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Dan Rather Just Posted DEVASTATING Warning About Trump

ludin said:
Dan Rather was a bit time news reporter. He was really credible when he started and then like most media personality he turned.
He ran a story during the GWB era about bush going awol or something to that affect. Well it turned out that he didn't verify the source
of where he got it. turns out that the information he was giving and didn't verify was a fake. someone used a printer that didn't exist back
that far to print out something that looked real.

instead of retracting on the story he double and even tripled down on the fallacy. it cost him his job and his reputation has been
smeared ever since.

given the source that rather is posting on now no reason to believe him on anything. he is no longer a credible source to be trusted.
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Sounds like he would have made a good candidate for Trump's press secretary. LOL!
 
Cigar said:
Dan Rather Just Posted DEVASTATING Warning About Trump


"Dan Rather is upset, and rightfully so. Donald Trump’s behavior over the past few days has been more frightening than ever, and it’s time to get worried.
Rather is on the case once again, calling out Trump for putting our country into a “circle of chaos”. Rather has criticized the president before, but this time, he’s really serious about the consequences if we don’t stop Trump."

"This is a man who challenged the citizenship of President Obama, with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who claimed widespread voter fraud with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who has taken a rhetorical blowtorch to our Constitutional principles with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

Those who rose in Congress to applaud his turns of phrase bear responsibility. Those who cynically use his presidency to push forward unpopular giveaways to the rich and well connected bear responsibility. Those in the press who meet insults with explanations bear responsibility."


https://www.truthexaminer.com/2017/...trump-we-have-an-administration-in-free-fall/
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What makes this opinion devastating? Who is being devastated?
 
Cigar said:
Dan Rather Just Posted DEVASTATING Warning About Trump


"Dan Rather is upset, and rightfully so. Donald Trump’s behavior over the past few days has been more frightening than ever, and it’s time to get worried.
Rather is on the case once again, calling out Trump for putting our country into a “circle of chaos”. Rather has criticized the president before, but this time, he’s really serious about the consequences if we don’t stop Trump."

"This is a man who challenged the citizenship of President Obama, with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who claimed widespread voter fraud with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who has taken a rhetorical blowtorch to our Constitutional principles with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

Those who rose in Congress to applaud his turns of phrase bear responsibility. Those who cynically use his presidency to push forward unpopular giveaways to the rich and well connected bear responsibility. Those in the press who meet insults with explanations bear responsibility."


https://www.truthexaminer.com/2017/...trump-we-have-an-administration-in-free-fall/
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The same Dan Rather who was forced out of his news anchor job at CBS after knowingly reporting as valid falsified documents regarding George W. Bush? We should take him seriously now?
 
- President Trump has made some unremarkable statements.

- I do not put much weight on what "famous" people say, (actors, singers, etc).

- I do not put much weight on editorials from current or past news anchors or reporters.

- imo, DT should cut out making the off the wall comments. But I doubt he will.
along with that, News anchors/reporters should cut out doing editorial reporting and stick to the news.
 
TheGoverness said:
No idea who that is. And that doesn't sound too different from most criticisms of Trump that I've heard before.
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Simply ignore the conservatives whining about “manufactured” evidence. Rather did a report on some unflattering evaluations W got in the national guard. The officer who wrote them had died before the story came out. The whole reason it was dismissed by conservatives that it was written on typewriter that was not in “ wide use”. Not “didn’t exist”, “not wide use”. The officer’s secretary said she typed everything so he couldn’t have done it. Well that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have done it. he just may have used more discretion criticizing a senator’s son. Here’s the rub, the secretary said that it was exactly what he thought of bush but that she would have typed it.

Seems no one could find the originals. Shocking I know. Anyhoo Rather was railroaded out of the job for something that couldn’t be proven beyond all doubt because conservatives are very good at flaming those who dare criticize them. The secretary’s statement confirming the evaluations proves the assertions (as does Bush's poor performance as president). And as you see, “Dan Rather” is quite the effective dog whistle for conservatives. And on an hilarious side note, just think if Fox news was held to this standard of "proven beyond all doubt".
 
Josie said:
Dan Rather? Why would anyone listen to what he says anymore?
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A whole lot of people are still listening to Trump despite the fact that he has a far longer track record of proven lies than Trump. I don't see why a guy who attacked Bush based on one false report has less credibility than Trump.
 
Cigar said:
Anyone here want to discuss the actual topic?
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Sure. Dan gave an opinion on Donald. One old man's opinion of another old man. If you are anti Donald than Dan's opinion is something you agree with and think his opinion is profound and spot on. If you are pro Donald you disagree with Dan and point out he has sometimes made statements that at best dealt with gray areas between truth and lies and his opinion is nothing important.



Personally I feel more folks need firm their own opinion and stop searching out other peoples opinions to mindlessly agree with.
 
Chillfolks said:
Sure. Dan gave an opinion on Donald. One old man's opinion of another old man. If you are anti Donald than Dan's opinion is something you agree with and think his opinion is profound and spot on. If you are pro Donald you disagree with Dan and point out he has sometimes made statements that at best dealt with gray areas between truth and lies and his opinion is nothing important.



Personally I feel more folks need firm their own opinion and stop searching out other peoples opinions to mindlessly agree with.
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What to take a stab at those opinions? Because Dan is not the subject ... just pretend I said it if it helps.
 
Cigar said:
What to take a stab at those opinions? Because Dan is not the subject ... just pretend I said it if it helps.
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Dan is the subject of the thread as he is the one offering his opinion they go hand in hand.

My stab is Dan is someone I don't consider to be honest offering an opinion that has some valid points mixed in with his anti Don triad. His concern for presidents over stepping their power and trashing the constitutional principals the US was founded on would mean more if he wasn't so partisan in how he applies his concern.

But mostly I don't care about Dan's opinion any more than I do any one else's.
 
Cigar said:
Anyone here want to discuss the actual topic?
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I did. Is not the topic what Dan Rather said? And what he said is the same hateful trash we read every day here at DP and elsewhere. Okay I get it. Dan Rather and those who repeat the same hateful stuff over and over and over and over and over and over hate Trump. They say they don't but their words say otherwise.

But Dan Rather, who engaged in the worse sort of that kind of stuff regarding George W. Bush, got caught and was thoroughly discredited and embarrassed, certainly is standing on shaky ground when he accuses anybody of spreading lies.
 
Chillfolks said:
Dan is the subject of the thread as he is the one offering his opinion they go hand in hand.

My stab is Dan is someone I don't consider to be honest offering an opinion that has some valid points mixed in with his anti Don triad. His concern for presidents over stepping their power and trashing the constitutional principals the US was founded on would mean more if he wasn't so partisan in how he applies his concern.

But mostly I don't care about Dan's opinion any more than I do any one else's.
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It's my Thread and I say he isn't ... :mrgreen:

... BTW, if you don't care, then make like a tree.
 
The problem for Dan Rather and his cohorts is not only do we know that he is pretty scummy himself but we also know that the country has been horribly run for a long while, because we are not stupid.

The So-Called Good Old Days , the days before Trump, were pretty bad.

All warnings about Trump have context:





HOW AMERICAN LOST AFGHANISTAN

I think it's important to remember that the Taliban-led insurgency has grown in double digits every year since at least 2005. They control growing amounts of territory. I think the conservative estimates say they control around half of the country. I've had some intelligence analysts tell me they're controlling 90 percent of the countryside. The long-time special forces saying is that if an insurgency isn't shrinking, it's winning. U.S. government officials are trying to say this is a "stalemate." It's not a stalemate. It's a lost war.

We have spent more money on Afghanistan than we spent on the Marshall Plan, adjusted for inflation. Afghanistan has a population of about 30 million people that make on average $400 a year. When we invaded it was a basket case of a country. It was at the bottom of every human development industry. Sixteen years later, with more than the Marshall Plan invested there, they're still at the bottom of virtually every human development category. Most of that money was wasted.
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How America lost Afghanistan
 
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AlbqOwl said:
The same Dan Rather who was forced out of his news anchor job at CBS after knowingly reporting as valid falsified documents regarding George W. Bush? We should take him seriously now?
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And yet, you people call CBS "fake news". Strange.
 
Cigar said:
Got it ... The Messenger Counts ...

BTW, should that rule also work with Tweets?

Just asking ...
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You posted this thread about what Rather said so yes I comment on Rather.

Since he didn't say anything of import, no need to comment on that.
 
Mr Person said:
And yet, you people call CBS "fake news". Strange.
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Well that presentation by Dan Rather was certainly fake news. But it was also in the era that the MSM still exercised some degree of journalistic ethics so he got caught and he got canned.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well that presentation by Dan Rather was certainly fake news. But it was also in the era that the MSM still exercised some degree of journalistic ethics so he got caught and he got canned.
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The fact that Rather is making a comeback tells you a lot about how low the news media in general has gotten.

"Lying and misrepresenting the facts? Dan had it right all along! That's the way to do it when attacking Republicans!"
 
Cigar said:
Dan Rather Just Posted DEVASTATING Warning About Trump


"Dan Rather is upset, and rightfully so. Donald Trump’s behavior over the past few days has been more frightening than ever, and it’s time to get worried.
Rather is on the case once again, calling out Trump for putting our country into a “circle of chaos”. Rather has criticized the president before, but this time, he’s really serious about the consequences if we don’t stop Trump."

"This is a man who challenged the citizenship of President Obama, with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who claimed widespread voter fraud with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who has taken a rhetorical blowtorch to our Constitutional principles with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

Those who rose in Congress to applaud his turns of phrase bear responsibility. Those who cynically use his presidency to push forward unpopular giveaways to the rich and well connected bear responsibility. Those in the press who meet insults with explanations bear responsibility."


https://www.truthexaminer.com/2017/...trump-we-have-an-administration-in-free-fall/
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Dan Rather, isn't he the original #fakenews OG?



Isn't it a least bit troubling for you to use someone who tried to subvert an election with #fakenews stories as a source for anti-trump inspiration?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Dan Rather, isn't he the original #fakenews OG?

Isn't it a least bit troubling for you to use someone who tried to subvert an election with #fakenews stories as a source for anti-trump inspiration?
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LowDown said:
The fact that Rather is making a comeback tells you a lot about how low the news media in general has gotten.

"Lying and misrepresenting the facts? Dan had it right all along! That's the way to do it when attacking Republicans!"
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AlbqOwl said:
Well that presentation by Dan Rather was certainly fake news. But it was also in the era that the MSM still exercised some degree of journalistic ethics so he got caught and he got canned.
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Bush's commanding officer's secretary said that's what he thought of Bush. That is actually more "confirmation" than we've ever gotten from the lying unnamed source that led to 8 Benghazi investigations. so that more than exceeds conservative standards.

In a brief interview Tuesday, she confirmed that Killian had concerns about Bush's failure to take his physical examination in 1972, which prevented him from flying, and about efforts by higher-ups to protect the future president from the fallout.

Knox told several newspapers that Killian kept the personal files on Bush, and on other topics, in a desk drawer as a way of "covering his back" in anticipation of later questions about his actions. She retired in 1979, before Killian's death, and said she did not know what became of the files.

Ex-Guard Typist Recalls Memos Criticizing Bush - latimes

Its nice to have a dad protect his near do well son. the good news is Trump will make W look good.
 
IMO it is fairly obvious America is in the midst of a 'civil war' that is being fought with ideology, and not weapons

I see that changing in the not too distant future

Although I don't welcome that change I won't run from it either

Everyone will have to choose where they will place their loyalties when that time comes

I know where mine will be; do you?
 
TheGoverness said:
No idea who that is. And that doesn't sound too different from most criticisms of Trump that I've heard before.
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He lost a lot of his credibility by airing a news story that wasn't correctly researched and then tried to cover it up.

Pretty much the same stuff that Trump does on a weekly basis. In fact, Rather's incident is likely where Trump learned the art of promulgating "Fake news".
 
Vern said:
Bush's commanding officer's secretary said that's what he thought of Bush. That is actually more "confirmation" than we've ever gotten from the lying unnamed source that led to 8 Benghazi investigations. so that more than exceeds conservative standards.

In a brief interview Tuesday, she confirmed that Killian had concerns about Bush's failure to take his physical examination in 1972, which prevented him from flying, and about efforts by higher-ups to protect the future president from the fallout.

Knox told several newspapers that Killian kept the personal files on Bush, and on other topics, in a desk drawer as a way of "covering his back" in anticipation of later questions about his actions. She retired in 1979, before Killian's death, and said she did not know what became of the files.

Ex-Guard Typist Recalls Memos Criticizing Bush - latimes

Its nice to have a dad protect his near do well son. the good news is Trump will make W look good.
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Well, I don't believe any of this bullcrap, and none of it matters anyway. It doesn't change the fact that Rather tried to pass forged documents off as genuine.
 
Cigar said:
"This is a man who challenged the citizenship of President Obama, with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who claimed widespread voter fraud with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.

This is a man who has taken a rhetorical blowtorch to our Constitutional principles with lies, innuendo, and no evidence.
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...and what's he actually DONE about any of this? Again...hateful attacks from simps that only focus on loose talk, and not on what's being DONE.

I've seen pictures of Obama sucking on a joint. So, I guess I'm to believe he was a complete pothead that just rolled blunts every day on the Oval Office desk while toking with Kerry over who pays for pizza this time.
 
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