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Is there a difference between White and Muslim terror?

Getting blown up either way would tend to suck.


Duffy's comment isn't without merit. There is definitely a difference between a highly organized group which actively produces their own propaganda, seeking to recruit and/or fund devotees, and individuals who latch on to a particular ideology. It's kind of like the difference between being a full patch 1%'er and being a hang around. There is a distinct difference in the level of commitment and responsibility one has over the other.
 
Lutherf said:
Getting blown up either way would tend to suck.


Duffy's comment isn't without merit. There is definitely a difference between a highly organized group which actively produces their own propaganda, seeking to recruit and/or fund devotees, and individuals who latch on to a particular ideology. It's kind of like the difference between being a full patch 1%'er and being a hang around. There is a distinct difference in the level of commitment and responsibility one has over the other.
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True. One group has to sneak into the country, illegally obtain firearms and remain hidden while planning. And as the numbers show are very unlikely to be successful. The other are natural citizens, buy weapons and ammunition at walmart and conduct business at the local gun club and on facebook. There actually could have been a Bowling Green massacre, but it would have been committed by a southern baptist.
 
In quantity, by far.
 
The OK City Bombing was now 20 years ago. Mcveigh paid, good, good, good...

And then there was the Terror Attacks by Dylan Roof, may he rot in hell.


We all know about Islamic Terror Attacks of:
Orlando,
San Bernidino,
Ft. Hood,
Boston Marathon,
Umpqua College,
911 World Trade Towers,
911 Pentagon,
L.A. International Airport,
Little Rock Recruiting office,
New York Subway hatchet attacks,
Garland Texas Muhammad cartoon attacks,
Chattanooga shootings,
Ohio State University attack

There have been other Islamic Terror attacks, and in 20+ years, the info will probably be declassified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks


I challenge anyone on this forum to name one "Terror Attack" not listed above, that was done by an American Born, Caucasian Citizen, who was not a Muslim and/or of Arabic decent?

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No. Terrorism is terrorism, and is always of the highest caliber of ****headedry, regardless of the variance of its many different motivations.
 
Are you talking about the KKK, or white Supremist groups which have done all of that for a hundred and fifty years in this country?
 
If you include all of the lynchings, church bombings perpetrated by the KKK and other white supremist groups since the end of the civil war and even events like the Oklahoma City bombing by a white supremist follower, I think you can point to a lot more white terror in this country than any Muslim terrorist attacks.
 
independentusa said:
Sean Duffy slammed for white terrorism comments
According to Sean Duffy, a house member from Wisconsin there is a difference between White and Muslim terror acts. Do you think there is a difference?
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Well, not to the dead people.

What's interesting is that we have a national politician who thinks that Muslim is a race. One can be white and a Muslim, right? Muslim is someone who follows the Islam religion, and can be of any race. They usually are Middle Eastern (whatever those races are), but anyone can convert. Like Judaism. Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism.
 
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I think their racial background matters less than their psychological profile. All terrorists are of the same ilk in that regard.

It's sad that America is still splitting hairs about race. It's getting really boring to the rest of us.
 
JumpinJack said:
Well, not to the dead people.

What's interesting is that we have a national politician who thinks that Muslim is a race. One can be white and a Muslim, right? Muslim is someone who follows the Islam religion, and can be of any race. They usually are Middle Eastern (whatever those races are), but anyone can convert. Like Judaism. Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism.
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He didn't say anything about muslims being a race. In that video at least.
 
independentusa said:
Sean Duffy slammed for white terrorism comments
According to Sean Duffy, a house member from Wisconsin there is a difference between White and Muslim terror acts. Do you think there is a difference?
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They are both equally deplorable. There are several differences though: motivation (depending on which white terrorism you are referring too), frequency, number of zealots willing to act, organization and financial backing etc.
 
independentusa said:
Sean Duffy slammed for white terrorism comments
According to Sean Duffy, a house member from Wisconsin there is a difference between White and Muslim terror acts. Do you think there is a difference?
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There are all sorts of differences between the attack in Canada and attacks committed by Islamic extremists. There are all sorts of differences between different attacks by Islamic extremists. In general terms terrorist attacks are relatively individual events, certainly the kind being carried out in the West, sometimes with commonalities but also plenty of variation and unique elements.

Denying those differences is wrong. Exaggerating those differences is wrong. Taking specific differences to manufacture artificial divisions is wrong. I doubt the politician or the interviewer in this case were being entirely honest here, both with their own motives and narratives to get across. In both of their industries, the truth is secondary at best.
 
Lutherf said:
Getting blown up either way would tend to suck.


Duffy's comment isn't without merit. There is definitely a difference between a highly organized group which actively produces their own propaganda, seeking to recruit and/or fund devotees, and individuals who latch on to a particular ideology. It's kind of like the difference between being a full patch 1%'er and being a hang around. There is a distinct difference in the level of commitment and responsibility one has over the other.
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Even if a muslim is a lone wolf attacker, they get lumped in with muslim terror organizations. That is not considered the same as white terrorism.
 
Lutherf said:
Getting blown up either way would tend to suck.


Duffy's comment isn't without merit.
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It is without merit.. Muslims are white too for one.

There is definitely a difference between a highly organized group which actively produces their own propaganda, seeking to recruit and/or fund devotees, and individuals who latch on to a particular ideology.
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No there is not. One is a country/organisation, other is a crack pot following that country/organisation. End result is terror for both.

That a white Christian crackpot used GOP ideology or/and propaganda to justify an attack, is no different than a Muslim using the Koran to justify their attack. Now in the US and some what in Europe, we have a massive double standard. We saw it with Brevik, where on these very boards had debates on "was he a right wing Christian terrorist", when he himself said he was. There is an insane belief among American and European right wingers, that no Christian can be a terrorist, and if they actually are, the defense is usually "mentally ill". Case in point. Jared Lee Loughner, attack and killing people at a political rally that was being held by the Democrats. I have yet to see any right winger characterize that as a right wing terror attack. Mentally ill was and still is the defense of this terrorist. Hell he was never charged with terror in the courts... pathetic.

So basically this guy is trying to push a massive double standard and promote yet again an Anti-Muslim agenda of the Christian right wing in the US.
 
terrorism is terrorism .............. one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter; race, nor religion matter

some terrorist even become well regarded heads of state; Menachem Begin ring a bell?

some would even go as far as stating he was an example of a 'good' terrorist
 
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No, there is no difference. If a terrorist kills you, you're gone, dead, and your family and loved ones lives will be changed forever. Irrespective of who the terrorist is, it's a heinous act.

That being said, it is very obvious that there are those (Western Governments obviously included) who render, almost by definition, Islamic terrorism more significant than anything else. The only logical explanation for that is an underlying bigotry towards Muslims as a whole because nothing else makes sense.
 
Kurmugeon said:
The OK City Bombing was now 20 years ago. Mcveigh paid, good, good, good...

And then there was the Terror Attacks by Dylan Roof, may he rot in hell.


We all know about Islamic Terror Attacks of:
Orlando,
San Bernidino,
Ft. Hood,
Boston Marathon,
Umpqua College,
911 World Trade Towers,
911 Pentagon,
L.A. International Airport,
Little Rock Recruiting office,
New York Subway hatchet attacks,
Garland Texas Muhammad cartoon attacks,
Chattanooga shootings,
Ohio State University attack

There have been other Islamic Terror attacks, and in 20+ years, the info will probably be declassified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks


I challenge anyone on this forum to name one "Terror Attack" not listed above, that was done by an American Born, Caucasian Citizen, who was not a Muslim and/or of Arabic decent?

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Las Vegas. They killed a couple of police officers.

Las Vegas Shooting Suspects Jerad and Amanda Miller Wielded Swastika | Time.com

?Anti-government? killers put swastika, flag on Metro Police officer?s body - Las Vegas Sun News

Las Vegas cop-killing couple left swastika-stamped manifesto on slain officer's body - NY Daily News

Sheriff's office: Las Vegas couple saw police as oppressors - CNN.com

And I could dig up other cases, but you specifically asked for one. So I gave you one.
 
One gets a full PC Pass and excuse after excuse given for their actions

Any guess as to which one?
 
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