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Miller and the "new" travel ban

there is a difference as it has an exception for people that have green cards and other legal documentation to come in.
that is was one of the hang ups with the first one.

this one actually revises it and doesn't restrict people who have permission to enter the country.
by changing it negates all the court actions that have happened so far.
 
ludin said:
there is a difference as it has an exception for people that have green cards and other legal documentation to come in.
that is was one of the hang ups with the first one.

this one actually revises it and doesn't restrict people who have permission to enter the country.
by changing it negates all the court actions that have happened so far.
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If it addresses those issues, then it has to be very different than the first. That said, Millers poor choice of words has already served up the oppositions opening remarks should this one be challenged. He really should choose his words better.
 
countryboy said:
Why are "tolerant" libs so concerned with what people look like?
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Why do "self righteous" Conservatives comment on how others think and continue to label others incorrectly? The view must be spectacular from that lofty perch that you use. Too bad the perch only exists in your mind. ............:)

It was a harmless comment on his physical similarity to the boy in the movie. It wasn't about the movie, or the boys lack of education and obvious "inbreeding", so you can put that "conspiracy" theory to rest.
 
Vetplus40 said:
Apparently, the new ban wont be released until next week, but here is a preview:

Stephen Miller Promises New Travel Ban Will Be 'Fundamentally' Just Like The First One: Gothamist

To me, he looks like an older version of the young boy that played the banjo in "Deliverance".
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Actually, he looks nothing like him at all. But Miller is likely quite correct. Since the first one was 'fundamentally' a temporary ban on travel from 7 nations, the second one will be 'fundamentally' like the first one if it does the same thing.
 
Fletch said:
Actually, he looks nothing like him at all. But Miller is likely quite correct. Since the first one was 'fundamentally' a temporary ban on travel from 7 nations, the second one will be 'fundamentally' like the first one if it does the same thing.
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it does it just has exceptions for people that have legal documents that allow them into the US.
 
ludin said:
it does it just has exceptions for people that have legal documents that allow them into the US.
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Right. Which means it is fundamentally the same--the fundamentals being a temporary ban on travel from 7 failed states until proper vetting can take place. The left is just in a phase of hyper-sensitivity and anger. They will oppose anything the White House says. For example, if Miller had said: "This EO is 'fundamentally' different from the first one, the leftist outrage factory would be saying that Miller is lying since the new EO is 'fundamentally' the same as the first one since it still wants to ban immigration from the same 7 countries.. Its almost pointless to even deal with the left right now. The meltdown is just too far along at this point.
 
Vetplus40 said:
Why do "self righteous" Conservatives comment on how others think and continue to label others incorrectly? The view must be spectacular from that lofty perch that you use. Too bad the perch only exists in your mind. ............:)

It was a harmless comment on his physical similarity to the boy in the movie. It wasn't about the movie, or the boys lack of education and obvious "inbreeding", so you can put that "conspiracy" theory to rest.
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Whatever you say.
 
Fletch said:
Actually, he looks nothing like him at all. But Miller is likely quite correct. Since the first one was 'fundamentally' a temporary ban on travel from 7 nations, the second one will be 'fundamentally' like the first one if it does the same thing.
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I am glad you didn't think so. If you did, I would start to worry.
 
Vetplus40 said:
If it addresses those issues, then it has to be very different than the first. That said, Millers poor choice of words has already served up the oppositions opening remarks should this one be challenged. He really should choose his words better.
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Bannon dropped Miller's name today with his Priebus love fest at CPAC .
 
Fletch said:
Actually, he looks nothing like him at all. But Miller is likely quite correct. Since the first one was 'fundamentally' a temporary ban on travel from 7 nations, the second one will be 'fundamentally' like the first one if it does the same thing.
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Are you comfortable with Bannon and Miller being the top two advisers to trump ?
 
Fletch said:
Right. Which means it is fundamentally the same--the fundamentals being a temporary ban on travel from 7 failed states until proper vetting can take place. The left is just in a phase of hyper-sensitivity and anger. They will oppose anything the White House says. For example, if Miller had said: "This EO is 'fundamentally' different from the first one, the leftist outrage factory would be saying that Miller is lying since the new EO is 'fundamentally' the same as the first one since it still wants to ban immigration from the same 7 countries.. Its almost pointless to even deal with the left right now. The meltdown is just too far along at this point.
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You're correct about it being pointless to talk to trumposters who are in full meltdown mode trying to defend trump's brain, Bannon .
 
NIMBY said:
trump's brain----though it's nothing to laugh about after seeing/hearing from Bannon today
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A White Supremacist masquerading as a true Conservative, speaking at a Conservative gathering, and the Conservatives didn't even notice.

POTUS badly needs a new hairstyle, and Bannon looks like his hair hasn't been washed in weeks. He simply looks "unclean".
 
Vetplus40 said:
A White Supremacist masquerading as a true Conservative, speaking at a Conservative gathering, and the Conservatives didn't even notice.

POTUS badly needs a new hairstyle, and Bannon looks like his hair hasn't been washed in weeks. He simply looks "unclean".
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Bannon broke the trump rule of not wearing a tie. That's how powerful he is.

trump knows that Bannon is THE most responsible person for his winning the election and doesn't dare cross him for reasons we will eventually learn .
 
NIMBY said:
Looks are very important to your dear leader .
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You've got it all wrong nimby (shocker, I know), the term "dear leader" is a commie thing. That would be your side. O'Bama was "dear leader". Trump is the god emperor (may he live forever).
 
NIMBY said:
Bannon broke the trump rule of not wearing a tie. That's how powerful he is.

trump knows that Bannon is THE most responsible person for his winning the election and doesn't dare cross him for reasons we will eventually learn .
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There is no doubt who is running the White House. Bannon even said that Trump was his "Blunt Instrument" to use to effectuate the change that he has longed form.........")
 
tres borrachos said:
"Travel Ban 2.0"?:mrgreen:

He is creepy, and a really bad liar too. Let's see what 2.0 looks like. Hopefully Trump is wise enough to let others besides Bannon and Miller write it.
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This WH has the most diverse group in it in quite sometime. You could literally use them to write a PhD thesis on mental disorders.
 
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