USA Today: 44% Hate Trump, 50% Hate the Mainstream Media

from: L. Brent Bozell: The Media Hides Its Own Disapproval Rating


L. BRENT BOZELL And TIM GRAHAM 3/15/2017

The latest poll by USA Today and Suffolk University carried some eye-opening numbers about public disapproval of the media's aggressive attempts to run the country. It found that President Trump has a 47% approval rating and that 44% disapprove of him.

That's not surprising. The media talk about his unpopularity all the time.

But here's what they don't talk about: their own numbers. Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of their job performance. A whopping 50% have an unfavorable opinion.

Look at the numbers by party identification. Republican unfavorable opinion of the media? It's 78%. Only 10% have a favorable opinion. The Democrats are the opposite: Sixty-nine percent hold a favorable view, and 19% hold an unfavorable view...

Two entirely different purposes. Trump's job which he did not earn is to govern, to look out for 320 million. The media's job is ratings, to look out for themselves. What the media has proven is they're willing to create the divide, so that half hate them while the other half tune in eagerly. That's fine because it effects no one unless you let it. It's not fine at all when a president does it however, and there's been no president more intentionally divisive, i would argue in history, than Trump

expat_panama said:

from: L. Brent Bozell: The Media Hides Its Own Disapproval Rating


L. BRENT BOZELL And TIM GRAHAM 3/15/2017

The latest poll by USA Today and Suffolk University carried some eye-opening numbers about public disapproval of the media's aggressive attempts to run the country. It found that President Trump has a 47% approval rating and that 44% disapprove of him.

That's not surprising. The media talk about his unpopularity all the time.

But here's what they don't talk about: their own numbers. Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of their job performance. A whopping 50% have an unfavorable opinion.

Look at the numbers by party identification. Republican unfavorable opinion of the media? It's 78%. Only 10% have a favorable opinion. The Democrats are the opposite: Sixty-nine percent hold a favorable view, and 19% hold an unfavorable view...

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I don't see the word HATE in anything other than your OP. Very misleading.

I'm curious how these polls take place. Not disputing the numbers or anything, but has anyone here ever been asked these questions by pollsters? If so, how do you get on their "list"? I have never been asked my opinion on anything by any polls. Has anyone here?

I stopped paying attention to polls when they predicted that Hillary would become POTUS by a landslide.

How can you "hate" something or someone that you don't even know?

I missed the word "hate" in the questions and responses, too.

chromium said:

Two entirely different purposes. Trump's job which he did not earn is to govern, to look out for 320 million. The media's job is ratings, to look out for themselves. What the media has proven is they're willing to create the divide, so that half hate them while the other half tune in eagerly. That's fine because it effects no one unless you let it. It's not fine at all when a president does it however, and there's been no president more intentionally divisive, i would argue in history, than Trump

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Point of order: He DID "earn" the job, just like every President (aside from Ford) before him, by running for office and being Constitutionally elected.

You don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with his actions, but you do have to face facts. He is the duly elected President of the United States.

Captain Adverse said:

Point of order: He DID "earn" the job, just like every President (aside from Ford) before him, by running for office and being Constitutionally elected.

You don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with his actions, but you do have to face facts. He is the duly elected President of the United States.

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Not according to his own standards -

“He [Obama] lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!” (Nov. 6)

“The phoney [sic] electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!” (Nov. 6)

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. More votes equals a loss…revolution! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012



So yes, we should have a revolution and overthrow the usurper indeed. God knows the tantrum he would've thrown if the outcome were the opposite in his own election. Too bad, i agree with his response in 2012 and he could have done the dignified thing and conceded to Hillary. See, the constitution has nothing to do with "earning" anything

Instead, in his 2016 when he benefitted he called it "genius" So he wins an upside down pinocchio

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-electoral-college-from-disaster-to-genius/


So whose side do you agree with, the adamant 2012 Trump or the 2016 Trump who directly contradicted 2012 when he stood to gain from the system?

As relates to this thread, i happen to think whatever lies the media concocts could never measure up to how low Trump sunk here, even before taking office. And that's not even going into the "Hey's a Kenyan!" and "everyone will be covered and it will be much cheaper" debacles. Because again, a politician's lies are much more harmful and unforgiveable than the for-profit media

holbritter said:

I don't see the word HATE in anything other than your OP. Very misleading.

I'm curious how these polls take place. Not disputing the numbers or anything, but has anyone here ever been asked these questions by pollsters? If so, how do you get on their "list"? I have never been asked my opinion on anything by any polls. Has anyone here?

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I got a phone call from a pollster before the election. He said he was taking a survey of ten questions about my politics. Sure, I said. He asked me who I was voting for. I said Donald Trump. He hung up on me. They didn't want responses from Trump fans. There are many ways in which pollsters can manipulate their results.

chromium said:

Not according to his own standards -

“He [Obama] lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!” (Nov. 6)

“The phoney [sic] electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!” (Nov. 6)

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. More votes equals a loss…revolution! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012


So yes, we should have a revolution and overthrow the usurper indeed. God knows the tantrum he would've thrown if the outcome were the opposite and Hillary won the EC while losing the PV in his own election

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:doh

He was a common citizen exercising his right to free speech...and a DEMOCRAT back then to boot.

We can (and other's have in this Forum) cite nasty comments both Hillary and Obama made about each other during their campaign for the Democratic nomination back then too.

You too are free to say and "feel" whatever you wish. My pointing out a fact does not detract from that right, it only highlights a clear error in your position. :coffeepap:

Captain Adverse said:

:doh

He was a common citizen exercising his right to free speech...and a DEMOCRAT back then too.

We can (and other's have in this Forum) cite nasty comments both Hillary and Obama made about each other during their campaign for the Democratic nomination back then also.

You too are free to say and "feel" whatever you wish. My pointing out a fact does not detract from that right, it only highlights a clear error in your position. :coffeepap:

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In taking office via the path he publicly condemned as illegitimate, he is the world's biggest self serving hypocrite. Would Hillary rig elections? Absolutely and she did so with the superdelegates. But that in no way excuses what Trump has done, and only a complete hack could insist otherwise

I like to think we can do better than this and better than whining about the media, but apparently you want to settle for self serving hypocrite

MaggieD said:

I got a phone call from a pollster before the election. He said he was taking a survey of ten questions about my politics. Sure, I said. He asked me who I was voting for. I said Donald Trump. He hung up on me. They didn't want responses from Trump fans. There are many ways in which pollsters can manipulate their results.

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Which is something I learned in Statistics back in college.

Anything the pollster wishes to demonstrate can be shown by a poll simply through methods of manipulating the questions, the source pool, or both.

expat_panama said:

from: L. Brent Bozell: The Media Hides Its Own Disapproval Rating


L. BRENT BOZELL And TIM GRAHAM 3/15/2017

The latest poll by USA Today and Suffolk University carried some eye-opening numbers about public disapproval of the media's aggressive attempts to run the country. It found that President Trump has a 47% approval rating and that 44% disapprove of him.

That's not surprising. The media talk about his unpopularity all the time.

But here's what they don't talk about: their own numbers. Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of their job performance. A whopping 50% have an unfavorable opinion.

Look at the numbers by party identification. Republican unfavorable opinion of the media? It's 78%. Only 10% have a favorable opinion. The Democrats are the opposite: Sixty-nine percent hold a favorable view, and 19% hold an unfavorable view...

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I'm not surprised. Outside of FoxNews, it seems to me that the media and the Democrats are out to destroy Trump by any and all means available. The media has taken sides in politics, the media no long just reports the news or as Sergeant Friday would say, "Just the facts." They put their own spin on it. Other polls have shown the same partisan breakdown. We now have news channels that cater to the two major parties as if they are part of the RNC and DNC. Fox for the RNC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, even the over the air networks seem to be an arm of the DNC.

Recent polls on this show that Trump edges the media out in truthfulness 49-48% in an Emerson poll, Trust goes to Trump over the media 45-42 in a FoxNews Poll.

Gallup broke trust in the media down, overall, all Americans trust in the media is at 32% which not surprisingly shows 51% of Democrats trusting the media and only 14% of Republicans do so. But more importantly, independents, those who do not affiliate or identify with either political party, their trust in the media to accurately report the news is at 30%.

This all comes about from almost every news organization choosing sides in politics. To show how trust in the media has fallen, it was at 50% in 2005, at 55% in 1999 and 72% in 1976. As the media has taken sides more and more, switching from a more covert siding to an down right overt siding with one party over the other, the trust in the media has slowly eroded. It's the media's own fault.

expat_panama said:

from: L. Brent Bozell: The Media Hides Its Own Disapproval Rating


L. BRENT BOZELL And TIM GRAHAM 3/15/2017

The latest poll by USA Today and Suffolk University carried some eye-opening numbers about public disapproval of the media's aggressive attempts to run the country. It found that President Trump has a 47% approval rating and that 44% disapprove of him.

That's not surprising. The media talk about his unpopularity all the time.

But here's what they don't talk about: their own numbers. Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of their job performance. A whopping 50% have an unfavorable opinion.

Look at the numbers by party identification. Republican unfavorable opinion of the media? It's 78%. Only 10% have a favorable opinion. The Democrats are the opposite: Sixty-nine percent hold a favorable view, and 19% hold an unfavorable view...

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Trouble is defining "Mainstream Media." If we are talking about the rags that cater to Kardashian and Jenner, sure. No one likes that crap. If we are talking NYT feature pieces, I suspect only the politically biased hate those.

MaggieD said:

I got a phone call from a pollster before the election. He said he was taking a survey of ten questions about my politics. Sure, I said. He asked me who I was voting for. I said Donald Trump. He hung up on me. They didn't want responses from Trump fans. There are many ways in which pollsters can manipulate their results.

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They conduct most of their polls in places like Boston, New York, and San Francisco. That way even when they poll Republicans they get Republicans who lean more liberal. It's all very predictable. I worked for ORC over a summer once. Very revealing.

MaggieD said:

I got a phone call from a pollster before the election. He said he was taking a survey of ten questions about my politics. Sure, I said. He asked me who I was voting for. I said Donald Trump. He hung up on me. They didn't want responses from Trump fans. There are many ways in which pollsters can manipulate their results.

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Even with local polls I don't get any calls. I guess that's better than being hung up on!

Captain Adverse said:

:doh

He was a common citizen exercising his right to free speech...and a DEMOCRAT back then to boot.

We can (and other's have in this Forum) cite nasty comments both Hillary and Obama made about each other during their campaign for the Democratic nomination back then too.

You too are free to say and "feel" whatever you wish. My pointing out a fact does not detract from that right, it only highlights a clear error in your position. :coffeepap:

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Trump was a registered Republican in 2012 who voted for Romney.