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I am embarrassed to be an American

LOL! We just got through 8 terrible years of Obama, I just have to laugh at this one. Two weeks? OMG, I hope you can make it!

I'm 56 years old; I have made it this far but to be honest the worst presidents of my time have been Nixon (Watergate, impeachment, resignation), Reagan (busting PATCO, amnesty for illegals, Iran Contra, exponential deficit spending), and G W Bush (9/11, a war of 'choice' for daddy, too much to list)

what do those guys all have in common, besides they were all losers?

where will Trump land?
 
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well buddy, I'm not the president that been acting like a complete ***hat, am I?

Well you are not President, that's for sure, but the rest... well you said it, not me...
 
I'm 56 years old; I have made it this far but to be honest the worst presidents of my time have been Nixon (Watergate, impeachment, resignation), Reagan (busting PATCO, amnesty for illegals, Iran Contra, exponential deficit spending), and G W Bush (9/11, a war of 'choice' for daddy, too much to list)

what do those guys all have in common, besides they were all losers?

where will Trump land?

See, this is how you lose credibility. You call Reagan, who was probably the best President in modern times, one of the worst, LOL. Booming economy, restored our respect throughout the world, defeated the Soviet Communists, oh how horrible!

And you ignore Carter, who came right before him and left the country in a huge mess. And he was the worst, until Obama came along. Oh, and you didn't like the debt under Reagan, but I guess it the explosion of debt under Obama doesn't bother you? What a joke.
 
I'm 56 years old; I have made it this far but to be honest the worst presidents of my time have been Nixon (Watergate, impeachment, resignation), Reagan (busting PATCO, amnesty for illegals, Iran Contra, exponential deficit spending), and G W Bush (9/11, a war of 'choice' for daddy, too much to list)

what do those guys all have in common, besides they were all losers?

where will Trump land?

Err.

"Reagan (busting PATCO"

Not so fast.

At 7 a.m. on August 3, 1981, the union declared a strike, seeking better working conditions, better pay, and a 32-hour workweek (a four-day week and a eight-hour day combined). In addition, PATCO wanted to be excluded from the civil service clauses that it had long disliked. In striking, the union violated 5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p (now 5 U.S.C. § 7311), which prohibits strikes by federal government employees. Ronald Reagan declared the PATCO strike a "peril to national safety" and ordered them back to work under the terms of the Taft-Hartley Act. Only 1,300 of the nearly 13,000 controllers returned to work.[SUP][5][/SUP] Subsequently, at 10:55 a.m., Reagan included the following in a statement to the media from the Rose Garden of the White House: "Let me read the solemn oath taken by each of these employees, a sworn affidavit, when they accepted their jobs: 'I am not participating in any strike against the Government of the United States or any agency thereof, and I will not so participate while an employee of the Government of the United States or any agency thereof.'"[SUP][7][/SUP] He then demanded those remaining on strike return to work within 48 hours, otherwise their jobs would be forfeited. At the same time, Transportation Secretary Drew Lewis organized for replacements and started contingency plans. By prioritizing and cutting flights severely, and even adopting methods of air traffic management that PATCO had previously lobbied for, the government was initially able to have 50% of flights available.[SUP][5][/SUP]

On August 5, following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work, Reagan fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order,[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP] and banned them from federal service for life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_(1968)

It was an illegal strike. "5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p (now 5 U.S.C. § 7311), which prohibits strikes by federal government employees."

"Reagan . . . . amnesty for illegals"

If memory serves, that was forced onto Regan by the Democrats, who then failed to deliver their end of the bargain, which was securing the borders.
 
well, for me I would like a sitting President to AT LEAST have the minimum behavior level of a sitting President

tRump has the behavior of a monkey; well, actually that is an insult to monkeys .............. sorry, my bad .......

Well, again, hes just a guy, in a position for a short time. Clintons sexual harassment didnt ruin the country, Obamas racial division didnt do it. Bush's war on terror didnt do it. Trump will do what he does and we'll move on to the next drama. It wont undo 250 years of relative peace, strength, success, and freedom that is what is really what being an American is. Our govt is just a tool, its not what defines us.
 
I am 56 years old and I have seen my share of politicians (from both sides of the isle) that were elected to POTUS that I considered to be not worthy of the job.

I thought I had seen really bad before but things are looking terrible now.

I however am completely embarrassed to be an American; why? The current POTUS Trump.

Never in my dreams would I have imagined in my life time someone that retains the office that is so immature, impetuous, impulsive, petty, divisive, and behaves in such an un-presidential manner as Trump. It truly is beyond the pall.

I cannot even watch or listen to the news any longer; I am truly embarrassed to be an American and I do not state that flippantly.

The 'cringe' factor is off the scale .......... am I the only American that feels this?

It has only been two weeks.

God help US .......

I grew up hearing Leftist and Established GOP Aristocracy say the same thing about Reagan. It was BS then and it's BS now.

Your side lost. Under Trump the country is improving in every way possible. Americans optimism for the future has not been this high since Reagan.

All Trump opponents can do is scream useless inaccurate attacks like "Racist/Sexist/Homophobic".

By the way: I get embarrassed when Leftist call themselves Libertarians.
 
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I am 56 years old and I have seen my share of politicians (from both sides of the isle) that were elected to POTUS that I considered to be not worthy of the job.

I thought I had seen really bad before but things are looking terrible now.

I however am completely embarrassed to be an American; why? The current POTUS Trump.

Never in my dreams would I have imagined in my life time someone that retains the office that is so immature, impetuous, impulsive, petty, divisive, and behaves in such an un-presidential manner as Trump. It truly is beyond the pall.

I cannot even watch or listen to the news any longer; I am truly embarrassed to be an American and I do not state that flippantly.

The 'cringe' factor is off the scale .......... am I the only American that feels this?

It has only been two weeks.

God help US .......

The world needs second guessers too. I'm sure you'll be in the front row and claimed to have supported Trump all along after he cleans up Obama's mess and gets the country rolling.
 
The world needs second guessers too. I'm sure you'll be in the front row and claimed to have supported Trump all along after he cleans up Obama's mess and gets the country rolling.


I have voted third party for nearly the past THREE decades; WHY would I claim to support those (Dem/GOP) candidates that have saddled your kids, your grand kids, and on & on with TRILLION$ in debt which is doing nothing but killing the potential for real growth?

yeah, like I'm really gonna claim I supported one of the 'same ole same ole' guys ........
 
trust me, we are even more embarrassed you are an American
 
Trump NOW claims to have been wire tapped by Obama, NO proof, just BS ....................

the embarrassment continues in FULL FORCE


AT the end of the day, Trump will have his 'image' plastered ALL OVER trillions of rolls of toilet tissue, not American FR notes ................

thank you ALL for your understanding ...................... this has been extremely embarrassing .................
 
here it is May 19, 2017 & I am more embarrassed than ever to be an American under the fascist rule of fuhrer Trump ..........
 
here we are, December 1, 2017: I am as embarrassed as I have been so far that Clown Chaos is destroying MY nation .............. anyone else? ..............
 
I am 56 years old and I have seen my share of politicians (from both sides of the isle) that were elected to POTUS that I considered to be not worthy of the job.

I thought I had seen really bad before but things are looking terrible now.

I however am completely embarrassed to be an American; why? The current POTUS Trump.

Never in my dreams would I have imagined in my life time someone that retains the office that is so immature, impetuous, impulsive, petty, divisive, and behaves in such an un-presidential manner as Trump. It truly is beyond the pall.

I cannot even watch or listen to the news any longer; I am truly embarrassed to be an American and I do not state that flippantly.

The 'cringe' factor is off the scale .......... am I the only American that feels this?

It has only been two weeks.

God help US .......

Oh please. I'm sure you wouldn't have been embarrassed at all to have crooked Hillary as president.
 
I voted for Gary Johnson; the election is over, in case you haven't noticed .................

the election is over, in case you haven't noticed .................

Trump won, fair and square.

By the way, I wrote in Kasich.
 
here we are, nearly a year after I started the thread; I'm even more embarrassed now .........
 
Liberals are always embarrassed to be American. Thats why they're liberals.
 
Necro thread and my thoughts haven't changed, really: I'm not embarrassed to be an American so much as embarrassed for my fellow Americans.
 
my Moms family came to the US from Germany in the mid 1700s
my Dads family came to the US from Scotland in the late 1700s
my family has been here a very long time
Moving is not an option & neither is the embarrassment I feel :(

Germany & Scotland, you come from solid stock! You'll get through your depression!
 
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