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Schiff: More Than Circumstantial Evidence

calamity said:
He only uses that "reason" when his side is being accused of stuff. He was all gung ho when it was Hillary being accused of everything under the sun.
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But Hillary actually did things that were illegal, such as the private server and purposely deleting 33,000 emails after being given a court order to turn them over. Just because the FBI and the Obama DOJ refused to prosecute her doesn't change that. Her aides had many pleading of the fifth's and immunity deals where we haven't seen one concerning anything with Trump.
 
calamity said:
The fact that everyone on the right admitted Trump's team was caught talking on "wiretaps" while the US intelligence teams were eavesdropping on foreign spies.
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That's not what he said, but you already know that...
 
calamity said:
I'm not sure who started this "ignore the facts, defend your partisan hero at all costs" thing. I seem to recall it beginning during Iran-Contra, specifically the Oliver North hearings. And, certainly, the Left doubled down on it during Monicagate. But, this Russian collusion thing is a lot more serious than a not so secret blowjob.
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And Hillary's private server and deleting 33,000 emails after being given a court order to turn them over, wasn't serious?
 
Moderate Right said:
But Hillary actually did things that were illegal, such as the private server and purposely deleting 33,000 emails after being given a court order to turn them over. Just because the FBI and the Obama DOJ refused to prosecute her doesn't change that. Her aides had many pleading of the fifth's and immunity deals where we haven't seen one concerning anything with Trump.
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Yet.

BTW: you conveniently ignore that since the GOP is in charge of the investigation, the progress against Trump will be at a snail's pace compared to the railroading of Hillary. In fact, pretty much anything coming out about Trump right now, in this environment, is probably just the tip of the iceberg while everything brought up about Hillary was basically calling a mole hill a mountain.
 
calamity said:
Taking money from Russia and working with them to undermine the democratic candidate in return for altering the US position on defending the Ukraine in the GOP platform would be a pretty big thing. To say the least.

And, that is certainly where much circumstantial evidence points.
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Key words, "Would be".
 
Moderate Right said:
Key words, "Would be".
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There's a lot of solid circumstantial evidence making the connection.

I find it interesting that the Right does not find it odd that the only platform change that Trump's team demanded was that softening of the Ukrainian position. I guess partisan blindness plays a role there. It's not much different than a defense tactic which relies on saying, "Well, what did they really mean by 'is'?"
 
calamity said:
Yet.

BTW: you conveniently ignore that since the GOP is in charge of the investigation, the progress against Trump will be at a snail's pace compared to the railroading of Hillary. In fact, pretty much anything coming out about Trump right now, in this environment, is probably just the tip of the iceberg while everything brought up about Hillary was basically calling a mole hill a mountain.
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Yet also means that there might not ever. Yet does not mean someone is already guilty nor does it mean that the person will ever be found guilty. The left likes to think that yet means there is evidence, it just hasn't been found yet.
 
Lutherf said:
I had a doughnut. Now the doughnut is gone. That's circumstantial evidence that the Russians snuck into my house and stole my doughnut.
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Only if you drank Vodka and passed out then when you woke up and the doughnut was gone, would it really be circumstantial evidence about the Russians. IMHO. Without the Vodka, it could have been me or any of a dozen other DP'ers.
 
Moderate Right said:
Yet also means that there might not ever. Yet does not mean someone is already guilty nor does it mean that the person will ever be found guilty. The left likes to think that yet means there is evidence, it just hasn't been found yet.
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Ironic again. Benghazi, emails, pizzagate...need I go on?
 
calamity said:
There's a lot of solid circumstantial evidence making the connection.

I find it interesting that the Right does not find it odd that the only platform change that Trump's team demanded was that softening of the Ukrainian position. I guess partisan blindness plays a role there. It's not much different than a defense tactic which relies on saying, "Well, what did they really mean by 'is'?"
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Doesn't mean that anything will ever come of it. They had more evidence on OJ.
 
calamity said:
Treasonous Liar in Chief is getting closer and closer to wearing orange.

Lock Trump up.
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He certainly goes out on the branch, there. I wonder, what the "more than circumstantial evidence of collusion" was and especially of the nature of the collusion and to what point collusion was undertaken.

At this point, we only know that a Democrat doesn't like Trump but likes to make insinuations.
 
joG said:
He certainly goes out on the branch, there. I wonder, what the "more than circumstantial evidence of collusion" was and especially of the nature of the collusion and to what point collusion was undertaken.

At this point, we only know that a Democrat doesn't like Trump but likes to make insinuations.
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It's not hard to figure out what they have. The trail is littered with bread crumbs.
 
Moderate Right said:
You can't count the pizza thing. That's being dishonest.
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heh...depends on who's writing the accusations. I still see knuckle heads pushing that story.
 
calamity said:
Treasonous Liar in Chief is getting closer and closer to wearing orange.



Lock Trump up.
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From what I am understanding of what you are saying, you want the Liar in Chief, the O bomb, in an orange jump suit... but then out of left field you mention to lock Trump up? Trump should go to jail for the O bomb??? Sorry, I don't get your reasoning.
 
calamity said:
Ironic again. Benghazi, emails, pizzagate...need I go on?
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Actually, no. It was quite open and proven that Clinton illegally used her email account for classified information and that the President chose not to follow it up. The other two were less realistic and more silly.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
From what I am understanding of what you are saying, you want the Liar in Chief, the O bomb, in an orange jump suit... but then out of left field you mention to lock Trump up? Trump should go to jail for the O bomb??? Sorry, I don't get your reasoning.
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Yeah, hold onto that thought. Everyone needs a fantasy to get through the mundane of the day to day.
 
joG said:
Actually, no. It was quite open and proven that Clinton illegally used her email account for classified information and that the President chose not to follow it up. The other two were less realistic and more silly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah--the Obama protected Hillary meme. I know all about it. Funny that he protected Trump too. Isn't it?
 
calamity said:
It's not hard to figure out what they have. The trail is littered with bread crumbs.
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If Putin is at all adept at intelligence, cloak and dagger he will have certainly made the evidence solid but hard enough to find to be believable. If anything, that would be a major reason that he was pleased to see Trump win.
 
Lutherf said:
I had a doughnut. Now the doughnut is gone. That's circumstantial evidence that the Russians snuck into my house and stole my doughnut.
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You intercepted communications that Russia could help defeat Hillary but would like to see a friendly attitude toward Putin and an unfriendly attitude toward NATO and now Putin is admired
by the Candidate and the GOP platform loses language critical of Russian involvement in Ukraine.

But don't let it stop your partisanship from "trumping" your patriotism.
 
calamity said:
Treasonous Liar in Chief is getting closer and closer to wearing orange.



Lock Trump up.
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I definitely don't think he should be able to make a lifetime SCOTUS appointment while under investigation of the FBI.
 
calamity said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah--the Obama protected Hillary meme. I know all about it. Funny that he protected Trump too. Isn't it?
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Yes, I suppose. but more surprising than funny.

;)
 
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