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From the US Holocaust Museum

Absentglare said:
I didn't mention Clinton, i'm simply remarking that most Americans do not worship President Trump.
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I was using the EXACT logic that you used and you know it. You offered up a manipulation of the numbers and I countered with the same kind of manipulation to expose the lie you were trying to perpetuate.
 
faithful_servant said:
I haven't seen any blind worship of Pres. Trump, just a rejection of the the blind hate that spews forth from some folks here. On the issues where I support Pres. Trump, I can clearly state why and show facts to back up my choices. The same goes for the issues where I don't support Pres. Trump. All I see from the hate-spewing side of the discussion is stupid crap like this thread. Near zero intelligence, no rational, fact-based support, just blind hate.
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faithful_servant said:
I don't engage in intellectually dishonest activities. It's something that we all should be fighting to END, not spreading more of.
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faithful_servant said:
I was using the EXACT logic that you used and you know it. You offered up a manipulation of the numbers and I countered with the same kind of manipulation to expose the lie you were trying to perpetuate.
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Look if you can't disentangle your emotions from this discussion and make a critical assessment then you may as well be on your way.

The right is happy to cry about socialism and try to demonize the left as communists or whatever garbage- well this seems to be an alarmingly spot-on indictment of the right. Your inability to address the argument on any actual merits is very telling.
 
NIMBY said:
306 should have--295 by the CD method
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304 was the final count. Any alternative libromath accounting methods were not considered.

Can't argue about the other two. IMO they should lose their voting privileges.
 
jimbo said:
304 was the final count. Any alternative libromath accounting methods were not considered.

Can't argue about the other two. IMO they should lose their voting privileges.
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Nothing libro about it. There should be no faithless electors .
 
Absentglare said:
"The holocaust did not begin with killing, it began with words."

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US Holocaust Museum's 'Signs of fascism' appears to be a stark warning | Metro News

Do i think we're on course to recreate Nazi Germany? Not a chance. The 265 million of us who didn't vote for President Trump heavily outnumber the 59 million who were seduced by his divisive rhetoric.

President Trump does hit an alarming number of those notes to varying degrees, but my impression is that he's using the manipulative tactics to gain personal wealth rather than try to exterminate people.
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They left out the socialist aspect of fascism.

Who else finds it odd that the Holocaust Museum would claim that government and religion being intertwined is fascist?

Oh...and there are 265 million Clinton voters in America? :lamo
 
apdst said:
They left out the socialist aspect of fascism.

Who else finds it odd that the Holocaust Museum would claim that government and religion being intertwined is fascist?

Oh...and there are 265 million Clinton voters in America? :lamo
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Nimby very carefully didn't say that.

It was a gotcha attempt.
 
Absentglare said:
Look if you can't disentangle your emotions from this discussion and make a critical assessment then you may as well be on your way.

The right is happy to cry about socialism and try to demonize the left as communists or whatever garbage- well this seems to be an alarmingly spot-on indictment of the right. Your inability to address the argument on any actual merits is very telling.
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So you have nothing intelligent to add, just more baseless accusations and blatant avoidance...
 
apdst said:
They left out the socialist aspect of fascism.

Who else finds it odd that the Holocaust Museum would claim that government and religion being intertwined is fascist?

Oh...and there are 265 million Clinton voters in America? :lamo
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265 million Americans did not vote for President Trump.
 
faithful_servant said:
So you have nothing intelligent to add, just more baseless accusations and blatant avoidance...
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I explained my thought process here:

Absentglare said:
It's not news, i'm not acting surprised. I explicitly disagreed with the sentiment that Trump = Hitler. This was going around on social media so i brought it here to discuss. I brought it here to discuss because i honestly believe that President Trump scores alarmingly high on this checklist.

- nationalism, yes, of course "Make America Great Again", "America First"
-disdain for human rights, yes; Mexico sends rapists, halt Muslim immigration, surveil mosques, ship US citizens to Guantanamo Bay without trial, etc.
- identifying an enemy to unite against, yes; Muslims, Mexicans, Chinese/free trade.
- pro-military, this one is a meh. President Trump doesn't seem terribly pro-military.
- sexist, uncontroversially yes; grabbing women by the *****, barging in on naked women as young as 15, calling women pigs, etc.
- control the media, absolutely yes; he's been trying to bully the media with his whining about bias, his attack on CNN, cutting funding for PBS/NPR, etc.
- obsession with national security, absolutely yes; halt Muslim immigration, surveil mosques, etc.
- religion and government mixing, yes intent to halt Muslim immigration, special protections for Christians, etc.
- protect corporate interests, yes of course, give cash handouts to the rich in the form of tax cuts, remove regulatory burdens so corporations can exploit the public and pollute our land, etc.
- hurt labor interests, yes i'd say he's anti labor union.
- anti-intellectuals and the arts, yes this is pretty ironclad too with all his derision at academia, experts, etc.
- obsessed with crime and punishment, yes, he's the "law and order" candidate, he threatened to invade Chicago with a federal police force, etc.
- protecting corruption/cronyism, absolutely yes, from Trump University to his vitamin scam, from his charities admission that it broke the law to its lack of transparency, President Trump seems to be the most corrupt major politician of my lifetime.
- fraudulent elections, this is the second one that i don't think there's evidence for.

9/14 Hell yes
3/14 Yes/maybe
2/14 No

That's pretty bad.
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Perhaps you'd like to populate an alternative view for us?
 
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