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Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate[W:2704]

Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Well how would you think if to step outside the position you're required to hold means you will be shunned and publically destroyed?

Fascism depends on gullible people with little wisdom and life experience. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people with values that are still forming would go along with the group think that has been created for them.

I wonder if they even know what "illegitimate President" means?

Seems to me, all they are proving is the effect of the poor education they have received.
 
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Now that's Funny ... "Facts" "Reality" :lamo


There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.

correct reality and facts. the Russians didn't hack the election this was proven.
Hillary according to an actual study ran one of the worst campaigns in modern history.

yet as usual you still didn't address her argument that the fact is his presidency is legitimate.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

They can if they want, but he's not illegitimate. He won the Electoral College, he wont the Presidency, he is legitimately, for better or for worse, our President.
 
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Yeah, I mean it totally depends on what you mean by "legitimate." Did he win the presidency? Yes, if all we mean by "legitimate" is that he won the presidency within the rules of the game (the electoral college), then yeah, I agree it's obvious that he's "legitimate."

If we mean something other than that, however, I can certainly see my notion of his "legitimacy" changing quite quickly. Like, "Based on the merits of what Trump knows about the world, does he deserve to be president?" which is another notion of legitimacy, then I would say "Not a chance."

there is only 1 way to be president.
he won that way.

therefore whether you like him or not he is the legitimate president of the US.
 
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That theory fails to explain why Trump won and why Hillary lost the general. Trump may not even run for re-election and the GOP has majorities in congress and in most state governments - how are demographics going to let (make?) Hillary win next time? The demorats are very likely going to have to admit that (s?)electing Hillary in their primary was a bad idea. Let's remember that the 2016 POTUS contest was between The Donald and Hillary - not some generic republicant and some generic demorat.

Honestly I don't think he will run again in 4 years.
These 4 years will just wear him out and he won't want anything to do with it after that.
 
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There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.

I don't know why Democrats want to make this case. As far as the issue of having thumbs on the scale, the thumbs pressed far harder against Bernie during the primary than they did against Hillary in the general. I mean, seriously, by this logic, if Trump is not the legitimate US president, then clearly Hillary was not the legitimate Democratic nominee. I guess I'm okay with that, but I'm 100% sure that the majority Democrats aren't.

I hate Trump as much as the next person, I'm concerned over his business ties to Russia and alleged political ties to Russia, but this whole business of non-stop discussion of Russia, Russia, Russia --particularly with the odious assertions that this is "why" Trump won the election-- really isn't helping Democrats in the long run. Trump is going to bungle himself into a hole sooner or later, and the Democrats should make some effort at least attempt to not look like wildly hypocritical children by the time that happens.
 
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there is only 1 way to be president.
he won that way.

therefore whether you like him or not he is the legitimate president of the US.

Thanks for neither clarifying nor expounding upon nor indeed even correcting anything I said.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Not at all curious. The majority of youth today and for at least the last 50 years or so have been educated by progressive neo-communist public school teachers owned and conducted by the far left Teacher's Union. The Yonguns are politically illiterate and the blacks are highly racist/prejudice. The vast majority can't tell you who the Vise President is, or who their State and local representatives are. All they know is the anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-Constitution hatred and garbage taught them by their leftist brainwashers who babysit them during most week days.
 
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I don't know why Democrats want to make this case. As far as the issue of having thumbs on the scale, the thumbs pressed far harder against Bernie during the primary than they did against Hillary in the general. I mean, seriously, by this logic, if Trump is not the legitimate US president, then clearly Hillary was not the legitimate Democratic nominee. I guess I'm okay with that, but I'm 100% sure that the majority Democrats aren't.

I hate Trump as much as the next person, I'm concerned over his business ties to Russia and alleged political ties to Russia, but this whole business of non-stop discussion of Russia, Russia, Russia --particularly with the odious assertions that this is "why" Trump won the election-- really isn't helping Democrats in the long run. Trump is going to bungle himself into a hole sooner or later, and the Democrats should make some effort at least attempt to not look like wildly hypocritical children by the time that happens.

Exactly - the Trump/Russia mantra (smokescreen?), is not the "root cause" of the demorats being the minority party in the Senate, House and in most state governments. When your sales staff is still touting the very unpopular PPACA as a wonderful thing it is hard to blame the Russians for the people not swallowing your sales pitch.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Now that's Funny ... "Facts" "Reality" :lamo


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There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.

Well, that means YOU are exactly like THEM.

What do you win?
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Then a majority of young Americans are morons then ?

Appparently they are if they believe Trumps Presidency is illegitimate, or worse are gullible enough to have bought into the Russian collusion narrative.
 
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yes, we know you hate trump

No. I hate liver. Trump is like malaria. You don't really hate it. You just try to avoid or inoculate yourself from the disease.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

Sweet little Snowflakes who always got a medal.......even for last place.

Raised by helicopter parents and secure in the knowledge they they were "special."

Educated in a failing school system by failing teachers who pushed multiculturalism.

Now a strange thing has happened to them.......they didn't get what they wanted!

Oh......mommy.......we don't like this!

Mommy: "Yes, it's WRONG!!!"

America: "Get over it. You make me sick."

:usflag2:
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Those young persons need refresher courses in democratic process. If they had gone and actually voted, they would have had a say. Saying he is illegitimate now only makes them look like political idiots. And complaining loudly shows that one has fallen prey to populist screeching. Maybe they will remember next time that not voting is not only abdicating one's say. It is voting for the one others vote into office.

They did vote.

And they lost.

Trouble is.......they were raised by adults who ensured that even losers got a medal......just like the winners.

How are they supposed to understand this election?

Finally they're going to have to grow up.

:usflag2:
 
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more negativity.

well, the guy is a disease that has infected the minds of at least 37% of the country.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics

I think a more accurate title would be

[h=1]Majority of Young Americans, In This One Poll, View Trump as Illegitimate[/URL][/h]
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

... A majority of young adults — 57 percent — see Trump's presidency as illegitimate, including about three-quarters of blacks and large majorities of Latinos and Asians, the GenForward poll found.

GenForward is a poll of adults age 18 to 30 conducted by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

A slim majority of young whites in the poll, 53 percent, consider Trump a legitimate president, but even among that group 55 percent disapprove of the job he's doing, according to the survey ...

Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate President: Poll - NBC News

Keyword = Demographics




Well when you shoot propaganda up generation #snowflake's ass, you get **** like this where they say one who won by the democratic process is "illegitimate".
 
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Winning by the rules makes him LEGAL. It does not make him LEGITIMATE which is a personal judgment made in the mind of an American citizen based on more than simple legality.

a personal judgment made in the mind of an American citizen based on more than simple legality = irrelevant
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Now that's Funny ... "Facts" "Reality" :lamo


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There's no doubt President Obama was born in America, but that didn't stop people from thinking he was illegitimate.

Funny thing, what goes around, comes around.

Where's the proof that Russia hacked into our election? I'd like to see it.
 
Re: Majority of Young Americans View Trump as Illegitimate

Winning by the rules makes him LEGAL. It does not make him LEGITIMATE which is a personal judgment made in the mind of an American citizen based on more than simple legality.


It actually does make him legitimate. The definition of legitimate is "conforming to the law or to rules". That's what he did, he beat Clinton in the electoral college, and he got the win, therefore making his presidency legitimate.

I don't care what people's "personal judgements" are.
 
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a personal judgment made in the mind of an American citizen based on more than simple legality = irrelevant

You have just stated that opinion of the American people are irrelevant when they judge the legitimacy of their own government or persons in that government.

And in a democratic republic such as ours where people have the right to vote, such a claim is dead wrong.
 
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It actually does make him legitimate. The definition of legitimate is "conforming to the law or to rules". That's what he did, he beat Clinton in the electoral college, and he got the win, therefore making his presidency legitimate.

I don't care what people's "personal judgements" are.

That is but one definition.

Definition of legitimate from Merrian-Webster dictionary
1
a : lawfully begotten; specifically : born in wedlock
b : having full filial rights and obligations by birth a legitimate child
2
: being exactly as purposed : neither spurious nor false a legitimate grievance a legitimate practitioner
3
a : accordant with law or with established legal forms and requirements a legitimate government
b : ruling by or based on the strict principle of hereditary right a legitimate king
4
: conforming to recognized principles or accepted rules and standards a legitimate advertising expenditure a legitimate inference

5
: relating to plays acted by professional actors but not including revues, burlesque, or some forms of musical comedy the legitimate theater

I have bolded and enlarged the definition which applies here and can well be argued that one can be LEGAL but ILLEGITIMATE at the same time if the legal mechanism also at the same time failed to live up to standards and rules associated and essential and important to the very process.
 
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It actually does make him legitimate. The definition of legitimate is "conforming to the law or to rules". That's what he did, he beat Clinton in the electoral college, and he got the win, therefore making his presidency legitimate.

I don't care what people's "personal judgements" are.

This!!! "Illegitimate" = sour grapes. Get over it and make your party more attractive for next time.
 
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