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The art of the deal= every good American is rolling on the floor.

Fearandloathing said:
Nice personal attack.

I asked "what have YOU got" and the reply was a repeat of the first with an added insult.

It was a horribly stupid post.

Good bye
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Thin skinned are you not??? Lol , need a safe space? Comfort puppy?

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Fearandloathing said:
Ego.

That's all.

Just ego backed by bull****. For all his bravado it is clear he's in way over his head.

And I don't forget the **** heaped on Obama for, in comparison, rather minor mistakes. FFS, you all raked him for using a teleprompter in the White House. How else would he have gotten experience?

But Trump can waste a week or two of congressional debate at what cost and he's a genius. This reminds me of the Jimmy Carter administration only with a blow hard liar.

One thing Americans are going to have to change is your reaction to criticisms. I have been accused of "HATE" time and time again by people who have NEVER looked in my eyes, never heard me speak and don't even know if I have legs. It's sick.

Is panel discussion on radio last week a noted German historian noted that that was one of the first come backs by Hitler's brown shirts.

I have to ask, if the word is thrown around so easily, what does that say about Americans and how THEY feel about their neighbors. Sometimes I think you hate each other hate each other more than ISIS.


I had a wonderful birthday, just what I wanted - solitude and worked on some drawings [of bonsai trees] worked on the painting that sold "Orchid and my painting "War" in its third rendition. It is a picture with a dark blue background fading to light green-blue with a 9 mm bullet blasting through a large American Beauty rose.

Who would have thought I would bring social commentary to my art.
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Who indeed? :thumbs: What comments did you get - that's an unusual painting in most people's opinion!
 
polgara said:
Who indeed? :thumbs: What comments did you get - that's an unusual painting in most people's opinion!
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I haven't showed any of the verions because the are ****.

The "suffering" of the artist is not in the they are isolated from society most of the time, not the fact they are usually starving, but because we all know that what we see with the mind's eye will NEVER be presented exactly like you we see it in our head.

The theme is this, few things in this world represent beauty, peace, serenity and good fellowship than a rose. There are few things more insane/stupid than war. So as a student of the grotesque I am fascinated with out of place representations, like "Fishing for Man", is a fish swimming up out of a blue bowl amid clematis vines and about to close its toothed jaws on a shadow of a little girl. Clearly Dali has figured heavily in what I do.

So far, I have earned $77 selling my work. So far I have invested about $100 on supplies [pencils are $3 each] another $150 in the form of a grant from the health system and $30 more in laundry trying to get acrylics out of stuff.

One day working at the studio down town I somehow painted the left side of my hair Pthalo Blue and didn't discover it till that night.
 
Partsguy57 said:
Hmm over his Head? What makes you the expert? How many countries have you run? How many billions?? How many big deals?? O
wait none!!! I'll take the wait and see attitude about trump. The wait and see is coming in on Obama care and it's not good. It helped put Trump in office.

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1. The Republicans will make sure Obamacare is not funded and provisions will be cut, ensuring its further failure. They've already put something in the federal budget about it.

2. I don't know how many Presidencies you've witnessed, but anyone with a brain, ears, and vision can see what a historical disaster Trump has been so far for our country. He's alienated and insulted our allies, lies constantly with makes the office of the President uncredible, he's trashed our Justice system, he's trashed our system of government, he's pushed through severe cuts to dismantle the operation of all agencies that provide services to the public (like the EPA, HHS, Dept of Labor), he's pushed through a massive cut to the State Dept (which we rely on for relationships with all the other countries in the world, and is a key to preventing war), he's trashed the free press calling it the enemy of the people, he's tried to push through an EO so lousy and illegal that it was immediately stopped by multiple courts, he's harmed our relationships with other countries, his budget has hit the already-hard-hit areas of the country that have struggled with decreasing jobs, he has turned his back on every promise he made (so far), he has set an angry hateful tone that has violence and hatred running rampant throughout the country, he has accomplished very little, he continues to lie daily, he has falsely accused a prior President of wiretapping him, he failed to negotiate the passage of his signature bill for healthcare, he's spending historical millions of dollars (about $30M so far) on golfing and resort weekend vacations almost every weekend (so that Fox issued an "alert"---that Trump was staying in Washington this weekend!), he has emboldened racists and misogynists, who are getting bolder in their language and violence, including the official white supremacists, he accused our closest ally Great Britain of wiretapping him, and so on.

3. David Gergen, a CNN political analyst who served as a White House advisor to four Presidents of both parties, stated just a day or so ago that this has been the worst couple of months of any President in America's history. This is the general consensus among analysts, as well as among the public.

4. He's under criminal investigation for actions that may be found to be treasonous, although RICO (corrupt racketeering) may be the final charges. The President of the United States is under criminal investigation. The guy who said "LOCK HER UP!" about Clinton for responding to some emails that has "(c)" indicating classified material is in the email (not illegal). That guy is under criminal investigation for actions that may be found to be treason or racketeering.

5. Despite his trashing of all things American, and trashing our allies, he has had nothing but glowing praise for our foreign enemy, Russia, and its leader, Putin.

6. Not only does he lie almost constantly (to the point that some are wondering behind the scenes if he has some mental issues), he has chosen an inner circle that contains people who lie, as well. His AG, Sessions, lied under oath to Congress. The highest attorney in the land, the one charged with prosecuting people who lie under oath to Congress, did in fact lie under oath to Congress himself (about Russia). Manafort lied (also tied to Russia). Flynn lied. Kellyanne Conway lies so much that she has been banned from a tv show for failing to be truthful. Does anyone in the White House tell the truth?

Only uneducated Trumpers seem to remain stubbornly in his corner, not seeing what is before their eyes. Possibly blinded by hate and paranoia, which Trump feeds? They don't seem to be for anything, really. They seem to be against things. Against illegal immigration, against Muslims, against gay marriage, against abortion, against all trade deals, against liberals, against poor people, etc.
 
JumpinJack said:
1. The Republicans will make sure Obamacare is not funded and provisions will be cut, ensuring its further failure. They've already put something in the federal budget about it.

2. I don't know how many Presidencies you've witnessed, but anyone with a brain, ears, and vision can see what a historical disaster Trump has been so far for our country. He's alienated and insulted our allies, lies constantly with makes the office of the President uncredible, he's trashed our Justice system, he's trashed our system of government, he's pushed through severe cuts to dismantle the operation of all agencies that provide services to the public (like the EPA, HHS, Dept of Labor), he's pushed through a massive cut to the State Dept (which we rely on for relationships with all the other countries in the world, and is a key to preventing war), he's trashed the free press calling it the enemy of the people, he's tried to push through an EO so lousy and illegal that it was immediately stopped by multiple courts, he's harmed our relationships with other countries, his budget has hit the already-hard-hit areas of the country that have struggled with decreasing jobs, he has turned his back on every promise he made (so far), he has set an angry hateful tone that has violence and hatred running rampant throughout the country, he has accomplished very little, he continues to lie daily, he has falsely accused a prior President of wiretapping him, he failed to negotiate the passage of his signature bill for healthcare, he's spending historical millions of dollars (about $30M so far) on golfing and resort weekend vacations almost every weekend (so that Fox issued an "alert"---that Trump was staying in Washington this weekend!), he has emboldened racists and misogynists, who are getting bolder in their language and violence, including the official white supremacists, he accused our closest ally Great Britain of wiretapping him, and so on.

3. David Gergen, a CNN political analyst who served as a White House advisor to four Presidents of both parties, stated just a day or so ago that this has been the worst couple of months of any President in America's history. This is the general consensus among analysts, as well as among the public.

4. He's under criminal investigation for actions that may be found to be treasonous, although RICO (corrupt racketeering) may be the final charges. The President of the United States is under criminal investigation. The guy who said "LOCK HER UP!" about Clinton for responding to some emails that has "(c)" indicating classified material is in the email (not illegal). That guy is under criminal investigation for actions that may be found to be treason or racketeering.

5. Despite his trashing of all things American, and trashing our allies, he has had nothing but glowing praise for our foreign enemy, Russia, and its leader, Putin.

6. Not only does he lie almost constantly (to the point that some are wondering behind the scenes if he has some mental issues), he has chosen an inner circle that contains people who lie, as well. His AG, Sessions, lied under oath to Congress. The highest attorney in the land, the one charged with prosecuting people who lie under oath to Congress, did in fact lie under oath to Congress himself (about Russia). Manafort lied (also tied to Russia). Flynn lied. Kellyanne Conway lies so much that she has been banned from a tv show for failing to be truthful. Does anyone in the White House tell the truth?

Only uneducated Trumpers seem to remain stubbornly in his corner, not seeing what is before their eyes. Possibly blinded by hate and paranoia, which Trump feeds? They don't seem to be for anything, really. They seem to be against things. Against illegal immigration, against Muslims, against gay marriage, against abortion, against all trade deals, against liberals, against poor people, etc.
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Your version of the truth differs from half the country. Cheers

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Partsguy57 said:
Your version of the truth differs from half the country. Cheers

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No, it doesn't. Trumpers have the affliction that Trump has: divorced from reality-itis.

These are facts and obvious observations. Interesting that you can't seem to state a list of facts that show how successful and truthful and honorable Trump has been. How he has risen the status of America in the world's eyes so far (the respect for America is at an all time low of 25%). How he is popular in the country with the people (his approval rating is in the 30s...the lowest ever recorded for a new President).

He is under criminal investigation for colluding with a foreign enemy, and installing in his cabinet and staff others for whom evidence exists indicating they colluded with a foreign enemy and/or were on the payroll of Russia and Turkey at the time they were put in charge of America's highly sensitive SECURITY agency.

Do you want to preserve American democracy at all? Or do you want America to become a Russian puppet? What exactly is your goal? It boggles the mind that a few people are okay with a President who was in communication with a foreign enemy who was in the process of disrupting our democracy, and then hired foreign agents to be in charge of our government.
 
jbander said:
This group is as wacko as the right has ever been, They are a danger to this country and it's values and has to go, His massive failure Friday is the first major step. Bush murdered 5000 American heroes and the two companies that gained the most out of it , Were Carlyle (Bush the baby killer)and Halliburtan (Cheney the kill anyone for a dollar meathead.)and the right just sees it as a coincident or worse acceptable.
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Yes, because liberals that are constantly interested in changing the values of the country aren't a danger to the countries values. :lamo Why should anyone pay any mind to liberals when they say someone is out to destroy American values?
 
Henrin said:
Yes, because liberals that are constantly interested in changing the values of the country aren't a danger to the countries values. :lamo Why should anyone pay any mind to liberals when they say someone is out to destroy American values?
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Well lets say it is you and me making the opposite points , who would they believe, the Libertarian who is nothing other than a anarchist for the wealthy , or a smart guy like me.
 
jbander said:
Well lets say it is you and me making the opposite points , who would they believe, the Libertarian who is nothing other than a anarchist for the wealthy , or a smart guy like me.
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They would believe me because I'm just that awesome. Who is that guy? I don't know, but he looks and sounds awesome.
 
radcen said:
What do you do for a living?
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Apartments,mini storage,heavy equipment, contract wildland fire fighting, Comercial buildings, and a few other endeavors cheers

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JumpinJack said:
No, it doesn't. Trumpers have the affliction that Trump has: divorced from reality-itis.

These are facts and obvious observations. Interesting that you can't seem to state a list of facts that show how successful and truthful and honorable Trump has been. How he has risen the status of America in the world's eyes so far (the respect for America is at an all time low of 25%). How he is popular in the country with the people (his approval rating is in the 30s...the lowest ever recorded for a new President).

He is under criminal investigation for colluding with a foreign enemy, and installing in his cabinet and staff others for whom evidence exists indicating they colluded with a foreign enemy and/or were on the payroll of Russia and Turkey at the time they were put in charge of America's highly sensitive SECURITY agency.

Do you want to preserve American democracy at all? Or do you want America to become a Russian puppet? What exactly is your goal? It boggles the mind that a few people are okay with a President who was in communication with a foreign enemy who was in the process of disrupting our democracy, and then hired foreign agents to be in charge of our government.
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Correction, your version of the truth and the alternative reality you live in. Half the country does not live in that reality or your version of the truth. Popularity poll? Would these be based on the same as the election? Cheers

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