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code1211 said:

You seemed to be upset with the process employed by Trump to people his administration's posts. As a contrast in the process, Obama chose Hillary and we suffered the results. Trump chose Tillerson. One is a political reward and the other is an appointee with a ridiculously overqualified resume and a record of astounding international achievement. I asked only one question of you in my post and you seem to have missed it. I'll try again: "what process would YOU use to populate the positions most important to your success if you had attained a similar position?"

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LOL, again you dodge the obvious- 'Feudalism' is alive and well with this President. Pure and simple.

Tillerson- can't say he is overqualified- running a corporation vs a diplomatic agency are two different animals. many CEOs don't do gubmint very well. We shall see.

Now let's start about what I wouldn't do-

I wouldn't rush to put loyalists into powerful positions without a proper vetting process- Flynn should never had made it. Puzder never should have been nominated. Because of Bobby Kennedy we now have new rules for family in administrations. I find it very difficult to believe his family will be a blind trust for him (the Donald doesn't do hands off on anything) I don't see his SiL as an sort of expert on policy. I wouldn't pick a state attorney general who sued an agency 20 some times to HEAD it. Rick Perry would NEVER head an agency he couldn't even name in a debate.

What I do note is far from draining the swamp Trump seems to be bringing new species that have done quite well for themselves in other swamps... eace

MaggieD said:

THEATRICS. In what way?

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Theatrics as in they don't actually do anything.

code1211 said:

There are, I think, US munitions being used there.

However, the Russians are there and the Syrian Regime (a Russian ally) and the rebels and ISIS. They all seem to be working pretty hard to do damage. It's a really bad, complicated situation.

Are they all using exclusively the arms of the US?

The immigration order did not mention a religion as I understand it, but I have not read the thing. The courts issued a stay because they thought that it must mean what they conjured it to mean. I don't understand or agree with the Courts creating meanings where those meanings don't exist. It is done, though.

A new EO will issued shortly, as I understand it, and we'll see what the courts do with this.

Despite the best efforts of the best law enforcement agencies of the entire world, the acts of Islamic terror continue. In the link below, it looks like 2016 may have shown a reduction from 2015, but still quite a bit. Some acts that have witnesses who report the perpetrator yelling, "Allah Ak-bar", but who cannot be specifically linked to a particular radical group are therefore not listed in all cases.

There is a problem, but the refugees are only a by-product of the problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

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Yes, the Russians got there because we could not seem to find ISIS for a few years with our bombs. We kept hitting hospitals and residences, instead of ISIS oil tankers, and the Russians had to come in to get the job done, which they did, just as Putin said they would, at the UN.

Yes, they are a byproduct of our weapon use.

notquiteright said:

LOL, again you dodge the obvious- 'Feudalism' is alive and well with this President. Pure and simple.

Tillerson- can't say he is overqualified- running a corporation vs a diplomatic agency are two different animals. many CEOs don't do gubmint very well. We shall see.

Now let's start about what I wouldn't do-

I wouldn't rush to put loyalists into powerful positions without a proper vetting process- Flynn should never had made it. Puzder never should have been nominated. Because of Bobby Kennedy we now have new rules for family in administrations. I find it very difficult to believe his family will be a blind trust for him (the Donald doesn't do hands off on anything) I don't see his SiL as an sort of expert on policy. I wouldn't pick a state attorney general who sued an agency 20 some times to HEAD it. Rick Perry would NEVER head an agency he couldn't even name in a debate.

What I do note is far from draining the swamp Trump seems to be bringing new species that have done quite well for themselves in other swamps... eace

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He is doing it differently.

That's about all anyone who was watching would have expected.

I like the idea of inserting someone into an agency that is overreaching in order to reign it in. Do you want another tree hugging zealot to flaunt due process and oppress the population? You know, like under Obama.

Feudalism was practiced as a way to guarantee loyalty and was based on the award of land for privilege. the monarch demanded military service and support in exchange. This is what the political parties have practiced for years.

Trump did not go begging for donations and was not beholding to the donor class as has been every other politician in my lifetime.

He is also not beholding to the party, either one, or to any of the nation's various and corrupt political machines.

In what way do you think the activities of Trump are reflective of feudalism? his actions don't seem to have any parallels with Feudalism.

Thoreau72 said:

Yes, the Russians got there because we could not seem to find ISIS for a few years with our bombs. We kept hitting hospitals and residences, instead of ISIS oil tankers, and the Russians had to come in to get the job done, which they did, just as Putin said they would, at the UN.

Yes, they are a byproduct of our weapon use.

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And of the weapons of others as well?

I seem to recall that the war was under way and our President was reluctant to engage. He employed another of his famous "Red Lines" to absolutely scare them to death. I think that was in the fall of 2012.

About a year before that, the Syrian Civil war was under way. Russia, as a Syrian ally was supporting the Syrians from the start with military aide and in 2015 actually joined the fray.

I'm not sure what facts you are thinking of.

Obama’s Blurry Red Line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

code1211 said:

And of the weapons of others as well?

I seem to recall that the war was under way and our President was reluctant to engage. He employed another of his famous "Red Lines" to absolutely scare them to death. I think that was in the fall of 2012.

About a year before that, the Syrian Civil war was under way. Russia, as a Syrian ally was supporting the Syrians from the start with military aide and in 2015 actually joined the fray.

I'm not sure what facts you are thinking of.

Obama’s Blurry Red Line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

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Yes, that's the way I remember it. Barack was playing checkers, Vlad was playing chess. Barack was doing what he was told to do, but with insufficient enthusiasm in certain eyes, even as Vlad took his case to the UN and a world audience.

Syrian Civil War? Those mercenaries we supported were doing our bidding and Israel's bidding. It wasn't a civil war, it was a deliberate effort to destabilize Syria, overthrow Assad, and claim the spoils, just as we have done in so many other countries around the world. Overthrowing governments and committing military aggression is how we roll, 60 some odd years after we overthrew Mossadegh and installed the Shah.

Thoreau72 said:

Yes, that's the way I remember it. Barack was playing checkers, Vlad was playing chess. Barack was doing what he was told to do, but with insufficient enthusiasm in certain eyes, even as Vlad took his case to the UN and a world audience.

Syrian Civil War? Those mercenaries we supported were doing our bidding and Israel's bidding. It wasn't a civil war, it was a deliberate effort to destabilize Syria, overthrow Assad, and claim the spoils, just as we have done in so many other countries around the world. Overthrowing governments and committing military aggression is how we roll, 60 some odd years after we overthrew Mossadegh and installed the Shah.

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You seem to have taken leave of reality on this topic.

There are American soldiers buried around the world in countries that are thriving, independent world powers. You can start in Europe and work around the world from there.

The countries that have been overthrown and set up with puppet leaders have been the signature leave-behinds of every major world power since Alexander the Great. Are you familiar with Ptolemaic Egypt? Nothing new here.

The new twist placed on this age old technique by 20th America is that the Puppets are not always obedient. It's happened with Russia, though, as well. Tito was a thorn in their side for years.

The newest approach to colonialism employed by Obama is to overthrow the current government, abandon the population and allow the tortured masses to twist in the wind like so many abandoned, hanged corpses being scavenged by the local predators.

Japan and Germany are two of the most notable victims of American Colonialism. For good measure you could throw in the rest of Europe, the Middle East, the East, the Far East and the Pacific.

South and Central America were never conquered by the USA. If they had been, they would probably be super powers by now.