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Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate[W:2704]

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... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Who cares? That doesn't change the facts of reality.

Trump's presidency is not illegitimate. He played by the rules of the game and came out with a win. The fact that people don't like the fact that he won doesn't somehow make his win illegitimate. I'm not saying you have to like Trump or anything (I certainly don't), but his presidency is most definitely legitimate.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Who cares? That doesn't change the facts of reality.

Trump's presidency is not illegitimate. He played by the rules of the game and came out with a win. The fact that people don't like the fact that he won doesn't somehow make his win illegitimate. I'm not saying you have to like Trump or anything (I certainly don't), but his presidency is most definitely legitimate.



Now that's Funny ... "Facts" "Reality" :lamo


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There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Those young persons need refresher courses in democratic process. If they had gone and actually voted, they would have had a say. Saying he is illegitimate now only makes them look like political idiots. And complaining loudly shows that one has fallen prey to populist screeching. Maybe they will remember next time that not voting is not only abdicating one's say. It is voting for the one others vote into office.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Illegitimate is a misnomer. Asshole fits much better.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Now that's Funny ... "Facts" "Reality" :lamo


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There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.

Where Trump is right is that the Democrats ran a terrible campaign. It was a no-brainer to win and they lost.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Key concept = election results matter more than polling subsets of likely non-voters. Not liking election results is fine but not respecting them is anarchy. Perhaps a good poll question would be to ask these "enlightened" folks to name their two US Senators and one House representative and to include that result as well. ;)
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Who cares? That doesn't change the facts of reality.

Trump's presidency is not illegitimate. He played by the rules of the game and came out with a win. The fact that people don't like the fact that he won doesn't somehow make his win illegitimate. I'm not saying you have to like Trump or anything (I certainly don't), but his presidency is most definitely legitimate.

Winning by the rules makes him LEGAL. It does not make him LEGITIMATE which is a personal judgment made in the mind of an American citizen based on more than simple legality.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Where Trump is right is that the Democrats ran a terrible campaign. It was a no-brainer to win and they lost.

Just think of all the GOP Candidates who lost to Trump ...

Oops ... I bet you tried to forget about that, sorry.
 
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Just think of all the GOP Candidates who lost to Trump ...

Oops ... I bet you tried to forget about that, sorry.

Trump's hate on the stump struck a chord with the Right. That is for sure.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Now that's Funny ... "Facts" "Reality" :lamo


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There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.

Who hacked the voting machines?
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Key concept = election results matter more than polling subsets of likely non-voters. Not liking election results is fine but not respecting them is anarchy. Perhaps a good poll question would be to ask these "enlightened" folks to name their two US Senators and one House representative and to include that result as well. ;)

That's odd, I was saying the same thing from 2009 through 2017

So excuse me if I'm not sympathetic.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Key concept = election results matter more than polling subsets of likely non-voters. Not liking election results is fine but not respecting them is anarchy. Perhaps a good poll question would be to ask these "enlightened" folks to name their two US Senators and one House representative and to include that result as well. ;)

Of course you are 100% correct that election results matter more than polling - especially polling of smaller groups.

However, when a majority of young people view the president as ILLEGITIMATE and we all know it is that group which is going to be significant in elections for the next thirty or forty years, it is NOT a good omen for the Republicans. I noticed in the polling numbers that while Whites gave a slight majority to the LEGITIMATE side of the argument, they still had a sizable number in the 40's voting for illegitimate. And given the fact that minorities view Trump as illegitimate by large majorities and demographics being what we all know they are, this is a very bad omen for the GOP and Trump reelection effort.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Just think of all the GOP Candidates who lost to Trump ...

Oops ... I bet you tried to forget about that, sorry.

It is one thing to lose in the Primaries. But to lose in the election with a popular majority of the votes and only 25 percent voting for your opponent? That is really unprofessional. ;)
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

The Fact is, he is President ...

But I don't respect him as a person, and it has nothing to do with Politics or his Presidency.

I don't respect the individual.

Trump had "LIED" about President Obama for more than 8 years.

That's right ... he's a LIAR ...

He PUBLICLY LIED about President Obama birth place.

Then after the First Family was gracious enough to help in his transition, he LIED again about being Wire-Tapped

... not once did he apologize.

He's Lying Sack of Crap who is President. Congratulations
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

The Fact is, he is President ...

But I don't respect him as a person, and it has nothing to do with Politics or his Presidency.

I don't respect the individual.

Trump had "LIED" about President Obama for more than 8 years.

That's right ... he's a LIAR ...

He PUBLICLY LIED about President Obama birth place.

Then after the First Family was gracious enough to help in his transition, he LIED again about being Wire-Tapped

... not once did he apologize.

He's Lying Sack of Crap who is President. Congratulations

So? Plenty of us never respected Obama and yet he was president for eight years.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

That's odd, I was saying the same thing from 2009 through 2017

So excuse me if I'm not sympathetic.

Then why not stick to those principles. ;)

Or do you really mean that you only consider elected demorats "legitimate"?
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

It is one thing to lose in the Primaries. But to lose in the election with a popular majority of the votes and only 25 percent voting for your opponent? That is really unprofessional. ;)

I bet Trump Supporters are really "impressed" with these numbers? :lamo

2008
Electoral vote 365 173
Contests won 28 + DC + NE-02 22
Popular vote 69,498,516 59,948,323
Percentage 52.9% 45.7%

2012
Electoral vote 332 206
States carried 26 + DC 24
Popular vote 65,915,795 60,933,504
Percentage 51.1% 47.2%
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Then why not stick to those principles. ;)

Or do you really mean that you only consider elected demorats "legitimate"?

Nope, I consider what goes around, come around ...

... and you get the respect you gave. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Of course you are 100% correct that election results matter more than polling - especially polling of smaller groups.

However, when a majority of young people view the president as ILLEGITIMATE and we all know it is that group which is going to be significant in elections for the next thirty or forty years, it is NOT a good omen for the Republicans. I noticed in the polling numbers that while Whites gave a slight majority to the LEGITIMATE side of the argument, they still had a sizable number in the 40's voting for illegitimate. And given the fact that minorities view Trump as illegitimate by large majorities and demographics being what we all know they are, this is a very bad omen for the GOP and Trump reelection effort.

That theory fails to explain why Trump won and why Hillary lost the general. Trump may not even run for re-election and the GOP has majorities in congress and in most state governments - how are demographics going to let (make?) Hillary win next time? The demorats are very likely going to have to admit that (s?)electing Hillary in their primary was a bad idea. Let's remember that the 2016 POTUS contest was between The Donald and Hillary - not some generic republicant and some generic demorat.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Who cares? That doesn't change the facts of reality.

Trump's presidency is not illegitimate. He played by the rules of the game and came out with a win. The fact that people don't like the fact that he won doesn't somehow make his win illegitimate. I'm not saying you have to like Trump or anything (I certainly don't), but his presidency is most definitely legitimate.

Yeah, I mean it totally depends on what you mean by "legitimate." Did he win the presidency? Yes, if all we mean by "legitimate" is that he won the presidency within the rules of the game (the electoral college), then yeah, I agree it's obvious that he's "legitimate."

If we mean something other than that, however, I can certainly see my notion of his "legitimacy" changing quite quickly. Like, "Based on the merits of what Trump knows about the world, does he deserve to be president?" which is another notion of legitimacy, then I would say "Not a chance."
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

The Fact is, he is President ...

But I don't respect him as a person, and it has nothing to do with Politics or his Presidency.

I don't respect the individual.

Trump had "LIED" about President Obama for more than 8 years.

That's right ... he's a LIAR ...

He PUBLICLY LIED about President Obama birth place.

Then after the First Family was gracious enough to help in his transition, he LIED again about being Wire-Tapped

... not once did he apologize.

He's Lying Sack of Crap who is President. Congratulations

And fact, there's lots of butt-hurt out there and in here.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics
I would suggest that a majority of young people are idealistic and ignorant of the actual process. The real world hasn't beat them down, yet. This has always been the case, IMO, not just now or recent.
 
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