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Tons of good paying jobs open due to protests

Risky Thicket said:
I'll bet if the people with good paying jobs and good benefits went to work.
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nope there were a lot of people that went protesting and all across the country there were a lot of people fired.
 
Risky Thicket said:
So all those great paying jobs that Trump promised are $8 an hour and no benefits?
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prove all those jobs were 8 dollars an hour and no benefits first.
plus these were jobs that were already there before trump so your argument fails on that as well.
 
GottaGo said:
When 12-18 members of your staff 'take a single day off', depending on the size of the business, that could shut a company down for a day. Product not made, angry clients, overhead to be paid.

Apparently, you are of the mind that the business exists to give people jobs. Most don't.

From what I've read on this story, several had been employed there for a couple of years, so either the were okay with the pay, or didn't want to look for another job. They were told not to take the day off... that doesn't mean they didn't have days they could take off, it means, for whatever reason the employer need them there that day, and they decided to do it anyway.

Their actions show a complete disregard for the employer, and most employers do not have the time nor income to spend on people who have that attitude.
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it appears that most of these businesses were small or medium size businesses.
they had deadlines and customers to attend to.

all have said it had nothing to do with politics but the fact they didn't call into work to take the day off.
the owner of the restaurant said he would have shut down for the day had they called but they didn't.

others couldn't afford to give the day off as they had orders to fill and needed work done.
you don't call into work you get fired pretty much all companies work that way.
 
ludin said:
Well if anything new jobs have opened up to people that want them due to protests.
some employees decided that protesting was more important than their jobs.

Business owners stand by decision to fire protesters - CNN.com

some businesses owners said their businesses were more important than them protesting
and the protestors were fired.

i hope it was worth it. i doubt their families think so now.

this is just an example from around the country.
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If they were hiring illegal immigrants for the job, likely it wasn't "good paying" at all.
 
Ikari said:
If they were hiring illegal immigrants for the job, likely it wasn't "good paying" at all.
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you are making assumptions. nothing says they were illegals or anything else.
 
Ikari said:
If they were hiring illegal immigrants for the job, likely it wasn't "good paying" at all.
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From my sphere of expertise, illegals working in the skilled construction business are making good money. Of course our economy here in Texas is booming.
 
ludin said:
you are making assumptions. nothing says they were illegals or anything else.
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Perhaps, but I think you too are making an assumption that these are "good paying" jobs. Maybe a few out of the bunch, but I fail to believe one would have endangered a "good paying job" for this. It seems like a "good paying job" will likely have time off or such, and one could at the very least call in if they planned on skipping. But whatever, if they didn't and they got fired, so long as the termination is legal then there's not much to be done about it.

Still there may be blowback against the termination as well, so we'll see how it all pans out in the end.
 
ludin said:
nope there were a lot of people that went protesting and all across the country there were a lot of people fired.
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What percentage or what number were making living wages with benefits?
 
ludin said:
prove all those jobs were 8 dollars an hour and no benefits first.
plus these were jobs that were already there before trump so your argument fails on that as well.
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I am asking you. You are the one who stated they had good paying jobs. I asked what constitutes "good paying jobs". In truth you don't know how many people people lost their jobs as a result of not working to protest. Moreover you don't know and in fact no one knows the salaries or wages of most of the people who lost their jobs. Suggesting that they lost "good paying jobs" may in fact be fake news. I did ask the question "What is a good paying job?"

It was suggested any job is good paying job compared to no job at all. Is $8 an hour and no benefits a good paying job?
 
ludin said:
you are making assumptions. nothing says they were illegals or anything else.
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You were the one making the initial assumption in that these people had "good paying jobs."
 
Risky Thicket said:
I am asking you. You are the one who stated they had good paying jobs. I asked what constitutes "good paying jobs". In truth you don't know how many people people lost their jobs as a result of not working to protest. Moreover you don't know and in fact no one knows the salaries or wages of most of the people who lost their jobs. Suggesting that they lost "good paying jobs" may in fact be fake news. I did ask the question "What is a good paying job?"

It was suggested any job is good paying job compared to no job at all. Is $8 an hour and no benefits a good paying job?
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Any job, even the $8/hr with no benefits is a good paying job compared to no job at all.

And a little over 20 years ago I learned in job corp that a brick layer could make anywhere from 10-15 dollars an hour depending on experience. I'd imagine that pay has gone up a bit since then.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Right, because "good jobs" are the sort that don't give you any time off and fire people as easily as flushing the toilet.

Dude, why do you think these people decided to protest despite the threats? Clearly they didn't think they had anything substantial to lose. And if my memory serves from my days of crap jobs, they're absolutely right.

The sorts of jobs that would fire someone for taking a single day off are easy come, easy go.
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Actually lots of people have decent jobs that would involve them AND SMALL GROUP OF COWORKERS to up and leave a job. One person can be covered. Maybe two. But some of these businesses had to shut down for the day because of a few selfish individuals.
 
ludin said:
Well if anything new jobs have opened up to people that want them due to protests.
some employees decided that protesting was more important than their jobs.

Business owners stand by decision to fire protesters - CNN.com

some businesses owners said their businesses were more important than them protesting
and the protestors were fired.

i hope it was worth it. i doubt their families think so now.

this is just an example from around the country.
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If in doubt-throw them out!! Yes I believe protestors should be fired. Of course I expect that businesses that wouldn't are run by people suffering TURDs (Trump Unacceptance and Resistance Disorder)
 
Kal'Stang said:
Any job, even the $8/hr with no benefits is a good paying job compared to no job at all.

And a little over 20 years ago I learned in job corp that a brick layer could make anywhere from 10-15 dollars an hour depending on experience. I'd imagine that pay has gone up a bit since then.
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Most any job is better than no job. But many jobs are not good paying jobs.
 
jdog said:
How would you know? You watch them?
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Quick internet search. Took 2 minutes to find articles from The Blaze and WND. Another minute yielded Fox.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I am asking you. You are the one who stated they had good paying jobs. I asked what constitutes "good paying jobs". In truth you don't know how many people people lost their jobs as a result of not working to protest. Moreover you don't know and in fact no one knows the salaries or wages of most of the people who lost their jobs. Suggesting that they lost "good paying jobs" may in fact be fake news. I did ask the question "What is a good paying job?"

It was suggested any job is good paying job compared to no job at all. Is $8 an hour and no benefits a good paying job?
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So you can't prove they were making 8 dollars and hour and no benefits. So why did you argue that they were?
 
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Risky Thicket said:
You were the one making the initial assumption in that these people had "good paying jobs."
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Yep brick layers do make good money more so if they are skilled at the job. Good brick layers are hard to find.
Same with boat haul workers. That is a skilled labor position. Even here in fl they pay 15 or so bucks an hour starting off.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Any job, even the $8/hr with no benefits is a good paying job compared to no job at all.

And a little over 20 years ago I learned in job corp that a brick layer could make anywhere from 10-15 dollars an hour depending on experience. I'd imagine that pay has gone up a bit since then.
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Yeah according to pay scale a skilled brick layer can average 24 bucks an hour.
A fiber glass boat layer can earn 15 bucks or so.
 
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TurtleDude said:
If in doubt-throw them out!! Yes I believe protestors should be fired. Of course I expect that businesses that wouldn't are run by people suffering TURDs (Trump Unacceptance and Resistance Disorder)
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I have no problem if an employee wants to protest and lets their employer know and
They are allowed. In this case none of them called into work.

They were scheduled and just didn't show.

A no show at any job is a dismissal even in corporations.
 
ludin said:
I have no problem if an employee wants to protest and lets their employer know and
They are allowed. In this case none of them called into work.

They were scheduled and just didn't show.

A no show at any job is a dismissal even in corporations.
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again, those who are doing this mainly work, i suspect, for a snowflake
 
TurtleDude said:
again, those who are doing this mainly work, i suspect, for a snowflake
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Nope their bosses in some cases warned them of the consequences.
They had business to do and tight deadlines and couldn't afford people to take off work.

They did so and they were fired.
 
ludin said:
Now they are making 0 so I bet it was a good paying job.
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So I guess then there is no such thing as a bad-paying job?
 
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