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Spicer Checks Staffers' Phones for communications w/reporters

JumpinJack

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Paranoid about White House leaks, Sean Spicer at a meeting checked staffers' phones, looking for communications with reporters. Whether the order came from Trump or Bannon is unknown, but I doubt Spicer makes decisions like that on his own.

What's kinda funny, though, is that the info about Spicer checking the phones was leaked to the press.

Spicer cracks down on office leaks - CNNPolitics.com
 
I'm out of the loop --- what was leaked?
 
JumpinJack said:
Paranoid about White House leaks, Sean Spicer at a meeting checked staffers' phones, looking for communications with reporters. Whether the order came from Trump or Bannon is unknown, but I doubt Spicer makes decisions like that on his own.

What's kinda funny, though, is that the info about Spicer checking the phones was leaked to the press.

Spicer cracks down on office leaks - CNNPolitics.com
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That is funny. LOL

Leaks leaking leaks about leaking.
 
Josie said:
I'm out of the loop --- what was leaked?
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The plethora of leaks coming from inside the WH. It is unclear if POTUS authorized the phone check or if he merely okayed what Spicer wanted to do. As usual, there are varying reports coming from the WH.
 
I really like that the Russia connections were serious leaks of national security, but they were absolutely fake news. If they were not real information, then they were just rumors and not leaks of national security info. If they were real national security leaks, then they were not fake news. You can't have it both ways.
 
trblmkr said:
I really like that the Russia connections were serious leaks of national security, but they were absolutely fake news. If they were not real information, then they were just rumors and not leaks of national security info. If they were real national security leaks, then they were not fake news. You can't have it both ways.
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He "double speaks" quite often and is hoping nobody notices. Sadly, most of his most loyal supporters don't.
 
JumpinJack said:
Paranoid about White House leaks, Sean Spicer at a meeting checked staffers' phones, looking for communications with reporters. Whether the order came from Trump or Bannon is unknown, but I doubt Spicer makes decisions like that on his own.

What's kinda funny, though, is that the info about Spicer checking the phones was leaked to the press.

Spicer cracks down on office leaks - CNNPolitics.com
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Although nobody came out and said so, it was obvious as the CNN reporters talked about the source of this "Spicer checks staff phones" leak was... the Trump Administration itself leaked it! A leak about leaks to show leakers that Trump was serious about finding them!

I hope someday we get a tv series about this administration, and that Alex Baldwin is free to play the lead. :lol:
 
Ok, the leak about the phone checks is hilarious.

How much fun would it be if Pence was behind it all? :)
 
DiAnna said:
Although nobody came out and said so, it was obvious as the CNN reporters talked about the source of this "Spicer checks staff phones" leak was... the Trump Administration itself leaked it! A leak about leaks to show leakers that Trump was serious about finding them!

I hope someday we get a tv series about this administration, and that Alex Baldwin is free to play the lead. :lol:
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A "hit show" for sure.............:)
 
trblmkr said:
I really like that the Russia connections were serious leaks of national security, but they were absolutely fake news. If they were not real information, then they were just rumors and not leaks of national security info. If they were real national security leaks, then they were not fake news. You can't have it both ways.
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Sure you can. That's a false dilemma fallacy that would only play well to the choir. Leaks that are either inaccurate for being false information or out of context information, ect, can still hurt national security by undermining operations inside the administration, ginning up a hostile public opinion which would hamper operation as well, or even causing problems with foreign relations.

For example, Trump didn't hang up on the Australia's PM yet that was false leaked information which then had to be commented on by said PM, which did no favors for anyone.
 
they could make a show outta this, 'The Beverly Hillbillies' ............. they got a cement pond? ............
 
Fishking said:
Sure you can. That's a false dilemma fallacy that would only play well to the choir. Leaks that are either inaccurate for being false information or out of context information, ect, can still hurt national security by undermining operations inside the administration, ginning up a hostile public opinion which would hamper operation as well, or even causing problems with foreign relations.

For example, Trump didn't hang up on the Australia's PM yet that was false leaked information which then had to be commented on by said PM, which did no favors for anyone.
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Not even close. Your examples are not breaches of national security or leaks of secret information. They are rumors or gossip and false information such as that spread every moment of every day via social media. You cannot be prosecuted for leaking national security data because you made stuff up and posted it or sent it to WAPO. It plays well to the other choir though. Oh, and for disrupting foreign relations operations inside the white house try Senator' Cotton's letter to Iran as a prime example.
 
trblmkr said:
Not even close. Your examples are not breaches of national security or leaks of secret information. They are rumors or gossip and false information such as that spread every moment of every day via social media. You cannot be prosecuted for leaking national security data because you made stuff up and posted it or sent it to WAPO. It plays well to the other choir though. Oh, and for disrupting foreign relations operations inside the white house try Senator' Cotton's letter to Iran as a prime example.
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I didn't say anything about prosecuting anyone. I'm saying that it was a false dilemma fallacy and that lies or false reporting actually can cause real national security issues. It's not difficult to understand and I'm not sure why you're trying to obfuscate the issue.
 
Fishking said:
I didn't say anything about prosecuting anyone. I'm saying that it was a false dilemma fallacy and that lies or false reporting actually can cause real national security issues. It's not difficult to understand and I'm not sure why you're trying to obfuscate the issue.
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And causing national security "issues" is not the same as leaking national security data. Which is what the white house said it was investigating. I didn't obfuscate anything. And feel free to address Senator Cottons' letter to Iran while you are at it.
 
trblmkr said:
And causing national security "issues" is not the same as leaking national security data.
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They said "data" or that it harmed national security? Quote please.

And feel free to address Senator Cottons' letter to Iran while you are at it.
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And that has what to do with what?
 
Fishking said:
They said "data" or that it harmed national security? Quote please.

So the Administration did not claim it harmed national security. The leaks had or were of no consequence. It seems we are done here.


And that has what to do with what?
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Your statement.
"can still hurt national security by undermining operations inside the administration, ginning up a hostile public opinion which would hamper operation as well, or even causing problems with foreign relations." Cotton's letter would certainly seem to fall within those parameters.
 
trblmkr said:
Your statement.
"can still hurt national security by undermining operations inside the administration, ginning up a hostile public opinion which would hamper operation as well, or even causing problems with foreign relations." Cotton's letter would certainly seem to fall within those parameters.
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And that has to do with your false dilemma fallacy how?
 
DiAnna said:
Although nobody came out and said so, it was obvious as the CNN reporters talked about the source of this "Spicer checks staff phones" leak was... the Trump Administration itself leaked it! A leak about leaks to show leakers that Trump was serious about finding them!

I hope someday we get a tv series about this administration, and that Alex Baldwin is free to play the lead. :lol:
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Are You Being Served?

The name could take a new twist.
 
trblmkr said:
So you make statements and insist they can only be responded to in regards to the specific topic they were inserted into even though they are general in nature? And again, no false dilemma.
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I made a comment regarding your false dilemma fallacy and your response was to change the subject.
 
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