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“We cannot find the bill": inside the frantic hunt for the GOP Obamacare replacement

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A Republican bill to replace Obamacare is reportedly hidden somewhere on Capitol Hill — and on Thursday morning, legislators and reporters ended up on a bipartisan wild goose chase to find it.
Republicans have been hard at work drafting a plan to replace the Affordable Care Act. House Speaker Paul Ryan has repeatedly promised it is coming quite soon. Yesterday, multiple news outlets reported that some Republican legislators would have a first chance to look at the bill Thursday.
The briefings would be secretive. Members wouldn’t actually receive copies of the legislation. The copies would remain locked in an undisclosed room for members to look at — but not take home.


Democratic House members and Republican senators were not to be included in this process. But by Thursday morning, they decided to take the matter into their own hands.

The draft legislation was rumored to be in H-157, a nondescript meeting room in the House of Representatives. When legislators arrived, Capitol Police were guarding the entrance, and dozens of reporters were waiting outside for the much-anticipated legislation.


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The hunt for the ACA replacement is still ongoing.
 
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I know that the "hunt" for the bill is a funny show, but I genuinely think it is important. It looks like republicans are preparing to rush their healthcare bill through before it can be critiqued. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
 
Re: “We cannot find the bill": inside the frantic hunt for the GOP Obamacare replacem

I know that the "hunt" for the bill is a funny show, but I genuinely think it is important. It looks like republicans are preparing to rush their healthcare bill through before it can be critiqued. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

They are, absurdly, claiming they're going to pass this mystery overhaul of the health system this month. No time for real markups, public debate, town halls, editorials, floor debates and so on. All the things we got used to in 2009-10.
 
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When they are ready to roll it out, it will come with THEIR description, not the biased media spin and Democratic spin we have come to love of late. I don't blame them.

Rand Paul isn't a Democrat!
 
Re: “We cannot find the bill": inside the frantic hunt for the GOP Obamacare replacem

When they are ready to roll it out, it will come with THEIR description, not the biased media spin and Democratic spin we have come to love of late. I don't blame them.

Won't THEIR description be inherently biased?
 
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Won't THEIR description be inherently biased?

Bias is everywhere, Peanut, as I'm sure you know. How much sense do YOU think it would make for the Republicans simply hand out a 10,000-page piece of legislation and simply say, "Here ya' go."
 
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Bias is everywhere, Peanut, as I'm sure you know. How much sense do YOU think it would make for the Republicans simply hand out a 10,000-page piece of legislation and simply say, "Here ya' go."

Considering the bill affects the entire United States population I would think it would make a lot of sense. I agree that politically it would be silly. It just allows people more time to read it before it's implemented, and then they have to answer questions. As a citizen I would rather a bill of this size be available to the public so we know what is going to happen before it happens.
 
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Considering the bill affects the entire United States population I would think it would make a lot of sense. I agree that politically it would be silly. It just allows people more time to read it before it's implemented, and then they have to answer questions. As a citizen I would rather a bill of this size be available to the public so we know what is going to happen before it happens.

I don't know how much real world experience you have, but rolling out new policy is almost always, or really always, accompanied by a detailed summary as well as a group QnA. Did Obama do that with Obamacare? I don't know. But since the right had talking point after talking point of their false narrative? I'd say not.
 
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I don't know how much real world experience you have, but rolling out new policy is almost always, or really always, accompanied by a detailed summary as well as a group QnA. Did Obama do that with Obamacare? I don't know. But since the right had talking point after talking point of their false narrative? I'd say not.

Actually, Obama had very little to do with putting together the ACA, all the action was in congress, same as this time. Here's Pelosi's comments on how things were handled for the ACA.

Pelosi called the secrecy surrounding the bill "unheard of."

"They're hiding their bill in the basement," Pelosi said. "The Republicans are too terrified of their constituents to make their plan to destroy the Affordable Care Act public."

Pelosi contrasted the Republicans' secrecy with the history of the passage of the ACA, which included the Senate Finance Committee spending eight days publicly "marking up a bill," and "scores of hearings" and "hundreds of amendments."

She also said, without having seen the bill, that the proposal goes in the "reverse direction" from what should be a goal of lowering health costs, expanding health benefits and increasing access to health care.

Pelosi also said the bill would result in a "big transfer of wealth to the wealthy in our country" by repealing taxes related to the ACA.

You can take that for what it's worth, here's the part that concerns me:

Rep. Chris Collins, R-N.Y., was quoted by Bloomberg as saying votes on the bill could occur before it is "scored" by the Congressional Budget Office, which estimates the expected costs and revenues generated by legislation.

How is it responsible to vote on something before they know what it is going to cost?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/02/gop-obamacare-replacement-bill-hidden-in-congress-basement.html
 
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The healthcare committee sessions were brordcast on c-span for those who were interested in watching.

The process happened over months and republican congresspersons were asked for their input.

Here is the timeline of the ACA:

Timeline: Affordable Care Act
Key events in the past and future of Obamacare.

Fall 2008: Presidential candidate Barack Obama says, “On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes — government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. … I believe both of these extremes are wrong.” Obama wins the presidency a week later.

March 2009: President Obama convenes a “health summit” with doctors, insurers, drug companies, consumers advocates and lawmakers. “The status quo is the one option that is not on the table,” the new president says. He appoints Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, who has a history of clashes with the insurance industry, to run the federal Health and Human Services agency. She also heads the White House Office for Health Reform.


Nancy Pelosi speaker of House

July 2009: House Democrats unveil their 1,000-page plan for overhauling the health care system. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (pictured), an ally of Obama’s, says: “When I take this bill to the floor, it will win. This will happen.” House committees begin crunching the details and voting on provisions.

August 2009: Lawmakers go home to find walls of worry erected over “Obamacare.” One lawmaker says citizens are “shell-shocked” over the many changes in the first eight months of Obama’s administration.

Nov. 7, 2009: The House approves its version of health care reform in a 220-215 vote. One Republican votes for the bill. Passage was far from certain — a last-minute compromise limiting federal funding for abortion services cleared the way.

Dec. 24, 2009: The Senate approves its version of the health care overhaul in a 60-39 party-line vote. Democrats have to break a GOP filibuster. The bill’s passage confirms majority agreement in both chambers of Congress.

Timeline: Affordable Care Act's long road to political reality
 
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"You've heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don't know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it's about diet, not diabetes. It's going to be very, very exciting. But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."


Ring a bell anyone?




For a people who generally seem to agree that two wrongs don't make a right, there's a whole lot of second "wrongs" going on lately .....
 
Re: “We cannot find the bill": inside the frantic hunt for the GOP Obamacare replacem

When they are ready to roll it out, it will come with THEIR description, not the biased media spin and Democratic spin we have come to love of late. I don't blame them.

Yea! Its only acceptable if every single news media outlet reports it as "The Totally Awesome ACA Replacement Plan That Is the Greatest Piece of Legislation Ever Written". I mean after all, who woulda thought that health care policy could be so complicated, right?
 
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