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Was the Yemen raid really a success?

Is the Global War On Terror really a success?

From the perspective of those who profit from it, a resounding YES!

Otherwise, not so much.
 
Based on what we currently know, no, it wasn't a success overall.
 
How the hell am I supposed to know, I have no trusted source to the information. One is dead, that is all I can know for sure, and I will keep it in mind. This whole "story" is ridiculous, this idea that we are supposed to believe that Trump cant be trusted as commander because we lost one man in Yemen days after he came onto the job. I am insulted at how stupid I am supposed to be according to the twats who are spreading this manipulation on the little people.
 
Vetplus40 said:
He was referencing companies that profit from conflict. Not individuals or fictional characters. Geez................(
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And you mentioned Haliburton. Haliburton isn't even among the top 10 of companies who do profit from conflict, and the top 10 isn't exclusively American. You mentioned them precisely because of the association I mentioned in the previous post and not anything based upon fact.
 
humbolt said:
...And, let me guess, Dick Cheney, Darth Vader, and all the dark forces of the universe.
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humbolt said:
And you mentioned Haliburton. Haliburton isn't even among the top 10 of companies who do profit from conflict, and the top 10 isn't exclusively American. You mentioned them precisely because of the association I mentioned in the previous post and not anything based upon fact.[/QUOTE

I mentioned Haliburton because you took a detour from what was quoted. You folks seem to be imbedded with constant conspiracy theories.
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Maybe he just wanted to take out some families, like he said he was going to do...



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BrewerBob said:
Based on what we currently know, no, it wasn't a success overall.
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It wasn't a success at all. It failed due to not enough intel in advance of the raid. It was premature but trump wanted to look tough. Now that it was a big failure he is running away from responsibility.

President Trump responded to the father calling for an investigation of his Navy SEAL son's death in a Yemen military raid, with the president expressing sympathy for the service member's family but defending the mission as one "that started before I got here."

"This was something that they were looking at for a long time doing," Trump said in an interview on "Fox & Friends" that aired this morning. "And according to Gen. [James] Mattis it was a very successful mission. They got tremendous amounts of information."

"This was a mission that started before I got here," the president said.

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If it were a success he'd be clamouring loud as hell about how it was all because of him.
 
There were many raids during World War Two which were only partial successes, or even failures. Raids by specialized forces are risky by nature, but the fact they do not always go just as planned is no good reason to stop conducting them. In these operations, some people are very likely to be killed other than the ones you wanted to be killed.
 
JumpinJack said:
No. It was a disaster. Children died lingering deaths while suffering, and an American SEAL was killed.

Yeah, Trump....this is complicated, too. Just like Obamacare. Just like travel bans. Just like jobs. Just like getting Mexico to pay for a wall thousands of miles long.
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Not to mention that Yemen is now againist any special operations being conducted within the country.
 
The thing that bothers me is that POTUS gave the "Go ahead" while eating dinner. It would have optically been better had the principles been assembled in the Situation Room and formalized it that way. As it was, giving a nod for a military dinner seems very aloof if not outright callous.
 
poweRob said:
It wasn't a success at all. It failed due to not enough intel in advance of the raid. It was premature but trump wanted to look tough. Now that it was a big failure he is running away from responsibility.

President Trump responded to the father calling for an investigation of his Navy SEAL son's death in a Yemen military raid, with the president expressing sympathy for the service member's family but defending the mission as one "that started before I got here."

"This was something that they were looking at for a long time doing," Trump said in an interview on "Fox & Friends" that aired this morning. "And according to Gen. [James] Mattis it was a very successful mission. They got tremendous amounts of information."

"This was a mission that started before I got here," the president said.

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If it were a success he'd be clamouring loud as hell about how it was all because of him.
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Have you ever been entrusted with classified info?
 
poweRob said:
It wasn't a success at all. It failed due to not enough intel in advance of the raid. It was premature but trump wanted to look tough. Now that it was a big failure he is running away from responsibility.

President Trump responded to the father calling for an investigation of his Navy SEAL son's death in a Yemen military raid, with the president expressing sympathy for the service member's family but defending the mission as one "that started before I got here."

"This was something that they were looking at for a long time doing," Trump said in an interview on "Fox & Friends" that aired this morning. "And according to Gen. [James] Mattis it was a very successful mission. They got tremendous amounts of information."

"This was a mission that started before I got here," the president said.

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If it were a success he'd be clamouring loud as hell about how it was all because of him.
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We scored a 14 to 1 kill ratio. How is that a failure?

No mission begins under perfect conditions and, "no plan survives first contact with the enemy".

Your standard of success isn't realistic.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
How the hell am I supposed to know, I have no trusted source to the information. One is dead, that is all I can know for sure, and I will keep it in mind. This whole "story" is ridiculous, this idea that we are supposed to believe that Trump cant be trusted as commander because we lost one man in Yemen days after he came onto the job. I am insulted at how stupid I am supposed to be according to the twats who are spreading this manipulation on the little people.
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I don't think needs to have his birthday taken away or anything like that. **** happens. And Trump is now sitting in the seat where things like this do, unfortunately, happen.

But, that being said, he does have to own it just like Jimmy Carter did with his failed effort in Iran. And those who criticize Carter for his fail has to also criticize The Donald for his fail, lest they be hypocrites in the first degree.
 
Captain America said:
I don't think needs to have his birthday taken away or anything like that. **** happens. And Trump is now sitting in the seat where things like this do, unfortunately, happen.

But, that being said, he does have to own it just like Jimmy Carter did with his failed effort in Iran. And those who criticize Carter for his fail has to also criticize The Donald for his fail, lest they be hypocrites in the first degree.
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I dont know that this was a fail that is the first hing. The second thing is that the Iran Rescue failure was such a huge thing because Carter himself had let the military rot, which nobody can accuse Trump of because he just got here. The third thing is that Carter let the failure eat away at him, even if this Yemen thing was a failure Trump is highly unlikely to make the same mistake.

So you see, you strike out.
 
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apdst said:
We scored a 14 to 1 kill ratio. How is that a failure?

No mission begins under perfect conditions and, "no plan survives first contact with the enemy".

Your standard of success isn't realistic.
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So killing 25 civilians, of which 9 are children, to kill 14 men, one who was 80 years-old, is a "success" And at the expense of a 90 million dollar chopper? When no valuable intel was retrieved and the target of the raid was unharmed? That is your definition of success?

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...-the-full-details-of-botched-us-raid-in-yemen

Yemen SEAL Raid Has Yielded No Significant Intelligence: Officials - NBC News

Take off your partisan glasses for one minute, look in the mirror, and ask yourself with all the same facts if you would be calling this a "success" if it had been ordered by Obama or Clinton.
 
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