time.

Governments all over the world have been funding our parties for decades now through devious means.

Hillary was given the questions to the debate with Trump in an attempt to rig the outcome of the debate and our elections.

I could go on all day.

What about what happened to Bernie Sanders.

What about using the IRS to attack the tea party.

The list goes on and on. We could fill the library of congress with the corruption and rigging of our elective process.

Only an uninformed naive person would believe that this Russian hack is the first and only rigging of our elective process.

If they ever come up with the proof that it actually happened.
 
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