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Trump has a problem: Americans increasingly think he's incompetent

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Donald Trump has already set a record for being the most unpopular new president since the invention of telephone polling. But I don't think job approval is the poll number Trump should be most worried about.

If I were him, I'd be worrying about the question the Quinnipiac University poll was asking about my leadership skills.

In a new Quinnipiac survey, out on Wednesday, only 42% of voters said they think Trump is a good leader, and 55% said he's not.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-problem-americans-increasingly-think-201921252.html


OH BOY .....................
 
cuban smokes said:
Donald Trump has already set a record for being the most unpopular new president since the invention of telephone polling. But I don't think job approval is the poll number Trump should be most worried about.

If I were him, I'd be worrying about the question the Quinnipiac University poll was asking about my leadership skills.

In a new Quinnipiac survey, out on Wednesday, only 42% of voters said they think Trump is a good leader, and 55% said he's not.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-problem-americans-increasingly-think-201921252.html


OH BOY .....................
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Truman, Carter, Ford, Nixon, GW Bush and Obama all had approval ratings that averaged below 50% for their presidency.
Every post ww2 president, except Eisenhower and Kennedy had low points that were below 42, sometimes well below 42.
At this point in time its way too early to determine anything.
 
Which tells me that nearly half the nation has a horrifying definition of "competence."
 
SocialD said:
Truman, Carter, Ford, Nixon, GW Bush and Obama all had approval ratings that averaged below 50% for their presidency.
Every post ww2 president, except Eisenhower and Kennedy had low points that were below 42, sometimes well below 42.
At this point in time its way too early to determine anything.
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In their first month?
 
Beaudreaux said:
Mika Brzezinski explains exactly why people think things like this:

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I hope what she meant to say before stopping and Joe chiming in was "and that is our job....to not allow the (insert title here) to tell people what to think" or something to that effect.

I think Mika is a colossal nitwit but I find it hard to believe she was saying that is the media's job to tell people what to think.
 
cuban smokes said:
Donald Trump has already set a record for being the most unpopular new president since the invention of telephone polling. But I don't think job approval is the poll number Trump should be most worried about.

If I were him, I'd be worrying about the question the Quinnipiac University poll was asking about my leadership skills.

In a new Quinnipiac survey, out on Wednesday, only 42% of voters said they think Trump is a good leader, and 55% said he's not.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-problem-americans-increasingly-think-201921252.html


OH BOY .....................
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First, please do not use giant fonts. They do nothing except annoy people(or at least me).

Secondly, a poll at this time is nearly meaningless.

Third, calling Trump names is about the most juvenile debate strategy ever. If you cannot manage to actually argue effectively against what he is doing without calling him a poopiehead, the problem is probably with you. One if the big reasons democrats lost in November is because we did a piss poor job of articulating what we were for and against(well, except we were against Trump). This thread is like exhibit A of that problem. You have literally convinced no one of anything they did not already believe.
 
tres borrachos said:
I hope what she meant to say before stopping and Joe chiming in was "and that is our job....to not allow the (insert title here) to tell people what to think" or something to that effect.

I think Mika is a colossal nitwit but I find it hard to believe she was saying that is the media's job to tell people what to think.
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We can hope. But, I can only go by what she actually said, not by what she might have meant to say if she had more time to think about and equivocate or make it more PC.

In all seriousness though, listen to her again. She sounded like she finished her sentence and her thought with the word "job." Based on some of the other nitwit (to use your correct term for her) crap she has said over the years, I don't have a problem believing that she said exactly what she meant to say. I also don't have a problem believing that most people in the media feel that way as well.
 
tres borrachos said:
In their first month?
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Actually Eisenhower had a 32 in his first month and ended up finishing as one of the highest averages. Truman on the other hand started out in the high 80s his first month and ended in the low 30s.
So the start out doesn't mean anything.
 
Beaudreaux said:
We can hope. But, I can only go by what she actually said, not by what she might have meant to say if she had more time to think about and equivocate or make it more PC.

In all seriousness though, listen to her again. She sounded like she finished her sentence and her thought with the word "job." Based on some of the other nitwit (to use your correct term for her) crap she has said over the years, I don't have a problem believing that she said exactly what she meant to say. I also don't have a problem believing that most people in the media feel that way as well.
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She did finish with the word "job" and that's why I said I'll assume there was more to that. She isn't the most articulate woman in media - and she's definitely not the brightest. I never got why he has her as his sidekick. Her cackling is annoying enough, but she says the most random crap sometimes. I love his show but I tend to hit mute a lot when she has control of the microphone.

But anyway, as much as I love to pick on Mika:mrgreen: I don't want to get this thread off the OP topic.

Hope all is well with you and the missus!
 
SocialD said:
Actually Eisenhower had a 32 in his first month and ended up finishing as one of the highest averages. Truman on the other hand started out in the high 80s his first month and ended in the low 30s.
So the start out doesn't mean anything.
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I looked at Gallup. Eisenhower was 32 at the end of 1952 and then shot to 68 in January 1953. That's confusing. Was he even President at the end of 1952?

I will disagree that the start doesn't mean anything. I think the first few months are critical. It's hard to come from behind, because as we know from the last bunch of Presidents, it tends to go down quickly when the honeymoon is over.
 
cuban smokes said:
Donald Trump has already set a record for being the most unpopular new president since the invention of telephone polling. But I don't think job approval is the poll number Trump should be most worried about.

If I were him, I'd be worrying about the question the Quinnipiac University poll was asking about my leadership skills.

In a new Quinnipiac survey, out on Wednesday, only 42% of voters said they think Trump is a good leader, and 55% said he's not.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-problem-americans-increasingly-think-201921252.html


OH BOY .....................
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If you recall, during the campaign, Trumps numbers were in the low 40's the entire time. So that they are still there is no real surprise. It also should be noted that this election was between the two most unpopular candidates in US history. No matter which candidate came out on top, there was going to be a significant percentage of the country that would be upset at the outcome. Its entirely possible that Trumps numbers may never really rush past the 50% mark, but that doesn't mean he wont get a good portion of his agenda enacted or that he wont win re-election
 
tres borrachos said:
I looked at Gallup. Eisenhower was 32 at the end of 1952 and then shot to 68 in January 1953. That's confusing. Was he even President at the end of 1952?

I will disagree that the start doesn't mean anything. I think the first few months are critical. It's hard to come from behind, because as we know from the last bunch of Presidents, it tends to go down quickly when the honeymoon is over.
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Reagan, G HW Bush and Clinton all finished with higher approvals than they started out with. I still say it doesn't mean anything.
 
cuban smokes said:
Donald Trump has already set a record for being the most unpopular new president since the invention of telephone polling. But I don't think job approval is the poll number Trump should be most worried about.

If I were him, I'd be worrying about the question the Quinnipiac University poll was asking about my leadership skills.

In a new Quinnipiac survey, out on Wednesday, only 42% of voters said they think Trump is a good leader, and 55% said he's not.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-problem-americans-increasingly-think-201921252.html


OH BOY .....................
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You people spend too much time reading the media reports most of which are interviewing leftwing radicals who probably don't have a job and may never get a job. You don't become a billionaire by being incompetent but you do become a leftwing radical protestor who is out of touch with reality. Trump has been in office 4 weeks, ask the coal miners if he is a good leader, business leaders if he is a good leader. Stop reading headlines and actually find out what he has done
 
SocialD said:
Reagan, G HW Bush and Clinton all finished with higher approvals than they started out with. I still say it doesn't mean anything.
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When Trump delivers on his promises for economic growth, job creation, America first, and national security, he will blow those high approval ratings a way which will leave the left with nothing but their normal whining and complaining along with sour grapes over losing an election
 
Conservative said:
You people spend too much time reading the media reports most of which are interviewing leftwing radicals who probably don't have a job and may never get a job. You don't become a billionaire by being incompetent but you do become a leftwing radical protestor who is out of touch with reality. Trump has been in office 4 weeks, ask the coal miners if he is a good leader, business leaders if he is a good leader. Stop reading headlines and actually find out what he has done
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The coal miners have no idea yet. Perhaps they will like him, but I haven't seen the results yet. Only the rhetoric.
 
Redress said:
First, please do not use giant fonts. They do nothing except annoy people(or at least me).

Secondly, a poll at this time is nearly meaningless.

Third, calling Trump names is about the most juvenile debate strategy ever. If you cannot manage to actually argue effectively against what he is doing without calling him a poopiehead, the problem is probably with you. One if the big reasons democrats lost in November is because we did a piss poor job of articulating what we were for and against(well, except we were against Trump). This thread is like exhibit A of that problem. You have literally convinced no one of anything they did not already believe.
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Poopiehead? Why do I always miss these things?
 
SocialD said:
Truman, Carter, Ford, Nixon, GW Bush and Obama all had approval ratings that averaged below 50% for their presidency.
Every post ww2 president, except Eisenhower and Kennedy had low points that were below 42, sometimes well below 42.
At this point in time its way too early to determine anything.
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It wasn't too early for Obama in January of 2009. He had a whopping 69% Approval rating, with only a 12% Disapproval rating.

Obama?s Initial Approval Ratings in Historical Context | Gallup

By the end of his 2nd term, depending on the poll, he averaged about a 55% approval, and a 40% disapproval. Not sure where you are getting your data.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval
 
Media_Truth said:
It wasn't too early for Obama in January of 2009. He had a whopping 69% Approval rating, with only a 12% Disapproval rating.

Obama?s Initial Approval Ratings in Historical Context | Gallup

By the end of his 2nd term, depending on the poll, he averaged about a 55% approval, and a 40% disapproval. Not sure where you are getting your data.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval
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From Gallup where it shows the low point of a presidents approval rating.


Gallup Historical Presidential Job Approval Statistics

Low individual measurements

Low approval rating %


Harry Truman
February 1952 22

Dwight Eisenhower
March 1958 48

John Kennedy
September 1963 56

Lyndon Johnson
August 1968 35

Richard Nixon
July 1974 and Aug. 1974 24

Gerald Ford
Jan. 1975 and March 1975 37

Jimmy Carter
June 1979 28

Ronald Reagan
January 1983 35

George H.W. Bush
July 1992 29

Bill Clinton
June 1993 37

George W. Bush
October 2008 25

Barack Obama
Aug. 2011, Oct. 2011 and Sept. 2014 38
 
Nope.

The fear on the left is that these policies are going to work. They will.

His awkwardness and communication quirks won't mean a thing if real change that most people want actually happens.
 
rocket88 said:
The coal miners have no idea yet. Perhaps they will like him, but I haven't seen the results yet. Only the rhetoric.
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Neither have you and yet you don't like him for whatever reason. Results matter and 4 weeks people like you have no idea what he has done because you have focused on the leftwing media headlines that have distorted what he has done. What exactly is your problem with pro growth, pro jobs, America first, and strong national defense? You obviously have paid no attention to his EO's which is a thread I started and the left like you has run from
 
Media_Truth said:
It wasn't too early for Obama in January of 2009. He had a whopping 69% Approval rating, with only a 12% Disapproval rating.

Obama?s Initial Approval Ratings in Historical Context | Gallup

By the end of his 2nd term, depending on the poll, he averaged about a 55% approval, and a 40% disapproval. Not sure where you are getting your data.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval
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I have asked this over and over again only to be ignored, How can a President with a supposed 60% JAR lose both the Congress and the WH? Seems like all those supposed supporters ignored his record
 
Media_Truth said:
It wasn't too early for Obama in January of 2009. He had a whopping 69% Approval rating, with only a 12% Disapproval rating.

Obama?s Initial Approval Ratings in Historical Context | Gallup

By the end of his 2nd term, depending on the poll, he averaged about a 55% approval, and a 40% disapproval. Not sure where you are getting your data.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval
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Obama fell from 69% at the start of his term to 45% right at the first midterm election. That's a pretty big drop. I wonder what it's attributable to. Obamacare most likely. By 2010 it was already weighing him down. He and his party paid a price for it. He was at 50% on the 2012 election day. I suspect that explains why Romney came close - and why the polls in 2012 mostly pointed to a Romney win.

Interesting stuff.
 
same polling companies that said he had no path to victory
 
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