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FBI Director James Comey: 'No information' Supporting Trump's Wiretapping claim

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(CNN) FBI Director James Comey said Monday he had no information to support claims by President Donald Trump that he was wiretapped by his predecessor, Barack Obama.

"I have no information that supports those tweets," Comey told the House Intelligence Committee, adding that the Justice Department, along with the FBI, had no information to support the allegations.

Comey said that no president could order a wiretapping operation against anyone.
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Of course there isn't any evidence. Ever since Trump began backing down on his claim little by little, and trying to pin the blame of NYT and Fox News for what he tweeted, I had a feeling Trump had nothing.

Thoughts?
 
TheGoverness said:
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Of course there isn't any evidence. Ever since Trump began backing down on his claim little by little, and trying to pin the blame of NYT and Fox News for what he tweeted, I had a feeling Trump had nothing.

Thoughts?
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I hope Trump has the decency to apologize and to humbly admit he was wrong.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that though.
 
For now, we have reports in the NYTimes and other sources that reported wiretapping of Gen Flynn and wiretapping of several of Trump associates with suspicions of colluding with Russians prior to the election and conversations after the elections. It seems unlikely that there has not been wiretapping of Trump since there have been so many reports of wiretapping of Trump associates. The FBI is continuing to go after some Russian connection so it is hard to believe that they would not have wiretapped Trump. Either the FBI is incompetent or many of those NYTimes and other reports are wrong. Something doesn't fit here.
P.S. By wiretapping I am using a more modern definition as surveillance and not the 1950 style attaching a wire to a communication wire. And by Trump stating that Obama wiretapped him I think that it is reasonable to assume that he did not mean that Obama himself actually hooked a wire into a communication wire but rather someone in the Obama administration, of which Obama was responsible for everything that they did or did not do, conducted surveillance on him.
 
Plot twist....

Never saw this coming.

It did make for a great distraction though.
 
Eric7216 said:
For now, we have reports in the NYTimes and other sources that reported wiretapping of Gen Flynn and wiretapping of several of Trump associates with suspicions of colluding with Russians prior to the election and conversations after the elections. It seems unlikely that there has not been wiretapping of Trump since there have been so many reports of wiretapping of Trump associates. The FBI is continuing to go after some Russian connection so it is hard to believe that they would not have wiretapped Trump. Either the FBI is incompetent or many of those NYTimes and other reports are wrong. Something doesn't fit here.
P.S. By wiretapping I am using a more modern definition as surveillance and not the 1950 style attaching a wire to a communication wire. And by Trump stating that Obama wiretapped him I think that it is reasonable to assume that he did not mean that Obama actually hooked a wire into a communication wire but rather someone in the Obama administration, of which Obama was responsible for everything that they did or did not do, conducted surveillance on him.
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Flynn wasnt tapped, the Russian ambassador was. Routine, and Flynn knew it.
 
Grand Mal said:
Flynn wasnt tapped, the Russian ambassador was. Routine, and Flynn knew it.
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Seems like a difference without significance. It the people I talk to are wiretapped then it would seem that at least part of my conversations are being wiretapped.
If you are on tape wouldn't you conclude that you are being wiretapped or would you just shrug it off on the grounds that only someone that you communicated with was wiretapped?
 
TheGoverness said:
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Of course there isn't any evidence. Ever since Trump began backing down on his claim little by little, and trying to pin the blame of NYT and Fox News for what he tweeted, I had a feeling Trump had nothing.
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LOL!

"I have no information that supports those tweets,"
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How can a lack of information prove anything?

What a silly dog and pony show.
 
TheGoverness said:
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Of course there isn't any evidence. Ever since Trump began backing down on his claim little by little, and trying to pin the blame of NYT and Fox News for what he tweeted, I had a feeling Trump had nothing.

Thoughts?
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I wonder how much tax payer money was wasted on this stupid investigation.
 
Eric7216 said:
Seems like a difference without significance. It the people I talk to are wiretapped then it would seem that at least part of my conversations are being wiretapped.
If you are on tape wouldn't you conclude that you are being wiretapped or would you just shrug it off on the grounds that only someone that you communicated with was wiretapped?
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Flynn spent years in national security. He knew before he made the call that he was calling a tapped phone.
What I wonder is who told him to ,make the call. I just dont believe a career Army officer went behind the back of his president on his own.
I think his loyalty was exploited and he was tossed under the bus.
 
Comey didn't say the knew that the 17 other spying agencies weren't eavesdropping on Trump and his campaign. A distinction with a BIG difference.
 
Vox said:
How can a lack of information prove anything?
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It proves that Trump's claim is unsubstantiated, even though he acted like he had evidence for what he was talking about.

What don't you get about that?

What a silly dog and pony show.
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You can thank Trump for that.
 
LOL!

A LACK of information means he has no information.

How could that PROVE ANYTHING???

:mrgreen:
 
I have no information about whether or not space aliens captured and are holding Elvis prisoner.

How does that prove that they did or didn't do that.

:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Can't you see that this is all high political theater.........signifying NOTHING???

:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
americanwoman said:
I hope Trump has the decency to apologize and to humbly admit he was wrong.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that though.
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He will NOT do so as the man has no basic decency.

If it is illegal to leak information to the public, what is it when the President leaks FALSE information accusing another president of committing a crime?

At the very least it should be grounds for impeachment.
 
Grand Mal said:
Flynn spent years in national security. He knew before he made the call that he was calling a tapped phone.
What I wonder is who told him to ,make the call. I just dont believe a career Army officer went behind the back of his president on his own.
I think his loyalty was exploited and he was tossed under the bus.
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Good question.
 
Don't expect an Apology or any resemblance of Class going from Trump or his Administration.
 
Vox said:
LOL!

A LACK of information means he has no information.

How could that PROVE ANYTHING???

:mrgreen:
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That's why I would Love to see an "independent" investigation ... don't you? :mrgreen:
 
Eric7216 said:
Seems like a difference without significance.
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Try again.

If the FBI was running surveillance on Flynn, they'd track every call, email, text, Snapchat etc they could get their hands on.

So unless Flynn cc'ed Kislyak on every single communication, there is a HUGE difference between "tapping Kislyak and catching Flynn on tape when he called Kislyak," and "running surveillance on Flynn."

Not that complicated.


If you are on tape wouldn't you conclude that you are being wiretapped or would you just shrug it off on the grounds that only someone that you communicated with was wiretapped?
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If I was calling the direct phone of the Russian ambassador, and it got caught on tape, I'd know that it wasn't because my lines were being tapped.

I might add, Flynn was selected as National Security Advisor. If he didn't know that the Russian ambassador was the target of surveillance, then he should never have been selected for the job.
 
Eric7216 said:
Seems like a difference without significance. It the people I talk to are wiretapped then it would seem that at least part of my conversations are being wiretapped.
If you are on tape wouldn't you conclude that you are being wiretapped or would you just shrug it off on the grounds that only someone that you communicated with was wiretapped?
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There is definitely a significance to the difference. In one case you are the target and the other case you are not. In one case there is intent to surveil you and the other there is not. When we monitor the Russian Ambassador's calls we have no idea who will call. There was nothing wrong in how our intelligence obtained that call. Now, how they handled it afterward is a different matter.
 
TheGoverness said:
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Of course there isn't any evidence. Ever since Trump began backing down on his claim little by little, and trying to pin the blame of NYT and Fox News for what he tweeted, I had a feeling Trump had nothing.

Thoughts?
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I just reread the tweets and would not say that they read as much like a lie as they do like misinformation.
 
TheGoverness said:
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Of course there isn't any evidence. Ever since Trump began backing down on his claim little by little, and trying to pin the blame of NYT and Fox News for what he tweeted, I had a feeling Trump had nothing.

Thoughts?
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Trump should admit he screwed up, apologize to Obama, and apologize to the American people. And then, close his Twitter account.
 
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