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Ireland's Prime Minister Gives Trump A Lesson On The True Meaning Of America

Fishking said:
Nah...no need. His mom was a citizen so place of birth is irrelevant. I never understood that whole deal because even say he was born in Kenya, that wouldn't matter in regards to his citizenship status.

Unfortunately, I've never been to Hawaii. Hope you have a good time. I probably would only like it for a couple of weeks and start feeling claustrophobic due to it being so enclosed.
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My first time also ...

Going to Maui then Kawaii
 
fmw said:
That's a silly comment. The Irish that immigrated did so legally. The immigration issue is about illegal aliens.
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Not all Irish came legally ... don't kid yourself
 
fmw said:
That's a silly comment. The Irish that immigrated did so legally. The immigration issue is about illegal aliens.
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Well, that's not the only issue. We're also talking about restricting legal immigration from certain countries.
 
Cigar said:
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Irish PM shames Trump with stirring tribute to immigrants, as the president stands right next to him


Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny used his time spent at the White House on St. Patrick’s Day to issue a subtle rebuke to President Donald Trump’s immigration policies.

Speaking at the White House with Trump standing right next to him, Kenny relayed the long history of Irish immigrants who came to America and thrived there, despite being resented and hated by many.

“It’s fitting that we gather here each year to celebrate St. Patrick and his legacy,” Kenny said. “He, too, was an immigrant. And even though he is, of course, the patron saint of Ireland, for many people around the globe, he is also the symbol of — indeed, the patron of — immigrants.”

Kenny went on to explain that in past centuries, the Irish were “the retched refuse on the teeming shore,” who nonetheless “believed in the shelter of America, in the compassion of America, in the opportunity of America.”

https://twitter.com/malonebarry/status/842712911076343809

:lol:
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When did Trump say he has a problem with immigrants?
 
Fishking said:
Yeah...that was great for our country when it was different times and an entirely different environment. There was a time when literally the only thing we needed was warm bodies to fill the vast tracks of open land that was undeveloped. There was a time when we didn't have a huge expansive government with expansive social safety net programs. People were literally on there own, to live and die.
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We still have that in a lot of Montana.
 
Mason66 said:
We still have that in a lot of Montana.
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And you're going to say to immigrants coming in and send them to Montana, give them a tract of land, and tell them to work the land themselves and be reliant on themselves to basically live or die? Because if we are going to make comparisons between different times then let's put it in the same setting.
 
Fishking said:
And you're going to say to immigrants coming in and send them to Montana, give them a tract of land, and tell them to work the land themselves and be reliant on themselves to basically live or die? Because if we are going to make comparisons between different times then let's put it in the same setting.
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That would be interesting to watch.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Another international politician bandwagonning the general dislike of Trump, that other politicians have displayed.
Knock me over with a feather.

He's an opportunist, nothing more.
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It really is telling that one can only interpret such a positive message as being anti-Trump.
 
Fishking said:
Well, that's not the only issue. We're also talking about restricting legal immigration from certain countries.
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The Irish didn't come to spread their ideas by intimidation and murder. One would not suspect an Irish immigrant of representing danger. The six countries are inimical to the U.S. provide no way to identify people and have a lot of terrorism within their borders. A silly comparison.
 
fmw said:
The Irish didn't come to spread their ideas by intimidation and murder. One would not suspect an Irish immigrant of representing danger. The six countries are inimical to the U.S. provide no way to identify people and have a lot of terrorism within their borders. A silly comparison.
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I won't delve into that too much here but I'm not necessarily in full disagreement. I'm just pointing out that there is more going on than just illegal immigration.
 
Fishking said:
Not only was I honest, I'm 100% correct. I guess some people don't know the definition to basic words.
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With all due respect. No you weren't. You're just showing your Republican partisanship.

I understand the twisting of some words that some people can use, and do use.. And 'immigrant' can be 1 of those words. But in the real world, and being honest about what went on, slaves were in no way 'immigrants'.

Have a nice day..
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
No you weren't. You're just showing your Republican partisanship.

I understand the twisting of some words that some people can use, and do use.. And 'immigrant' can be 1 of those words. But in the real world, and being honest about what went on, slaves were in no way 'immigrants'.

Have a nice day..
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In the real world.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant

Definition of immigrant

: one that immigrates: such asa : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
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Nothing in the definition has to include voluntary or exclude against their will.
 
Fishking said:
In the real world.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant



Nothing in the definition has to include voluntary or exclude against their will.
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Because I'm pretty sure even Webster didn't think he'd have to explain in the definition of 'Immigrant' that that person wasn't immigrating if they were being brought to another country in chains. That's called slavery. A word Carson, nor you seem to want to use. That speaks volumes, BTW.

Your game playing with words because of your politics means little to me.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Because I'm pretty sure even Webster didn't think he'd have to explain in the definition of 'Immigrant' that that person wasn't immigrating if they were being brought to another country in chains. That's called slavery. A word Carson, nor you seem to want to use. That speaks volumes, BTW.

Your game playing with words because of your politics means little to me.
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Hey...it was slaves in the bottom of slave ships and the people running it were practicing slavery. Huh...that wasn't hard at all, a bit redundant though. That aside, there is no "Webster having to explain it". It means what it means. Slavery is the practice of basically owning people as property. That is different than someone permanently living in a new region, which is immigration.

I know this is hard for people to understand because they aren't used to words being used in an uncommon manner. That doesn't change the reality of it, though.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Another international politician bandwagonning the general dislike of Trump, that other politicians have displayed.
Knock me over with a feather.

He's an opportunist, nothing more.
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Do you notice how Catholics are ridiculed on here until one of millions makes some stupid comment that the liberals agree with?
 
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