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Before Trump, Bannon ran the alt-right news haven Breitbart. Bannon could be heard on Breitbart, yammering away about a make believe immigrant crisis, often using fake statistics to prove a point. He once said that 3/4 of Silicon Valley CEO's were Asian. He dropped that on his radio show like it were some little nugget of horror. That's false. Notwithstanding being flat out wrong about immigrant levels in this country, he pushes the narrative that immigrants are somehow ruining opportunities for "real Americans" Like we all didn't come from immigrants anyway.. Bannon claims on his radio show that democracy is not in Muslim DNA. This is complete nonsense... the ramblings of a lunatic... naturally Trump noticed and well, hows the saying go, "misery loves company"

He was called to right the course of a tanking campaign.. filling a position once held by someone who assaulted a reporter on the campaign trail. (Lewandowski) Bannon pulled off the political upset and now has a seat on the National Security Council.. this is kind of an underdog story.. I'm trying to think of the name of the boxer, who came from the streets and then became a world champion.. for the analogy.. anyway.. Bannon is the most alarming thing to happen to government since Dick Cheney. He believes that a war between the east and west is foretold.. and Trump is so unstable.. It's the same crap that fundamentalist Christians think. Whether or not they'll admit it, they believe Muslims hate them and want to murder them. That's what fundamentalism does. It divorces you from reality.

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Mr Person said:

Less than half the popular vote and 3 million less than the opponent = minority. There's no "maybe" about it; this is just how numbers and English work.




(Don't bother responding with any silly voter fraud lies.)

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3 million dead people.....

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It will do my heart good to see the liberal rainbow unicorns in so much pain for the next 8 YEARS!

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Fenton said:

3 million Californians and New yorkers didnt do much for the Democrats over the last 6 years.
Dems lost 14 Governors, over 900 State Legislator seats, the House majority and the Senate majority.
But, the Democrats cannot get out of the way of their own stupid sometimes.
All those voters who rejected the Obama agenda over the last 6 years are watching this collective meltdown, and the thuggery coming from the " resistance "

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Your opinion of the success or failure of Democrats in general does not change what I said. I said this: Less than half the popular vote and 3 million less than the opponent = minority. There's no "maybe" about it; this is just how numbers and English work.

You cast doubt on whether Trump supporters were in the minority. "Minority" is an English word with a meaning in mathematics.

The subject matters too. For example, you would be missing the point just as successfully had you replied "oh yeah? Well Americans prefer Macintosh apples over Ultra Crisp Gala apples!"




Do keep up.

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The Democrats are going through the classic 5 stages of depression, The first went through the denial stage where they refused to admit Trump won, some are still struggling with it. Now most of them have moved on to the Anger stage as they throw tantrums and make wild assed accusations, this stage will probably last a few more months during which time Trump will employ his strategy to implement his agenda with the kind of skill that the no loads in Washington will be powerless to stop. By the end of the year, the pathetic Democrats will be realizing that Trump is making them irrelevant and that they are in danger with elections another year away. Then will come the 3rd stage of depression "bargaining" in which to the disbelief of their supporters the Democratic political whores will agree to deal with Trump in order to be able to claim they accomplished something during their term. Then will come the depression when the Democrats realize they are on the wrong side of almost every issue and have looked like fools and have lost all credibility. Finally the last stage of depression is acceptance as they come to grips with the fact that they have been wrong all along.

hehehehe.... This is so much fun.....

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Fenton said:

Lol ! Yup, nothing authortarian about what the " resistance " is doing right now. Violence, property damage, intimidation and celebrating judicial activism.

Also demanding the implementation of a rejected agenda, screw the people who voted to get rid of it, their votes can be tossed aside

Nothing authortarian about Bernie Sanders plans for unprecedented State intervention into the lives of American citizens either.

Leaks at the top levels of Govt to undermine the POTUS and his agenda, nope thats how Democracies function....Lol

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This post is right out of Trump's playbook: Try to get the crowd to focus on the doll....not the real issue.

Look at what's going on in the White House. Some serious stuff going on there. You should be very concerned.

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George50 said:

The ex-Breitbart executive, who serves as Trump's chief strategist for the new administration, told The Hollywood Reporter that "darkness is good."
"Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power.

Steve Bannon: 'Darkness is good' - CNNPolitics.com

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Isn't it fun to take these few words from an article, and taken from a very fuzzy context and written with unbelievably biased. There were actually very few quotes from the interview with Bannon. Most of the article was devoted to trashing him. The article had more opinion that anything else. And it was the opinion of someone who seemed to despise Bannon. Now, if you read the article, as I did, you would see that the context is not very clear as to who or what he was referring to with that phrase or what question was asked to illicit the response. Actually they don’t really mention any or very few questions that were asked of Bannon. No doubt intentially, because that would put any response into context. He was also quoted in the article, " I'm the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it's the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Shipyards, ironworks, get them all jacked up.” That doesn’t sound dark to me. I don’t see anyone running around saying “wow, isn’t that great, an adviser to the president is pushing ideas that will create lots of jobs”.

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Rule 13.

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions."

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MrPeanut said:

The article makes a very interesting point when it mentions that these "turns" generally have massive amounts of consensus among the people involved. It is important to understand that the people who support Trump are in the minority in America. I think Bannon may be suffering from years of living in the Breitbart bubble. He doesn't seem to understand that most people do not see this country as some sort of dystopian society that they must rally against. You'd think that seeing the amount of resistance against Trump since his inauguration would make him realize it isn't happening.

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Wikipedia: A dystopia (from the Greek δυσ- and τόπος, alternatively, cacotopia,[1] kakotopia, or simply anti-utopia) is a community or society that is undesirable or frightening.

I'm glad you agree that most people don't see our society as dystopian. But there is a minority of people that seem to agree with Bannon. Witness the hysteria from the women's march, protests at airports, protests by the entertainment industry at every awards event, the hysteria on "The View", ranting ads by TV personalities, rantings by Michael Moore, Rachael Madcow rants and dire warnings, riots against free speech on college campuses, angry protests when ICE is arresting law breakers and every media publication and network has story after story trashing anything that Trump does or says, right down to how he shakes hands. This small minority seems to think we have a society that is undesirable and frightening.

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Cvir said:

Wikipedia: A dystopia (from the Greek δυσ- and τόπος, alternatively, cacotopia,[1] kakotopia, or simply anti-utopia) is a community or society that is undesirable or frightening.
So what do you call all the hysteria from the women's march, protests at airports, protests by the entertainment industry at every awards event, the hysteria on "The View", ranting ads by TV has-beens against Trump, Rachael Madcow rants and dire warnings, riots against free speech on college campuses, angry protests when ICE is arresting law breakers and every media publication and network has story after story trashing anything that Trump does or says, right down to how he shakes hands. You don't recognize this as folks viewing the "community or society is undesirable"? It is almost the definition of dystopia. This is all pretty frightening stuff. The left would be howling like stuck pigs if conservative groups acted this way. And furthermore, it is all orchestrated.

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I don't consider protests to be a sign of dark times. My comment really comes from Bannon's inauguration speech. Rewatch it and you'll hear about how America is falling apart, cities are in chaos and full of murder, everyone has lost hope, and they're all searching for any light in the darkness. It's over dramatic and paints a portrait of America that most people don't agree with.

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MrPeanut said:

I don't consider protests to be a sign of dark times. My comment really comes from Bannon's inauguration speech. Rewatch it and you'll hear about how America is falling apart, cities are in chaos and full of murder, everyone has lost hope, and they're all searching for any light in the darkness. It's over dramatic and paints a portrait of America that most people don't agree with.

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Do you have a link to Bannon's inauguration speech? I couldn't find his speech anywhere.

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Cvir said:

Do you have a link to Bannon's inauguration speech? I couldn't find his speech anywhere.

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Trump may have made an Inaugural Speech heavily influenced by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller. Referenced link-
The Hill | AllSides
Miller and Bannon wrote Trump inaugural address: report | TheHill

Transcript And Analysis: President Trump's Inauguration Speech : NPR

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Trippy Trekker said:

Trump may have made an Inaugural Speech heavily influenced by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller. Referenced link-
The Hill | AllSides
Miller and Bannon wrote Trump inaugural address: report | TheHill

Transcript And Analysis: President Trump's Inauguration Speech : NPR

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Oh, you mean Trumps inauguration speech, not Bannon. I know a few thought his speech was dark, especially those on CNN. I was surprised to learn that after I actually heard his speech. I thought it was great and inspiring. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder or if you are a supporter of Trump or not. And of course if you hate Trump you will always find something wrong with anything he says or does, which is what's happening these days.

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Trippy Trekker said:

Trump may have made an Inaugural Speech heavily influenced by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller. Referenced link-
The Hill | AllSides
Miller and Bannon wrote Trump inaugural address: report | TheHill

Transcript And Analysis: President Trump's Inauguration Speech : NPR

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First, you don't know if these two wrote it or not. If you do some research, you would know that this comes from a WSJ article and it was told to them by an unnamed White House Official. That hardly makes it a fact. With so many haters of Trump out there and liars, I only believe what can be verified. And so should you, not what you want to believe. Look what fools Pelosi and Cummings made of themselves when they openly responded to the fake "scapegoat" tweet reportedly from Flynn. But, they believed it because they wanted to believe it. But, it really doesn't matter. I thought it was a great speech, no matter who wrote it. Make America Great Again!

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Our timid alt-right wing trump supporters simply do not want to hear the names Bannon and Miller.

What do these two and Flynn have on trump ?

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Cvir said:

First, you don't know if these two wrote it or not. If you do some research, you would know that this comes from a WSJ article and it was told to them by an unnamed White House Official. That hardly makes it a fact. With so many haters of Trump out there and liars, I only believe what can be verified. And so should you, not what you want to believe. Look what fools Pelosi and Cummings made of themselves when they openly responded to the fake "scapegoat" tweet reportedly from Flynn. But, they believed it because they wanted to believe it. But, it really doesn't matter. I thought it was a great speech, no matter who wrote it. Make America Great Again!

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Cvir, my decision making methodology differs markedly from yours. Your posts, as do mine, show ample bias. I prefer to remain true to myself. You and I might agree Donald Trump has a track record as an extraordinary developer, businessman and Reality TV Star.... or that Team Trump executed a superior winning strategy in pulling off an upset in the electoral process by defeating 16 opponents in the Republican Primary and defeating HRC in the General Election. I congratulate Team Trump and all who supported his campaign for their stunning victory!

I have had at least some familiarity about Trump for roughly 40 years. Decades before this election, I had already formulated some strong personal opinions about him. If you take the time to check, you can confirm that Trump only took 10%+/- of the votes in the General Election in his home county in NYC. I choose to believe the voters in New York County know him better than in any other county in the United States. You, likewise, believe as you choose. I also predict Trump does not complete his current term. I hope his election serves as a catalyst for positive change. May our Best Times lie ahead! Bless you and yours!

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Manc Skipper said:

In hindsight, perhaps it wasn't such a good idea to put a bunch of White Nationalist bloggers in charge of the federal government.

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Who would have thought?

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Trippy Trekker said:

Cvir, my decision making methodology differs markedly from yours. Your posts, as do mine, show ample bias. I prefer to remain true to myself. You and I might agree Donald Trump has a track record as an extraordinary developer, businessman and Reality TV Star.... or that Team Trump executed a superior winning strategy in pulling off an upset in the electoral process by defeating 16 opponents in the Republican Primary and defeating HRC in the General Election. I congratulate Team Trump and all who supported his campaign for their stunning victory!

I have had at least some familiarity about Trump for roughly 40 years. Decades before this election, I had already formulated some strong personal opinions about him. If you take the time to check, you can confirm that Trump only took 10%+/- of the votes in the General Election in his home county in NYC. I choose to believe the voters in New York County know him better than in any other county in the United States. You, likewise, believe as you choose. I also predict Trump does not complete his current term. I hope his election serves as a catalyst for positive change. May our Best Times lie ahead! Bless you and yours!

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I have responded to many Trump haters out there, not that I am accusing you of that. But when I do a little checking on the basis of their remarks, I almost always discover that it is based on either lies, a misrepresentation of facts or, as in this case, unsubstantiated reports. In today's world, it is far too easy to make a claim without any supporting facts. Newspapers, magazines, and network TV do it all the time.

And thank God we don't elect candidates based on the election results from the county from which they reside. Seriously, do you think Trump would have carried CA if that was where he was from? NYC has and always will vote Democratic as will CA, because all it takes is to have a "D" next to your name. Mother Teresa couldn't win NYC if she wasn't a Democrat. And as for your decision making methodology, you seem to oppose my methodology of relying on information that can be verified. That's too bad. I support Trump, but I try to rely only on information, pro or con, that has credibility. That is how I also remain true to myself. And all I would ask is that everyone either for or against Trump do the same.

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Cvir said:

I have responded to many Trump haters out there, not that I am accusing you of that. But when I do a little checking on the basis of their remarks, I almost always discover that it is based on either lies, a misrepresentation of facts or, as in this case, unsubstantiated reports. In today's world, it is far too easy to make a claim without any supporting facts. Newspapers, magazines, and network TV do it all the time.

And thank God we don't elect candidates based on the election results from the county from which they reside. Seriously, do you think Trump would have carried CA if that was where he was from? NYC has and always will vote Democratic as will CA, because all it takes is to have a "D" next to your name. Mother Teresa couldn't win NYC if she wasn't a Democrat. And as for your decision making methodology, you seem to oppose my methodology of relying on information that can be verified. That's too bad. I support Trump, but I try to rely only on information, pro or con, that has credibility. That is how I also remain true to myself. And all I would ask is that everyone either for or against Trump do the same.

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Reagan served two terms in California 1967 to 1975. He won the New York EVs twice... 1980 and 1984. While Trump did not win any NY EVs, using Alternative Facts and Trumpian Metrics, Trump can argue he won NY by virtue of winning the popular vote in 46 out of 62 NY counties.

In spite of your appeal to stick to the facts, your posts in this thread reveal your tendency to place your preferred narrative ahead of supporting facts and, like most of us, to speculate often. No need to protest. Have we not come to DP for love of the debate? You have your preferences and I have mine. Wow! Trump won! Now we find out if he can govern competently. You appear to think he can... and I definitely do not.