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Vetplus40

Vetplus40

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If you are an "extremist", "hater", "Kool-Aid drinker", etc., please pass this discussion by. Thanks.:)

I always vote. As US citizen, I believe its not just a privilege, but an obligation and a responsibility. By way of background, I have never, and likely never will, vote a straight ticket. That said, I struggled with this election more than I have any other. I voted for Clinton the first go-around, and then opted for Ross Perot. Had there been a decent third party candidate this time, I would have gone in that direction.

The above being said, does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.

Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
 
Vetplus40 said:
If you are an "extremist", "hater", "Kool-Aid drinker", etc., please pass this discussion by. Thanks.:)

I always vote. As US citizen, I believe its not just a privilege, but an obligation and a responsibility. By way of background, I have never, and likely never will, vote a straight ticket. That said, I struggled with this election more than I have any other. I voted for Clinton the first go-around, and then opted for Ross Perot. Had there been a decent third party candidate this time, I would have gone in that direction.

The above being said, does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.

Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
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There's been no candidate that I could enthusiastically endorse since I've been of voting age.
 
Vetplus40 said:
...does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.
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I tried to find my old post on Trump being from New York City but the "Advanced Search" won't help me. Short story; what many people find odd and quirky about his personality is pretty typical of many residents of NYC.

Having spent 1/4 of my life growing up and living there, while I do wince at some of his irascible tweets (when exposed to them here and in the media) I still find I am somewhat more tolerant than the average non-New Yorker American of his antics.

Vetplus40 said:
Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
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The travel ban is only a "debacle" because people who oppose his policy have made it out to be so. I personally agree with the temporary ban, although I would have held off until I had briefed my agency heads and given them a timeline to prepare for enforcement before signing off on the order. He did act too fast in that respect.

As for a senior advisor resigning? I don't know that he did anything criminal..."lying to the VP" in a conversation is not a Federal crime that I am aware of. :confused:

Still, made more of an issue than it should be simply because of the activism against the President, especially since the gentleman took responsibility and resigned.

I am not so lost in propaganda that I have given up on letting the man have a real chance to do what he promised. Most especially since it is "only a few weeks into this administration."

Given the choices? I do not regret voting for him. :coffeepap:
 
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Vetplus40 said:
If you are an "extremist", "hater", "Kool-Aid drinker", etc., please pass this discussion by. Thanks.:)

I always vote. As US citizen, I believe its not just a privilege, but an obligation and a responsibility. By way of background, I have never, and likely never will, vote a straight ticket. That said, I struggled with this election more than I have any other. I voted for Clinton the first go-around, and then opted for Ross Perot. Had there been a decent third party candidate this time, I would have gone in that direction.

The above being said, does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.

Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
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I didn't vote for Trump (I voted 3rd Party, although I did consider voting for him at one point), but I was still willing to give him a chance after he won the election. I've tried to stay as optimistic as possible about a Trump presidency, and try to look at the good that might come of it. I didn't get behind the "Abolish the Electoral College!" and the recount hoopla either.

However, my optimism has waned considerably ever since he took office. And it's been barely a month since he's been inaugurated. I probably should have seen this coming, but maybe I just didn't want to see it. Oh well. I'm still holding out hope. Maybe Trump will pull a giant 180 and end up impressing me. Probably not, but here's hopin'.
 
There seems to be this great desire among many to hear Trump voters say that they regret voting for him. Why is that?
 
X Factor said:
There seems to be this great desire among many to hear Trump voters say that they regret voting for him. Why is that?
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Extracting "buyers remorse" is not the purpose of my post. Gathering differing opinions is. Have you anything to add?
 
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There seems to be this great desire among many to hear Trump voters say that they regret voting for him. Why is that?
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Mostly because there's a degree of wishful thinking that people don't actually fervently support a man who insults POWs and the families of war heroes and who thinks he "knows more than the generals".
 
To me, the travel ban constitutes a "debacle" in the fact that it wasn't vetted or implemented properly. To me, the whole situation is compounded by the fact that he simply refuses to admit he made a mistake. It is very hard to respect an individual (even the President) who doesn't seem to have any humility whatsoever. At least that is how it seems to me.
 
Vetplus40 said:
If you are an "extremist", "hater", "Kool-Aid drinker", etc., please pass this discussion by. Thanks.:)

I always vote. As US citizen, I believe its not just a privilege, but an obligation and a responsibility. By way of background, I have never, and likely never will, vote a straight ticket. That said, I struggled with this election more than I have any other. I voted for Clinton the first go-around, and then opted for Ross Perot. Had there been a decent third party candidate this time, I would have gone in that direction.

The above being said, does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.

Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
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Why would you want him to act Polish?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Mostly because there's a degree of wishful thinking that people don't actually fervently support a man who insults POWs and the families of war heroes and who thinks he "knows more than the generals".
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And he was still less reprehensible than Hillary.
 
Vetplus40 said:
If you are an "extremist", "hater", "Kool-Aid drinker", etc., please pass this discussion by. Thanks.:)

I always vote. As US citizen, I believe its not just a privilege, but an obligation and a responsibility. By way of background, I have never, and likely never will, vote a straight ticket. That said, I struggled with this election more than I have any other. I voted for Clinton the first go-around, and then opted for Ross Perot. Had there been a decent third party candidate this time, I would have gone in that direction.

The above being said, does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.

Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
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Im not a kool aide drinker but i did vote for trump because i think he will be a good potus not because i did not like clinton. If she won she would of been more of the same but not the horror many on the right seem to think. I felt that trump was the better choice

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Tigerace117 said:
Mostly because there's a degree of wishful thinking that people don't actually fervently support a man who insults POWs and the families of war heroes and who thinks he "knows more than the generals".
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Well, first there would have to be a shred of truth related to these fabricated memes the left's MSM created. Since there isn't, and they were just dog whistles for the target audience, such wishful thinking is really just a waste of energy.
 
ocean515 said:
Well, first there would have to be a shred of truth related to these fabricated memes the left's MSM created. Since there isn't, and they were just dog whistles for the target audience, such wishful thinking is really just a waste of energy.
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I hate to break it to you buddy, but Donald Trump did say those things.
 
Vetplus40 said:
If you are an "extremist", "hater", "Kool-Aid drinker", etc., please pass this discussion by. Thanks.:)

I always vote. As US citizen, I believe its not just a privilege, but an obligation and a responsibility. By way of background, I have never, and likely never will, vote a straight ticket. That said, I struggled with this election more than I have any other. I voted for Clinton the first go-around, and then opted for Ross Perot. Had there been a decent third party candidate this time, I would have gone in that direction.

The above being said, does anybody that voted for Trump, or strongly considered voting for Trump (and wants him to succeed) wish that he would start acting with a little more "polish" and in a presidential manner?. His constant scowl and hyperbole is just hard for me to stomach day in and day out. I honestly try to stay positive, but it is getting harder every day.

Every new administration has its struggles and I get that. However, we are only a few weeks into this administration and we have had a debacle with the travel ban, the forced resignation of a senior advisor and yet Trump says his administration "is running like a fine tuned machine". I know there are many intelligent folks that are out there in support of Trump or want to support him. How do you see what is transpiring? And no, I don't buy into the media bias. I do my own fact checking.
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I think its in poor taste to ask anyone to by pass a thread in this forum. I don't think it helps much anyway, not much you can do about it. In fact I bet it encourages more than it hinders. Just my 2 cents. I voted Clinton as I thought trump was a dangerous egomaniac with no real interest in actually governing. I was right.
 
Tigerace117 said:
I hate to break it to you buddy, but Donald Trump did say those things.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but he didn't insult POW's, he didn't insult families of war heroes, and you bought the out of context BS the left's MSM partners made up regarding his generals comments.

Again, this wishful thinking is just a waste of energy. Illustrating how gullible people are shouldn't set the stage for continued emotional response.
 
Yes. I held my nose and voted for Trump.

Regardless of who it was, I enjoy the idea that "we the people" have given "the establishment" a smack across the face.

Our governing officials have turned their backs on us. They no longer have our overall interests in mind. Their sole concern is self-preservation. They pander to specific groups in exchange for votes. They make empty promises to stupid voters year after year. They pass laws that are designed to take from one group, to give to another (thus purchasing their future votes). They only enforce laws that afford no consequence against them, while ignoring those that would hurt their popularity. They introduce bills into congress, where only 10% of the bill pertains to the topic at hand. They pass unpopular laws that include loopholes granting them immunity from that very same law.

Hillary Clinton is the epitome of all of these things. I said it for the past two years...if it were between Hillary and a dead cat, the dead cat would have gotten my vote, as long as it counted against her.
 
ocean515 said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but he didn't insult POW's, he didn't insult families of war heroes, and you bought the out of context BS the left's MSM partners made up regarding his generals comments.

Again, this wishful thinking is just a waste of energy. Illustrating how gullible people are shouldn't set the stage for continued emotional response.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...120317&usg=AFQjCNG6R3o4BOOlJPAhzt1OjMC0COTD0g

Huh. And yet, he very clearly states "I like people who weren't captured."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...H1dFJHJutMi2fkG_hHRREQ&bvm=bv.147448319,d.amc

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...54eRURkurE9P9s2LkI5Umg&bvm=bv.147448319,d.amc

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...wJjvyOn7cB2VEvgY9I0p9A&bvm=bv.147448319,d.amc

And here he's pretty clearly going after the Khans.
 
reinoe said:
Then why is Trump president? Because more states found him less reprehensible than Hillary.
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And yet, nation wide more people in total found him more reprehensible than Hilary.
 
I have been not interested in politics since the Clinton Corp. 60 Minutes Monica interview.......till I noticed that Trump was interesting, on or about August 20 2015. By Sep 10th I was sold, I have been enthusiastically pro Trump since then. Till August my opinion of Trump was the conventional wisdom, and let me tell you, I thought that I was late in catching on.
 
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