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Last Night in Sweden

AlbqOwl said:
They say Trump lies when he gets facts wrong. I wonder if they apply the same standard to themselves?
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As I'm sure you know, standards are always for the other guy.
 
DamnYankee said:
What question? The one about the left wanting to criminalize speech? I believe I answered that question. Yes, they would if they could.
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Im a part of the left and I dont want to criminalize speech... And isnt the ACLU often thought as "left" and havent they sided on the side of free speech when hate speech cases are brought up?

In some cases they have fired people from jobs, harassed school children for their belief in Christ, threatened to jail people over their political beliefs.
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For ****s sake you really really love to live in a world of basic generalizations.. Black and white and literally no shades of grey.

And in Europe I believe Wilders was prosecuted for his his free speech.
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And we aint Europe bud and Europe isnt a collective political ideology.

And you want to argue "flag burning?" LOL no comparison.
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Flag burning isnt protected under the first amendment?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Isnt Trump the one that declared the press "the enemy of the American people"? Oh yeeeaaaaaaaaaa
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Yes he did and he is spot on. Any group with that much power to control the message and who is determined to destroy a lawfully elected President of the United States no matter how much that will hurt the country/people is an enemy of the people.
 
Lutherf said:
As I'm sure you know, standards are always for the other guy.
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It would seem so. Anything he says that is not carefully scripted, precisely worded with all I's dotted and all T's crossed and 100% literally accurate in the most minute detail is a LIE making him a LIAR.

But if THEY get something wrong, it is an inadvertent misspeak or exaggeration for effect, or remembering a fact wrong or an incomplete thought and not anything to condemn them for.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Yes he did and he is spot on. Any group with that much power to control the message and who is determined to destroy a lawfully elected President of the United States no matter how much that will hurt the country/people is an enemy of the people.
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Really buying into that bull**** now arent cha? "Anything that dissents is the enemy!"
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Really buying into that bull**** now arent cha? "Anything that dissents is the enemy!"
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No. In all free societies dissent is legitimate and sometimes noble. But when the motive is to destroy somebody who has every right to be who or what he/she is, and they use obviously unethical means to it no matter how many people can get hurt, that is not dissent. That is anarchy in its most hateful and destructive form. And especially when it is the media with power to control the message doing it, it is extremely dangerous for everything we believe in as Americans.
 
AlbqOwl said:
No. In all free societies dissent is legitimate and sometimes noble. But when the motive is to destroy somebody who has every right to be who or what he/she is, and they use obviously unethical means to it, that is not dissent. That is anarchy in its most hateful and destructive form. And especially when it is the media with power to control the message doing it, it is extremely dangerous for everything we believe in as Americans.
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Sounds like you are saying freedom of the press is something that we as Americans should see as dangerous. In other words anything that does not suck the tit of Trump and questions his message and statements and also calls him out for his bull**** is the enemy.
 
Its rather funny watching leftists do anything and everything they can to avoid the fact that last night in Sweden Muslims rioted, attacked cops, and burned **** to the ground. Maybe Trump WAS able to see the future. Or maybe he just spoke on a real world ongoing problem in Sweden caused by a mass influx of violent Muslims. and these are apparently the 'good' ones.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Sounds like you are saying freedom of the press is something that we as Americans should see as dangerous. In other words anything that does not suck the tit of Trump and questions his message and statements and also calls him out for his bull**** is the enemy.
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Well you need to get your ears checked because what it sounds like to you sure isn't what I said. As for the rest of your rather vulgar and ugly characterization, I generally don't respond to that kind of silliness.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Im a part of the left and I dont want to criminalize speech... And isnt the ACLU often thought as "left" and havent they sided on the side of free speech when hate speech cases are brought up?
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And yet you attempt to deflect the actions of the left by making accuses for their violence, nice.


For ****s sake you really really love to live in a world of basic generalizations.. Black and white and literally no shades of grey.
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Everything to you is grey, what's your point? See, you get all pissy because you hate people being black and white on issues. Why can't the left just relax and be thankful we have free speech instead of harassing and using violence to stop free speech?

And we aint Europe bud and Europe isnt a collective political ideology.
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Yes, thankfully. But if the left could force us to be just like them, they would.

Flag burning isnt protected under the first amendment?
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Did I say it was?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Really sticking with some of those alternative facts there arent cha?
But again you didnt answer my question(s)
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He wont. He will simply dance all around the issue without answering the question. It is what typical phony hard right conservatives do.
 
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