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The Rise of the D Tea Party?

haymarket said:
That argument was already thoroughly refuted. Please keep up.
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No, it actually was not. You just said something silly that didn't even match up with the posts you quoted.
 
Lutherf said:
After 8 years of slamming the Tea Party and referencing the supporters as "teabaggers" the Democrats are now figuring it's a good idea to emulate them. SMH

Just keep in mind that from here on out all Democrat Tea Partiers will be referred to as "D-Baggers".
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I think "D-Bags" sounds much cooler.
 
Henrin said:
No, it actually was not. You just said something silly that didn't even match up with the posts you quoted.
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But yet you cannot be specific and point that out with any evidence. :doh:roll:
 
ecofarm said:
Limbaugh is just another shock jock. He's an entertainer. Believing that listening to him is some sort of political science education is laughable.
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He is entertainment, however he is also quite representative of the conservative movement and quite influential. That's why the libruls hate him with a passion. They also hate that they cannot come up with their own version.
 
haymarket said:
What the tea party did that was a success was hijacking an existing political party with ballot access, financing, structure and organization and corrupting it to their own devices.
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That's more tin foil hat nonsense.
 
calamity said:
Who's you? I'm not a democrat or a liberal.
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You may not be a democrat, however you certainly come off as a liberal. A non-liberal would not be so stressed out at the democrats losing the election.
 
calamity said:
I think it really stood for Stop that Black Guy who thinks he's president. But, whatever...a D version of it that focuses on stopping Trump will probably work.
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Common librul tactic....when losing an argument, you resort to race baiting. The only people who care about Obama's race appear to be libruls.
 
haymarket said:
The information I presented in my post #34 included all of the years for the federal income tax going back to 1913.

And it is you who is unfairly focusing upon 1913 and trying to neglect the rest of it.

And lets be brutally frank and honest about this - the so called tea party believers with their Taxed Enough Already mantra were not alive and paying taxes in 1913 or 14 or 15 for all practical purposes and if a precious few of them were even alive they were not prowling the streets with sign and tea bags hanging from them a couple of years ago. So the farm of reference to income tax rates are ridiculous to pretend otherwise. Lots of those folks were alive and paying taxes in post WW2 years and that is the far more fair and honest from of reference to compare if one is "taxed enough already" or not.
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perhaps someday you will wake up to the fact that it is not just about income taxes. Libruls have found ways to tax nearly everything. They even tax death. In at least one state they even tax how much the roof of your house blocks rainfall from hitting the ground. They would tax toilet flushes if they could.
 
ObamacareFail said:
While it's nice to see that the libruls have in their own way admitted that the Tea Party was a winner for the populist conservative movement, you are not doing much that qualifies as emulating the Tea Party. The Tea Party is a grassroots movement that stages peaceful rallies over issues like out of control government spending and taxes. It's not directed at any one politician. What the libruls are doing is more along the lines of violence and anti-Trump anarchy.
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The "tea party" was about as grassroots as a supermarket parking lot.

Tea Party - SourceWatch
 
Risky Thicket said:
**** the Democratic Party and the donkey it rode in on. It's same old same old. The Democratic Party is gone, fini. With any luck it won't try to return. Hillary and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazille and John Podesta killed it, probably with a little assistance from Chuck Schumer hiding in the shadows.

Do you know that Democratic partisan lunatics are already talking about Hillary running for the mayor of New York? There is also talk of Chelsea running for office of some kind in 2020. Like America needs more of that same horse **** that lost the election in 2016!

Jesus, God, these people are hopeless. The name Clinton is the kiss of death but the timid Democratic Party is not about to stray too far from their establishment leaders and frayed strategies.

Since the beginning of time humans have given different names to sh*t even inventing cute names to make it more socially acceptable. In the end it remains what it has always been. Rebranding the Democratic Party won't alter the stink.

I would be surprised if people who left the party are interested in returning.
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They'll return, but only to overturn.


calamity said:
Could be...lord knows they need it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...5efb7ccfb0d_story.html?utm_term=.abd7633a4a71
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The Democratic 'Tea Party' isn't actually a new thing. There has always been a progressive wing, the wing of Bernie and FDR; it simply entered a period of chafing dormancy when the Clintonistas and their neoliberal corporatism definitively hijacked leadership and thrust it into the shadows in the 90s, with internal politics angling in the latter's direction since donor money flooded it in the 70s with the idiotic Buckley v Valeo 'money is speech' SCOTUS ruling. Between the party's continual drift away from the left and working class, and the miserable, absolute and wholesale failure of the Clintonista Middle Way's so-called 'pragmatists', the corporate establishment hasn't a leg to stand on, and we're taking it back.

We won't ally with the establishment; we're no longer going to stand by and do as we're told on high by the frauds and failures who lost so badly in 2016 and their donor puppetmasters; that way lies impotency and electoral ruin as we've so plainly seen; we will overtake it or break trying. The writer is either a propagandist or fool if he thinks there is even an outside chance that we'll work with party leadership (barring a near-complete about face of their present direction) in lieu of supplanting it; indeed, they will be replaced and work with _us_, no matter how long it takes.
 
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haymarket said:
WOW!!!!! What a refutation using point by point facts and verifiable evidence to support your position!!!!!
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it applies when you post something completely off the rails.
 
Porkuloss said:
The "tea party" was about as grassroots as a supermarket parking lot.

Tea Party - SourceWatch
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if you want to refute something, source your argument with something serious. Not a goofy leftwing nutsite like "SourceWatch. Nobody is going to take that site seriously.
 
Fletch said:
I swear, you liberals just cant help yourselves when it comes to obsessing over skin color. Like the Tea Party would have been falling in line behind Obamacare and trillion dollar deficits if Obama had been a white guy. :roll: Perhaps you aren't old enough to remember, but republicans went after Bill Clinton in ways that are far more aggressive than anything they did with Obama. Was that because Bill Clinton was black? Use your head.
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Well, to be fair, Bubba was the first black president. :rolleyes:

Clinton Honored As 'First Black President' at Black Caucus Dinner

Bill Clinton actually WAS the first black president. For reals!
 
ObamacareFail said:
if you want to refute something, source your argument with something serious. Not a goofy leftwing nutsite like "SourceWatch. Nobody is going to take that site seriously.
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The claims are backed by references. You are free to check and refute them. Posting that link was easier than posing individual links or quoting Jane Mayer's book. "leftwing nutsite" is a weak ad hom. Facts can come from biased sources, even Breitbart (though that's rare).
 
haymarket said:
I am more than willing to look at the entire period of the federal income tax that began with the Amendment to do just that. And I provided you with the history myself.
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Are you willing to look at all taxes from all sources? Because that's what Taxed Enough Already stands for. ;)
 
ObamacareFail said:
perhaps someday you will wake up to the fact that it is not just about income taxes. Libruls have found ways to tax nearly everything. They even tax death. In at least one state they even tax how much the roof of your house blocks rainfall from hitting the ground. They would tax toilet flushes if they could.
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I did not realize death was taxed. I helped administer the estates of both my inlaws and we paid no tax at all.
 
calamity said:
Could be...lord knows they need it.
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It's already having an impact.

"Repeal the ACA" became "repeal and delay" became "okay, we won't repeal until we have a replacement" became "let's just 'repair' the ACA."
 
countryboy said:
Okay, let me ask you a question. In your opinion, what percentage of your income do you find it acceptable to pay in total taxes?
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That would depend on
1- how much I earn and
2- how much I benefit from the society I live in and
3 -what society needs to have the level of service and protection the people want.

I would take all of those things into consideration.
 
haymarket said:
That would depend on
1- how much I earn and
2- how much I benefit from the society I live in and
3 -what society needs to have the level of service and protection the people want.

I would take all of those things into consideration.
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Okay hay, I'll give you one more chance, but I'm not going to be sucked into your silly games. Today, right now, what is an acceptable percentage of taxation for your income, from all sources. Give me a number, or we're done here.
 
This Narrative has been all over the place the last ten days or so..."What are you bitching about, this is just Tea Party tactics, we have seen this before".....but I am not buying it. The Tea Party believed in free speech and free ideas, they did not tend to be mean, and they were interested in winning hearts and minds.
 
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