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After Flynn's Resignation Surveillance Defenders Suddenly Care About Wiretap Abuse

Winston

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https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15...-defenders-suddenly-care-about-wiretap-abuse/

The surveillance-touting Wall Street Journal in an editorial Monday dropped its usual use of the term “intelligence professionals” to question whether “U.S. spooks” had a court order to listen to Flynn’s conversations.
What’s particularly ironic about Nunes’s comments was that he seemed to be ignoring one of the biggest gaps in U.S. surveillance law – one which he has personally defended — that allows the government to spy on millions of Americans without any sort of probable cause by targeting their communications with people overseas.

What's the republican position of the week on national security? I'm in a daze trying to keep up.

Edward Snowden's a traitor for exposing the massive surveillance state...

But, now we see outrage when it's turned against them..

Hey Rush Limbaugh, what's our position on wiretaps again? Okay.. Yep, Conditional on who they're wiretapping. If they're listening to someone with Muhammad in their name it's okay. But, if it's a Mike, we're against.. okay.. got it.
 
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What has been the rat position on Obama's use of surveillance over the last 8 years again? Tell us all about the loud rat voices in opposition to Obama's intel actions.
 
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What has been the rat position on Obama's use of surveillance over the last 8 years again? Tell us all about the loud rat voices in opposition to Obama's intel actions.

Exactly. After all, this was DONE on Obama's watch...
 
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What has been the rat position on Obama's use of surveillance over the last 8 years again? Tell us all about the loud rat voices in opposition to Obama's intel actions.

Didn't Snowden come out under Obama? Didn't it have something to do with Obama putting Patriot Act on steroids?
 
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What has been the rat position on Obama's use of surveillance over the last 8 years again? Tell us all about the loud rat voices in opposition to Obama's intel actions.

Dunno cuz I ain't one. I was a vocal opponent of the Patriot Act and every follow-on expansion of that sort of power.
 
Obama did a lot of things that I don't agree with. He extended the Bush Tax Cuts. He expanded the powers of the warrantless wire tapping and then passed it off to Trump. Democrats were so infused with hubris, they gave themselves more power, assuming they would retain the Executive Branch.

If Obama took Bushs policies and amped them up, why is there widespread criticism of him, for doing what a republican would do?

No, I'm no Obama fanatic. He's a corporate stooge. Like American said, he put the PatriotAct on steroids and then passed it off to the alt-right. The history books will tell you different, but I see him for who he is.


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What's the republican position of the week on national security? I'm in a daze trying to keep up.

Edward Snowden's a traitor for exposing the massive surveillance state...

But, now we see outrage when it's turned against them..

Hey Rush Limbaugh, what's our position on wiretaps again? Okay.. Yep, Conditional on who they're wiretapping. If they're listening to someone with Muhammad in their name it's okay. But, if it's a Mike, we're against.. okay.. got it.

What is your position on the government conducting illegal acts against citizens?

I oppose.
 
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Obama did a lot of things that I don't agree with. He extended the Bush Tax Cuts. He expanded the powers of the warrantless wire tapping and then passed it off to Trump. Democrats were so infused with hubris, they gave themselves more power, assuming they would retain the Executive Branch.

If Obama took Bushs policies and amped them up, why is there widespread criticism of him, for doing what a republican would do?

No, I'm no Obama fanatic. He's a corporate stooge. Like American said, he put the PatriotAct on steroids and then passed it off to the alt-right. The history books will tell you different, but I see him for who he is.


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But WHAT WAS THE RAT POSITION on OBAMAS use of enhanced surveillance techniques? Come on Winston...you can just admit it. Silence. Absolute silence. Vocal opponents of the Patriot act under Bush went silent even as Obama was stepping up the game. Vocal opponents of Bush's use of drones went silent as soon as it was Obama pushing the buttons. Your attempt at a smear thread looks pretty silly now...doesnt it?
 
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https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15...-defenders-suddenly-care-about-wiretap-abuse/



What's the republican position of the week on national security? I'm in a daze trying to keep up.

Edward Snowden's a traitor for exposing the massive surveillance state...

But, now we see outrage when it's turned against them..

Hey Rush Limbaugh, what's our position on wiretaps again? Okay.. Yep, Conditional on who they're wiretapping. If they're listening to someone with Muhammad in their name it's okay. But, if it's a Mike, we're against.. okay.. got it.

Oh get off of it.
 
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But WHAT WAS THE RAT POSITION on OBAMAS use of enhanced surveillance techniques? Come on Winston...you can just admit it. Silence. Absolute silence. Vocal opponents of the Patriot act under Bush went silent even as Obama was stepping up the game. Vocal opponents of Bush's use of drones went silent as soon as it was Obama pushing the buttons. Your attempt at a smear thread looks pretty silly now...doesnt it?

I wasn't silent. I'm not a democrat. Both sides are overly partisan. They use the NSA when it suits them and then moan about the ACLU when it doesn't suit them. Sooner or later people need to wake up to both sides being bought by special interests and stop pointing out Obamas shortcomings as justification for abuses of our 4th am. rights.


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What is your position on the government conducting illegal acts against citizens?

I oppose.

I oppose warrantless wiretapping.


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I oppose warrantless wiretapping.


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On the plus side now that we know that the elite have been illegally tapping the Rebellion the fact that transcripts of collusion with Putin have not shown up in the NYT's means that they dont exist.

I never doubted it but it is nice to have proof.
 
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https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15...-defenders-suddenly-care-about-wiretap-abuse/



What's the republican position of the week on national security? I'm in a daze trying to keep up.

Edward Snowden's a traitor for exposing the massive surveillance state...

But, now we see outrage when it's turned against them..

Hey Rush Limbaugh, what's our position on wiretaps again? Okay.. Yep, Conditional on who they're wiretapping. If they're listening to someone with Muhammad in their name it's okay. But, if it's a Mike, we're against.. okay.. got it.

Recording General Flynn's conversation was illegal. Releasing the wiretap information is a violation of The Espionage Act. These are facts.

You aren't outraged over this illegal activity?
 
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The answer to that question is in the 3 posts of trumpettees that follows yours and summed up in one word......OBAMA!!!!!!!

This is not Obama/Trump, nor Left/Right......this is the elite trying to sink Trump because he is in fact a traitor to his class.

This is what that gets.

Law be damned.
 
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On the plus side now that we know that the elite have been illegally tapping the Rebellion the fact that transcripts of collusion with Putin have not shown up in the NYT's means that they dont exist.

I never doubted it but it is nice to have proof.

Transcripts of trump collusion with Russia have not shown up YET!

Will GOP committees try to rhetorically shoot the messenger or search for the message?

Didn't trumputin used to love him some leaks ?
 
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Looks like the US had wiretaps on certain Russian officials.

If Flynn was calling a Russian official or anwering calls from a Russian official then his conversation was recorded .
 
Re: After Flynn's Resignation Surveillance Defenders Suddenly Care About Wiretap Abus

This is not Obama/Trump, nor Left/Right......this is the elite trying to sink Trump because he is in fact a traitor to his class.

This is what that gets.

Law be damned.


GOP intelligence committees have not proven that trump and BROS are traitors.

We're still waiting for the GOP lawmakers to do their jobs, which Rand Paul is against .
 
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Looks like the US had wiretaps on certain Russian officials.

If Flynn was calling a Russian official or anwering calls from a Russian official then his conversation was recorded .

Illegal without a court ordered wiretap warrant...
 
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Looks like the US had wiretaps on certain Russian officials.

If Flynn was calling a Russian official or anwering calls from a Russian official then his conversation was recorded .

When the agents determined that an American was on the line, they're required by law to stop recording.
 
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When the agents determined that an American was on the line, they're required by law to stop recording.

And scrub as much detail as possible...
 
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But WHAT WAS THE RAT POSITION on OBAMAS use of enhanced surveillance techniques? Come on Winston...you can just admit it. Silence. Absolute silence. Vocal opponents of the Patriot act under Bush went silent even as Obama was stepping up the game. Vocal opponents of Bush's use of drones went silent as soon as it was Obama pushing the buttons. Your attempt at a smear thread looks pretty silly now...doesnt it?

What's funny is all the criticism from the right has dried up. What's your position on Trump? Remove the plank from your own eye.
 
Re: After Flynn's Resignation Surveillance Defenders Suddenly Care About Wiretap Abus

This is not Obama/Trump, nor Left/Right......this is the elite trying to sink Trump because he is in fact a traitor to his class.

This is what that gets.

Law be damned.

So all those years being part of the elite, and Trump has suddenly changed sides? That's awfully naive of you to believe, but you are one of the loudest Trumpeteers here.
 
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And scrub as much detail as possible...

The big question, is what did Obama know about the illegal recordings.
 
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So all those years being part of the elite, and Trump has suddenly changed sides? That's awfully naive of you to believe, but you are one of the loudest Trumpeteers here.

Death Bed conversions happen all the time.
 
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