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"CNN is NOT fake news" Shep Smith defends CNN on Fox News

This guy has really impressed me lately.

I hope Fox News is not giving him too much grief for opposing the Trump Administration on several things lately.
 
I've never been a fan of Fox News, but I do appreciate a main Fox New host defending other news outlets being targeted by the White House because they are doing their job.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I've never been a fan of Fox News, but I do appreciate a main Fox New host defending other news outlets being targeted by the White House because they are doing their job.
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I've been a fan of Fox News ever since the Bush Admin when I first started paying attention to politics at the ripe young age of 13. Not so much a fan these days, but Shep is truly one of their better hosts. Always has been. Over the years I have had my significant differences with numerous Fox News hosts, this election season, I can't name how many I stopped listening to due to their loving devotion to the President, but Shep I will always like.
 
DA60 said:


Thoughts?
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While I do not think excluding media from this type of briefing efficient, societally helpful or politically very astute of the President, I have been rather disappointed by CNN and the New York Times. While the NYT was a reliable source of news in the past, this seems to have changed so that news and opinion are no longer separated and thus the news they report must be much more rigorously double checked. CNN has always been of lower quality, but recently they are very tendentious to the point of being predictable in the set of political opinions any news will support. It is almost as bad as Russia Today.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I've never been a fan of Fox News, but I do appreciate a main Fox New host defending other news outlets being targeted by the White House because they are doing their job.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
I don't like Fox news or CNN... both are intentionally misleading and are guilty of "fake" news(or at least with misleading/begging the question/character assassination/biased news, which is close enough for me). CNN is especially guilty of this lately because of how crazy they've gone since Trump won.

Attacking the mainstream media is a good thing.... they deserve it. Is all Media bad? No.... but the major news networks are.

What we learned this year= The main stream media and the Judiciary can never be called out for their BS.
 
celticwar17 said:
I don't like Fox news or CNN... both are intentionally misleading and are guilty of "fake" news(or at least with misleading/begging the question/character assassination/biased news, which is close enough for me).

Attacking the mainstream media is a good thing.... they deserve it. Is all Media bad? No.... but the major news networks are.

What we learned this year= The main stream media and the Judiciary can never be called out for their BS.
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Absolutely no one is saying the media is perfect, they're not, they sensationalize, they have reported certain things in the past in a way that was extremely irresponsible, one of the best examples was Ebola in recent years and this comedian makes pretty good light of that:



But that's not what the President is saying, for the media or for the judiciary.

It's one thing to disagree with coverage or a judicial decision.

But for the President, he's made it extremely clear:

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This extends to any and all negative coverage, for Trump and his cronies, any negative news is fake news and that's not attacking the media in a measured and responsible way for the crap that they do do, that's just dangerous and anti-free press.
 
DA60 said:
This guy has really impressed me lately.

I hope Fox News is not giving him too much grief for opposing the Trump Administration on several things lately.
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We're gonna need more of that in the face of Trump's quasi-fascist misadventures and disdain for anyone that doesn't fall for his bullsh*t.

CNN better stay going hard on Trump.

Jetboogieman said:
This extends to any and all negative coverage, for Trump and his cronies, any negative news is fake news and that's not attacking the media in a measured and responsible way for the crap that they do do, that's just dangerous and anti-free press.
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He's yet to do anything deserving of "positive" coverage.

Not that he's entitled to such a thing.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Absolutely no one is saying the media is perfect, they're not, they sensationalize, they have reported certain things in the past in a way that was extremely irresponsible, one of the best examples was Ebola in recent years and this comedian makes pretty good light of that:



But that's not what the President is saying, for the media or for the judiciary.

It's one thing to disagree with coverage or a judicial decision.

But for the President, he's made it extremely clear:

trumpo.jpg


This extends to any and all negative coverage, for Trump and his cronies, any negative news is fake news and that's not attacking the media in a measured and responsible way for the crap that they do do, that's just dangerous and anti-free press.
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They very well could be.... their track record is terrible. It is'nt news... it's agenda driven news. There is no anti-free press going on... I hope this puts a serious dent in the main stream media... they are old and deserve to die. Let the alternative media take over.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I respect Shep, but he is wrong. When the FBI actually proves a certain outlet media to be less than honest, the president has a right to to revoke access.
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I am not sure of the legality of this whole thing....I assume the Trump administration is not breaking the law.

But I do think it sets a bad precedence.

What disturbs me most with all this is Trump's ongoing obsession with the media (his speech today went on and on about it). Why can he not just forget the media and get on with the business of running the country? He has complained more about the media in the first month than I remember either Bush or Obama doing in their respective entire 8 years.
Okay, so the media says bad things about you? Okay, they are often wrong? You cannot do anything about it. Just blow it off and move on. Act like a man, not a boy.
But calling them names and enemies of Americans and barring those who do not say what he likes them does nothing more than play right into their hands.
And, it just proves what many Trump critics have long said...he has an INCREDIBLY thin skin.
And, imo, that is potentially very dangerous for a POTUS - no matter which party he represents.
 
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Van Basten said:
We're gonna need more of that in the face of Trump's quasi-fascist misadventures and disdain for anyone that doesn't fall for his bullsh*t.

CNN better stay going hard on Trump.



He's yet to do anything deserving of "positive" coverage.

Not that he's entitled to such a thing.
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The amazing part is that most of Trumps negative press is self inflicted. He does stupid stuff and says stupid stuff. As such, the press covers stupid stuff.
 
If I tune in in that time slot it's Brook Baldwin of 'Fake News" CNN for me. She's a looker &
not as anti-Trump as Tapper, Wolf & Lemon. Shep is just too boring and veers to the left
moreso than all other Fox anchors.
 
slick said:
If I tune in in that time slot it's Brook Baldwin of 'Fake News" CNN for me. She's a looker &
not as anti-Trump as Tapper, Wolf & Lemon. Shep is just too boring and veers to the left
moreso than all other Fox anchors.
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POTUS never watches Lemon or so he says. Oddly enough, he seems to be able to reference a lot of what Lemon says.
 
DA60 said:
I am not sure of the legality of this whole thing....I assume the Trump administration is not breaking the law.

But I do think it sets a bad precedence.

What disturbs me most with all this is Trump's ongoing obsession with the media (his speech today went on and on about it). Why can he not just forget the media and get on with the business of running the country? He has complained more about the media in the first month than I remember either Bush or Obama doing in their respective entire 8 years.
Okay, so the media says bad things about you? Blow it off and move on.
But calling them names and enemies of Americans and barring those who do not say what he likes them does nothing more than play right into their hands.
And, it just proves what many Trump critics have long said...he has an INCREDIBLY thin skin.
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I disagree.

I like the fact that someone actually stands up to the press.

I am not a Trumper, and i don't like him as CIC, but I have seen this BS for far too long with the press and their omissions, false premises, and outright lies.

CNN was caught red handed, and they expect it to be business as usual and get off just because they are "inside Washington"

I wish we had more Tim Russert's and Buckley's out there, but we are stuck with this pile of **** that we call journalism.
 
Tim Russert would have eaten POTUS alive just as soon as Trump started off with the "dishonest media" horse manure.
 
Vetplus40 said:
The amazing part is that most of Trumps negative press is self inflicted. He does stupid stuff and says stupid stuff. As such, the press covers stupid stuff.
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Not most of it, all of it.

Exactly, if he wants it to stop, he should stop being a bigoted moron and govern like an actual adult.
 
I'm still amazed at how many people on this forum that don't know what the word fake means.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I disagree.

I like the fact that someone actually stands up to the press.

I am not a Trumper, and i don't like him as CIC, but I have seen this BS for far too long with the press and their omissions, false premises, and outright lies.

CNN was caught red handed, and they expect it to be business as usual and get off just because they are "inside Washington"

I wish we had more Tim Russert's and Buckley's out there, but we are stuck with this pile of **** that we call journalism.
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So, what has he done so far? He has barred some press, called many others 'enemies of the American people' (which is beyond childish), pissed off both the CIA and the FBI by getting on their cases about the leaks (that will come back to bite him - I guarantee you, rule NUMBER ONE as POTUS...NEVER piss off the CIA/FBI/intelligence community) and generally wasted tons of time and effort he should be devoting to golf - er - working.


All Trump is doing is looking thin skinned and (I assume) giving the MSM big ratings boosts. So they will keep baiting him to keep their ratings up as he gets more and more angry.
And the angrier Trump gets at the press, the sillier he sounds (imo) and the more his personal approval ratings drop. If they drop far enough, Congress will abandon him - and then he will start quacking in year one?!?

Quinnipiac poll: Donald Trump's job approval rating declines to 38 percent - UPI.com

I guarantee you his whining will make MSM news more accountable not one iota.
 
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Van Basten said:
Not most of it, all of it.

Exactly, if he wants it to stop, he should stop being a bigoted moron and govern like an actual adult.
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The man lies habitually. He either fabricates or inflates virtually everything he does or is involved with. The truly amazing part is how easy he can control people who are too lazy to think for themselves. He gets these folks to compromise their principles to support him and defend him and laughs at them the whole time.
 
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