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How Islamic Terrorists Think

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James Mitchell, a person involved in the interrogation of high value radical Muslim terrorists like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has a book out "Enhanced Interrogation" and sat for an interview with Mark Steyn. A few of the points he raised:

Please keep in mind that this is a radical Muslim ideology and may rightly be seen as a distorted and false version of Islam.

Americans assume that if radical Muslims come to understand us and learn that our intentions are good that there will be peace. Exactly the opposite is true. The terrorists feel that they are called by Allah to purge the world of all infidels and establish a global caliphate. The more they know of us the easier it is for them to kill us.

Soon after 9-11 the CIA learned that Osama Bin Laden was seeking nuclear technology from the Pakistanis. When he was told that obtaining the fissionable material would be the hardest part he said, "What if I already have it?" This set off a panic for intelligence in the US because they knew that a nuclear attack on an American city by the person who mastermined the attack on 9-11 was possible. In the meantime OBL was training people for follow on air attacks like the ones done on 9-11 to keep US counterterrorism busy while they prepared for the main attack.

Allah's law, i.e., Sharia Law, and the laws of democratic republics cannot coexist, they say.

We Americans foolishly think that we can choose our laws, or morality, or clothing and our way of life. All of that is prescribed by Allah in the Koran.

Killing helpless people is an act of worship for them. It glorifies Allah. Beheading, burning, dismembering people who are helpless to prevent it is a demonstration of Allah's greatness.

KSM was asked if it was hard for him to behead Daniel Pearl. "No," he said, "we have many sharp knives."

GITMO is just something that the terrorists used to recruit. If it wasn't that it would be something else.

KSM was challenged about the idea that Islam is a religion of peace. "It is a religion of peace," he said. "Once there is a global caliphate and all the infidels are either dead, converted to Islam, or enslaved, there will be peace. We are bringing peace."

All who are not under the dominion of Islam are the enemy.

The terrorists see political correctness as a force multiplier and a cloaking device. They can push radical Muslim ideas in free societies without being challenged.

The radical Muslims are still mad at the West about the Crusades. Their hatred of us will never go away.

We in the West are on the verge of something like a zombie apocalypse. We see terrorists here and there today. In 20 or 30 years it's going to look more like World War Z if we don't do something to get rid of these guys, said Mitchell.

KSM said that radical Islam can't defeat the US by military force. Instead they are going to immigrate to the US, out breed us, wrap themselves in our civil liberties and feed themselves with our welfare while they ratchet up Sharia. And then when the time is right they will totally impose Sharia from within.

"Tolerance is a weakness. Civil liberties are a weakness. You will lose because you don't have to stomach to do what you need to do."
 
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I thought this was pretty common knowledge...
 
Does the OP really think that religious fundamentalism is unique to Islam?
 
A (hateful) chain email copy/pasted as an OP at a debate forum. That's pathetic, and insulting even to the dim general public.
 
So who here was not aware that Islamic terrorists want to kill Westerners and claim that they are religiously mandated to do so?
 
Does the OP really think that religious fundamentalism is unique to Islam?

We have the winner for the false equivalency award.

Hint: You can do things like this and get lauded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

But do a satirical cartoon for Mohamed and you get this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

Even The Onion knows the difference.

WARNING: ONION LINK HAS GRAPHIC PICTURE DO NOT CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.

No One Murdered Because Of This Image - The Onion - America's Finest News Source
 
So who here was not aware that Islamic terrorists want to kill Westerners and claim that they are religiously mandated to do so?
Well, if the O bomb were a member here at DP, he would have to raise his hand on that one, wouldn't he?

That means 8 lost years fighting, taking on our mortal enemies, 8 years of the O bomb basically helping infiltrate our civil systems using our liberties against us.
 
That thought helps us in what way again?

Oh, I don't know, maybe not start more wars in the Middle East that destabilize entire nations and get thousands of our troops killed.
 
We have the winner for the false equivalency award.

Hint: You can do things like this and get lauded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

But do a satirical cartoon for Mohamed and you get this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

Even The Onion knows the difference.

WARNING: ONION LINK HAS GRAPHIC PICTURE DO NOT CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.

No One Murdered Because Of This Image - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Literally the only reason why fundamentalist Christians do not do to the rest of us what fundamentalist Muslims want to do is because of our secular rule of law. Literally the only reason.
 
Well, if the O bomb were a member here at DP, he would have to raise his hand on that one, wouldn't he?

That means 8 lost years fighting, taking on our mortal enemies, 8 years of the O bomb basically helping infiltrate our civil systems using our liberties against us.

Recognizing terrorist claims and blaming a religion for terrorism are two different things. Just because crazies blame an object doesn't mean we do.
 
Literally the only reason why fundamentalist Christians do not do to the rest of us what fundamentalist Muslims want to do is because of our secular rule of law. Literally the only reason.
What is your reasoning, authority or expertise with regard to that outlandish statement?
 
James Mitchell, a person involved in the interrogation of high value radical Muslim terrorists like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has a book out "Enhanced Interrogation" and sat for an interview with Mark Steyn. A few of the points he raised:

Please keep in mind that this is a radical Muslim ideology and may rightly be seen as a distorted and false version of Islam.

Americans assume that if radical Muslims come to understand us and learn that our intentions are good that there will be peace. Exactly the opposite is true. The terrorists feel that they are called by Allah to purge the world of all infidels and establish a global caliphate. The more they know of us the easier it is for them to kill us.

Soon after 9-11 the CIA learned that Osama Bin Laden was seeking nuclear technology from the Pakistanis. When he was told that obtaining the fissionable material would be the hardest part he said, "What if I already have it?" This set off a panic for intelligence in the US because they knew that a nuclear attack on an American city by the person who mastermined the attack on 9-11 was possible. In the meantime OBL was training people for follow on air attacks like the ones done on 9-11 to keep US counterterrorism busy while they prepared for the main attack.

Allah's law, i.e., Sharia Law, and the laws of democratic republics cannot coexist, they say.

We Americans foolishly think that we can choose our laws, or morality, or clothing and our way of life. All of that is prescribed by Allah in the Koran.

Killing helpless people is an act of worship for them. It glorifies Allah. Beheading, burning, dismembering people who are helpless to prevent it is a demonstration of Allah's greatness.

KSM was asked if it was hard for him to behead Daniel Pearl. "No," he said, "we have many sharp knives."

GITMO is just something that the terrorists used to recruit. If it wasn't that it would be something else.

KSM was challenged about the idea that Islam is a religion of peace. "It is a religion of peace," he said. "Once there is a global caliphate and all the infidels are either dead, converted to Islam, or enslaved, there will be peace. We are bringing peace."

All who are not under the dominion of Islam are the enemy.

The terrorists see political correctness as a force multiplier and a cloaking device. They can push radical Muslim ideas in free societies without being challenged.

The radical Muslims are still mad at the West about the Crusades. Their hatred of us will never go away.

We in the West are on the verge of something like a zombie apocalypse. We see terrorists here and there today. In 20 or 30 years it's going to look more like World War Z if we don't do something to get rid of these guys, said Mitchell.

KSM said that radical Islam can't defeat the US by military force. Instead they are going to immigrate to the US, out breed us, wrap themselves in our civil liberties and feed themselves with our welfare while they ratchet up Sharia. And then when the time is right they will totally impose Sharia from within.

"Tolerance is a weakness. Civil liberties are a weakness. You will lose because you don't have to stomach to do what you need to do."

I have a friend who was born in Iran (he's "Persian", not Iranian) and he backs up a lot of this. Arab/Persian culture respects strength, Show strength and you will get respect, show weakness and you become a target. His take on 9/11 was that the 10 years of not stomping Saddam into the mud when he repeatedly flaunted the cease fire had a lot to do with OBL being willing to attack us. OBL saw America as being too weak to deal with an obvious and blatant problem and that gave him the encouragement to carry out the attack. The strength that we showed in liberating Iraq and gutting AQI like a fish was a huge part of how we got the local leaders on board with us. When they figured out that the US Army was a whole lot stronger than AQI, they started backing our efforts. The over-use of diplomacy in the ME has been one of our biggest failings. You can't treat every culture the same and using a tactic that works for "western" cultures may not work for other cultures. With the Persian/Arab you have to be the biggest dog on the block. Russia understands this and it's why they are having far more success at getting things done in that area than we are.
 
Literally the only reason why fundamentalist Christians do not do to the rest of us what fundamentalist Muslims want to do is because of our secular rule of law. Literally the only reason.

That's a lie. It reflects your own bigotry far more than anything else.
 
Literally the only reason why fundamentalist Christians do not do to the rest of us what fundamentalist Muslims want to do is because of our secular rule of law. Literally the only reason.
Are you saying that because fundamentalist Muslims have their own laws, they do not need to follow our secular rule of law?
 
What are you babbling about?

What has that got to do with what I said? Splain it to me, eco.

If I could explain it to you, you'd understand why "Islamic Terrorism" is not a proper term in that it blames an object for terrorism. But I'll give it a try!

Let's say some nutbag shoots a bunch of people while yelling "this is for the NRA, the NRA demands we fight back!" Do we label that "NRA Terrorism"?

If a nutbag blows up an abortion clinic, killing people, in the name of Christianity... Do we label that "Christian Terrorism"?

No, we accept that crazies will use any excuse to do their terrible deeds. But for some reason, when it comes to Muslims, we throw the religion under the bus when a crazy claims group membership.
 
James Mitchell, a person involved in the interrogation of high value radical Muslim terrorists like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has a book out "Enhanced Interrogation" and sat for an interview with Mark Steyn. A few of the points he raised:

Please keep in mind that this is a radical Muslim ideology and may rightly be seen as a distorted and false version of Islam.

Americans assume that if radical Muslims come to understand us and learn that our intentions are good that there will be peace.

Secular and/or pluralistic democracy and religious radicals cannot coexist peacefully. Religious radicals think they know God's law, and they want to force everyone to follow it.
 
If I could explain it to you, you'd understand why "Islamic Terrorism" is not a proper term in that it blames an object for terrorism. But I'll give it a try!

Let's say some nutbag shoots a bunch of people while yelling "this is for the NRA, the NRA demands we fight back!" Do we label that "NRA Terrorism"?

If a nutbag blows up an abortion clinic, killing people, in the name of Christianity... Do we label that "Christian Terrorism"?

No, we accept that crazies will use any excuse to do their terrible deeds. But for some reason, when it comes to Muslims, we throw the religion under the bus when a crazy claims group membership.
Well, we have a decent start here.

I am informed of words and their meaning. There is no, that I am aware of, allusion being made to the entire religion nor the population of Islam, the Muslims. It is specifically identifying those that, in the name of Islam, are promoting, financing and participating in terrorism.

We do not call it Islam or Muslim Terrorism, we have a nice slot allotted for these folks... they are commonly, to most of us, known as "Islamic terrorists". They are not Islam but they are Islamic... which simply means its related to Islam. Islamic terrorism IS related to Islam. Again, it is not all Islam or all Muslims, it specifically narrows it down to those involved in these nefarious acts at whatever level.

And yes we would. If that started happening, if entire groups of Christians, in the name of Christianity, started forming training camps, starting purchasing arms/weaponry, started killing people all over the planet in the name of Christianity, thousands, then tens of thousands of people, threatening in the name of Christianity all others not of the elect... yes, we would. Yes, we should.

But we don't have to that with the Christians. It is Islamic terrorism that we have to worry about. When the Christians act up, then we can cross that bridge.
 
Well, we have a decent start here.

I am informed of words and their meaning. There is no, that I am aware of, allusion being made to the entire religion nor the population of Islam, the Muslims. It is specifically identifying those that, in the name of Islam, are promoting, financing and participating in terrorism.

"Islamic Terrorism" is identifying them as Islamic, not as "claiming Islam".

We do not call it Islam or Muslim Terrorism, we have a nice slot allotted for these folks... they are commonly, to most of us, known as "Islamic terrorists". They are not Islam but they are Islamic... which simply means its related to Islam. Islamic terrorism IS related to Islam. Again, it is not all Islam or all Muslims, it specifically narrows it down to those involved in these nefarious acts at whatever level.

"Related to Islam" is still blaming a religion.

And yes we would. If that started happening, if entire groups of Christians, in the name of Christianity, started forming training camps, starting purchasing arms/weaponry, started killing people all over the planet in the name of Christianity, thousands, then tens of thousands of people, threatening in the name of Christianity all others not of the elect... yes, we would. Yes, we should.

But we don't have to that with the Christians. It is Islamic terrorism that we have to worry about. When the Christians act up, then we can cross that bridge.

Spare us.
 
"Islamic Terrorism" is identifying them as Islamic, not as "claiming Islam".



"Related to Islam" is still blaming a religion.



Spare us.
Knock knock, they ARE Islamic. Get with the program. They are not Christians, they are not Jews, they are not Buddhists, they are not Satanists... they are Islamic. To deny this is simply absurd.

They are related to Islam. And if you say using this specific phrase must blame the religion, those are your words, not mine. My explanations as to what it means I have already stated.

One can remain ignorant to the truth as long as one desires, I suppose. Its still a free country.
 
Knock knock, they ARE Islamic. Get with the program. They are not Christians, they are not Jews, they are not Buddhists, they are not Satanists... they are Islamic. To deny this is simply absurd.

They're no more Islamic than they are Christian or Buddhist. They're nutbags with an excuse that might as well be random.

They are related to Islam. And if you say it must blame the religion, those are your words, not mine. My explanations as to what it means I have already stated.

They're not related to Islam. They are nutbags, power-hungry warlords and gang leaders that grabbed the convenient excuse for their actions. Every wannabe dictator and theocrat hails to something and none of them abide the ethics.

One can remain ignorant to the truth as long as one desires, I suppose. Its still a free country.

Thank you for your magnanimous mercy.
 
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