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The Student Left's Culture of Intolerance Is Creating New Conservatives

Henrin said:
What am I doing to them that shows hate for being who they are? lol. Are you getting confused over hating a choice and disagreeing with a preference with hating transgender people for being who they are ACTUALLY are.
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OK so you're not going to justify your hate. You're going to expect me to just tolerate it, just because you're right and I'm wrong. Got it.

Meanwhile, when did you discover that you were straight? How do you know it wasn't just a phase you were going through, that you've simply been socialized all your life to be attracted only to women?
 
Phys251 said:
OK so you're not going to justify your hate. You're going to expect me to just tolerate it, just because you're right and I'm wrong. Got it.
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You factually are wrong.

Meanwhile, when did you discover that you were straight? How do you know it wasn't just a phase you were going through, that you've simply been socialized all your life to be attracted only to women?
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When I was in preschool, I guess. Might have been before that, but I only remember as far back as preschool. What does this have to do with anything? Did I say something about gays somewhere? Do you realize transgenderism and homosexuality are not the same thing?
 
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Henrin said:
You factually are wrong.
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Prove it. Without the use of alternative facts.

When I was in preschool, I guess. Might have been before that, but I only remember as far back as preschool. What does this have to do with anything? Did I say something about gays somewhere? Do you realize transgenderism and homosexuality are not the same thing?
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OK so you're confident that you are who you are when it comes to your preferences? Now, do you think it's the same for gays? (Yes, I said gays. Stay with me here.)
 
Phys251 said:
Prove it. Without the use of alternative facts.
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What would you like to go over exactly?

OK so you're confident that you are who you are when it comes to your preferences? Now, do you think it's the same for gays? (Yes, I said gays. Stay with me here.)
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Yeah. Get to the point.
 
Henrin said:
What would you like to go over exactly?

Yeah. Get to the point.
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Good! Next, I presume that you've known that you're a male for some time, right? Have you been confused about this, or are you uncertain about this fact from time to time?
 
Phys251 said:
Good! Next, I presume that you've known that you're a male for some time, right? Have you been confused about this, or are you uncertain about this fact from time to time?
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I see, so you're going with the idea that because they see themselves as the opposite sex that they are in fact the opposite sex. Sorry, but that is wrong.
 
Henrin said:
I see, so you're going with the idea that because they see themselves as the opposite sex that they are in fact the opposite sex. Sorry, but that is wrong.
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Now wait a minute, you were doing well. So let's take it one at a time: I presume that you've known that you're a male for some time, right?
 
joG said:
Bad news for gay marriage and Roe vs Wade?
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gay marriage? unlikely, Roe v Wade is a decision of the courts and that could be overturned if another SCOTUS decision is issued, I do believe it's inevitable that abortion will once again be restricted in more conservative areas of the country and allowed in the more liberal areas. overall public support for both fringes of that issue is very low, but some regulation of legal abortion is a widely popular opinion.

Gay marriage has been more accepted over time then abortion on demand has been, I feel that battle is won for good.
 
Phys251 said:
They. Are. Not. Looking. For. That. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

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As i said i have nothing against that community. I have many freinds and family that are apart of it. I think they deservedly so have more objections to my lifstyle choices than i do theirs. (Im a lil wild) what we all share is mutual respect for one another and our choices. This is something some can not seem to do.

If your a gay person and you try to hire someone to take pictures or bake a cake for your wedding, find someone else to do it. If your a transgender, dont expect to be able to use any bathroom of your choice. Dont expect special treatment let alone demand laws be made to coerse people into complying.

Its as absurd as a straight male to go into a gay bar and getting upset over other men hitting on him and running out to get a cop to have those people arrested. If that behavior bothers you go to a straight bar

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Phys251 said:
Now wait a minute, you were doing well. So let's take it one at a time: I presume that you've known that you're a male for some time, right?
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That doesn't mean anything to the argument. You seem to believe that your thought processes on who you are is the same thing as what you actually are. I'm sorry, but that's not how it works.
 
Henrin said:
That doesn't mean anything to the argument. You seem to believe that your thought processes on who you are is the same thing as what you actually are. I'm sorry, but that's not how it works.
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On that I agree.
 
Henrin said:
That doesn't mean anything to the argument. You seem to believe that your thought processes on who you are is the same thing as what you actually are. I'm sorry, but that's not how it works.
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Now wait a minute. You were doing so well until now. Are you suggesting that your belief that you are a male might be questionable? And for the record, I 100% believe you that you are--a courtesy that you seem to be unwilling to extend to everyone else. So, strictly for the sake of this discussion, is your belief that you are a male questionable?
 
Phys251 said:
Now wait a minute. You were doing so well until now. Are you suggesting that your belief that you are a male might be questionable? And for the record, I 100% believe you that you are--a courtesy that you seem to be unwilling to extend to everyone else. So, strictly for the sake of this discussion, is your belief that you are a male questionable?
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No, there is no reason to expect that I'm not biologically male. Transgenders are not in fact the sex they claim to be according to biological fact. Why does that bother you?
 
Chomsky said:
I can't get past the article's paywall, but while I'm pretty liberal myself I think a bit of conservatism on college campuses is a good thing.

No one ideology has a lock on knowledge & truth ...
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A bit off topic but today I was reading an old (1994) sermon from a Unitarian church in Florida. Unitarians tend to be very liberal today and they always have been but in the sermon they were talking about 180 years ago people like Daniel Webster and John C Calhoun could be friends and could discuss rationally despite being in total disagreement on some things, let alone the relatively minor disagreements we have today. Maybe this is my own bias but a 3 month ban on 7 countries or locker room talk doesn't seem quite as important as being pro-slavery. Calhoun was a founder of the All Saints (Unitarian) Church in Washington D.C. Now we seem to dehumanize anyone with opposing views.
 
Phys251 said:
In other words, some conservatives are easily triggered and run to their safe spaces where their racism can be celebrated.
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The above post is an example of the absurdity to which college liberalism has fallen. It began in the 1960s with a real cause in the Vietnam War. Then the protests were valid and the hippies and flower children were cute. Now their mindless name calling and violent intolerance are not so cute. They have destroyed any credibility liberalism might have had. Time for them to retire.
 
JohnPaul said:
The above post is an example of the absurdity to which college liberalism has fallen. It began in the 1960s with a real cause in the Vietnam War. Then the protests were valid and the hippies and flower children were cute. Now their mindless name calling and violent intolerance are not so cute. They have destroyed any credibility liberalism might have had. Time for them to retire.
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I am sorry that you feel that way.
 
nota bene said:
This is a very simplistic view. As a member of the Academy myself, my belief is that diversity of opinions and ideas is what encourages robust critical thinking.

Not allowing invited guests of a university to speak, Milos Y, for example, is NOT going to nurture what is needed.
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I agree with your sentiment, but I would point out a humorous paradox.

The Lefties extreme measure to try to shut down the free speech of Milos Y will make him into a common household known name and cause. In their efforts to silence him to speak to a few hundred at any given public venue, they cause his words to be heard by 10s of Million on the Internet!

Be careful what you wish for...

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Kurmugeon said:
I agree with your sentiment, but I would point out a humorous paradox.

The Lefties extreme measure to try to shut down the free speech of Milos Y will make him into a common household known name and cause. In their efforts to silence him to speak to a few hundred at any given public venue, they cause his words to be heard by 10s of Million on the Internet!

Be careful what you wish for...

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I find it fascinating that the left is so worried about Milos converting people. Antics of the left elected Trump as president and you are exactly right that the antics of the left are giving Milos a far bigger audience than just letting him speak.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
gay marriage? unlikely, Roe v Wade is a decision of the courts and that could be overturned if another SCOTUS decision is issued, I do believe it's inevitable that abortion will once again be restricted in more conservative areas of the country and allowed in the more liberal areas. overall public support for both fringes of that issue is very low, but some regulation of legal abortion is a widely popular opinion.

Gay marriage has been more accepted over time then abortion on demand has been, I feel that battle is won for good.
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I was thinking more about bringing the two more into line with Constitutional limits.
 
Moderate Right said:
I find it fascinating that the left is so worried about Milos converting people. Antics of the left elected Trump as president and you are exactly right that the antics of the left are giving Milos a far bigger audience than just letting him speak.
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It has been my observation that EVIL is often self-defeating.

One of the tests you can make, to see if your distaste for a political this or that, is actually seeing it for the Evil you suspect, or just a pet-peave, is look for self-defeating aspects of its nature.


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