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Trump Throws Trans People Under the Bus

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calamity said:
lol...it's not like we didn't see this coming.

Trump Administration Rescinds Protections For Transgender Students | The Huffington Post

I guess I'd feel better about it if he did it for the right reasons: protecting the rights of real women/girls. But, I know he did it more for Christian appeasement than anything else. Not sure I agree with the motives here, but the ends are A-OK by me.
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There is NOTHING wrong with supporting Christian constituents. Why do you think there is?

My thought is that this is much ado about nothing at all. If a woman is dressed like a man, she can use the men's bathroom because who would know she's a woman anyway? Same Vice versa. Course if a person is a COMPLETE idiot and announces, "Jist so you know, I'm transgendered!" they have bigger problems than which bathroom to use.
 
I like the decision myself.
 
MaggieD said:
There is NOTHING wrong with supporting Christian constituents. Why do you think there is?
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Because I am not Christian. :)

Well, I guess, technically I am since I was baptized as one long ago. But...you know what I mean.

My thought is that this is much ado about nothing at all. If a woman is dressed like a man, she can use the men's bathroom because who would know she's a woman anyway? Same Vice versa. Course if a person is a COMPLETE idiot and announces, "Jist so you know, I'm transgendered!" they have bigger problems than which bathroom to use.
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Sure. I have always said that if someone can "pass," they should use the facilities that best fit them. But, this is definitely going to stop someone with a penis from showering with girls just because he says he is a girl.
 
calamity said:
Because I am not Christian. :)

Well, I guess, technically I am since I was baptized as one long ago. But...you know what I mean.


Sure. I have always said that if someone can "pass," they should use the facilities that best fit them. But, this is definitely going to stop someone with a penis from showering with girls just because he says he is a girl.
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I'm thinking your example here could be easily thwarted by the girls pointing and laughing... ;)
 
MaggieD said:
There is NOTHING wrong with supporting Christian constituents. Why do you think there is?
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Because our government shouldn't be run off religious beliefs. There's nothing wrong with supporting Christian constituents, but it shouldn't come to the detriment or exclusion of others, as it has many times in the past.

My thought is that this is much ado about nothing at all.
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That's how I've felt for a long time on this subject too. It seems like a kind of useless distraction.

There's no reason to not let a person use the bathroom of gender which they identify. Nothing. No one is going to be molested or raped, at least no more than what already happens. That's nothing more than baseless fear talking, to try and incite fear and hatred against someone who is "different" from the one fanning the flames. On the other hand, it's just a bathroom...you use it to remove harmful body byproducts. It doesn't matter if there is straight stick figure or a dressed stick figure on the door, just go to the damn bathroom.

Lots of cares being given on a subject which should receive very little care.
 
MaggieD said:
I'm thinking your example here could be easily thwarted by the girls pointing and laughing... ;)
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Maggie - you have just struck fear into the heart of every male in America.
 
calamity said:
Because I am not Christian. :)
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I suspect that you are not black either. Or female. Do you voice similar objections to things you see as 'appeasement' to other minority pressure groups?
 
calamity said:
lol...it's not like we didn't see this coming.

Trump Administration Rescinds Protections For Transgender Students | The Huffington Post

I guess I'd feel better about it if he did it for the right reasons: protecting the rights of real women/girls. But, I know he did it more for Christian appeasement than anything else. Not sure I agree with the motives here, but the ends are A-OK by me.
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Actually, he's stated over and over again he prefers to leave things like this up to the states.
 
calamity said:
lol...it's not like we didn't see this coming.

Trump Administration Rescinds Protections For Transgender Students | The Huffington Post

I guess I'd feel better about it if he did it for the right reasons: protecting the rights of real women/girls. But, I know he did it more for Christian appeasement than anything else. Not sure I agree with the motives here, but the ends are A-OK by me.
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It became what the 10th amendment calls, " a power reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"

Excellent!
 
Really? Obama once again overstepped and involved the federal government to decide who can use what bathroom?
The majority of folks do not want a man using the ladies room. Many public building have family bathrooms so either
male or female could use them. That seems like a simple way to handle this issue. Why not have individual school
create a anyone bath room and solve the problem with out the Federal Government mandating some overly broad
ruling.

Anyway Obama's order was stayed by the Supreme Court and it will hear an appeal from the Gloucester County School Board this term.
 
Trans women are real women and trans men are real men. Period.

Awful move. No surprise though, since this admin is so anti-LGBT.
 
Your Star said:
Trans women are real women and trans men are real men. Period.

Awful move. No surprise though, since this admin is so anti-LGBT.
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I don't believe that he is nearly as anti LGBT as he wants you to believe. He is now, because that is what he needs to be politically. Remember, he was for the Iraq war before he was against it.

Trump is not an ideologue by nature. He is a pragmatist. As such, his beliefs are fluid and not grounded in strong conviction. If you remember, he WAS for a two state solution to the Israeli/Palestine controversy. Now, he is for "Whatever they decide".
 
Your Star said:
Trans women are real women and trans men are real men. Period.

Awful move. No surprise though, since this admin is so anti-LGBT.
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Except they're not biologically speaking. :shrug: The LBGT community failing to understand biological fact and repeating a falsehood over and over again only leads me to believe they're liars.
 
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