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Why are schools in the US today so primarily liberal?[W:30]

Re: Why are schools in the US today so primarily liberal?

beefheart said:
But......you speculated.

Is that OK when you do it?

The conservatives always distrust higher education....why is that?

Tell me about your college experience as a student.
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You do realize you're talking to a high school sophomore, don't you?

You're probably keeping them away from their homework or chores. Or, most likely, a video game.
 
Re: Why are schools in the US today so primarily liberal?

Crosscheck said:
I think students should be exposed to both sides of the divide so they can form their own opinion.

But as a science major I don't remember any politics being shoved on us. Of course that was many years ago and it may all be different now. Unfortunately now days politics has invaded every walk of our lives like a cancer.
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Agreed.

So then you'd be someone who would condemn instances where conservative speaker is shouted down, intimidated, dis-invited from speaking on a college campus, Yes?

You'd condemn the restriction of someone handing out pocket copies of the constitution on campus, yes?
 
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Captain America said:
You do realize you're talking to a high school sophomore, don't you?

You're probably keeping them away from their homework or chores. Or, most likely, a video game.
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Yeah, but they are pontificating about something they really no nothing about.

There are plenty of posters here who have actually been to college and have real experiences.
 
Re: Why are schools in the US today so primarily liberal?

trutheagle said:
I am currently a sophomore in highschool and Im wondering why all of my teachers try to push their political agenda on to us. These are almost always left/liberal ideas.

Thanks!
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Not much info in this complaint...are you concerned about your required reading list? Or what exactly? In my son's school, he would have been kicked out of school for wearing a blatantly political T-shirt. Any teacher would be disciplined for an overt expression of political preference. But compassion and tolerance for kids struggling with identity and the normal complexities of growing up are necessary qualities for teachers- qualities that lean liberal, I would say

But you might contemplate the fact that some conservatives are remarkably hostile to smarty pants educated people who publish scientific reports that run counter to the current strain of conservativism. I know many people who are "conservative" as I regard the definition of the term but who would never vote for the current crop of crazies in Congress
 
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eohrnberger said:
Agreed.

So then you'd be someone who would condemn instances where conservative speaker is shouted down, intimidated, dis-invited from speaking on a college campus, Yes?

You'd condemn the restriction of someone handing out pocket copies of the constitution on campus, yes?
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Only if it contributes to the education of students. I don't see any merit in having Fred Phelps and inbreds from the Westboro Baptist Church speaking on campus.
 
trutheagle said:
I am currently a sophomore in highschool and Im wondering why all of my teachers try to push their political agenda on to us. These are almost always left/liberal ideas.

Thanks!
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What classes are you currently taking and what kind of liberal political agenda are they pushing on you in those classes?

Please be specific.
 
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Crosscheck said:
Only if it contributes to the education of students. I don't see any merit in having Fred Phelps and inbreds from the Westboro Baptist Church speaking on campus.
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Has Westboro ever been invited anywhere? FYI, Phelps is dead, his spokes-spawn is as hateful as ever, and the congregation now totals 40. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

"Disinvitation" is all the rage: List of disinvited speakers at colleges - Business Insider

Remember this? Arizona Daily Wildcat - Coulter avoids pie in face - Friday, October 22, 2004

From 2011, "Why Do Liberals Throw Things at Conservatives?"
https://spectator.org/26761_gang-six-plan-plan/
 
trutheagle said:
I am currently a sophomore in highschool and Im wondering why all of my teachers try to push their political agenda on to us. These are almost always left/liberal ideas.

Thanks!
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I'm about to go back into the education field. I'm a conservative. So don't worry. We are out there. But if you want the truth? Because universities are liberal safe havens. The teachers are protected by unions, which are liberal safe havens, and of course...because they are government workers. Which is a liberal job. ;)


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My daughter had the privilege of of going to school in Helsinki due to dual citizenship. Finland is an extremely liberal country and the education that she received far better prepared her for the world than any education that she could of received here. There are no mandated standardized tests in Finland, besides the one exam at the end of senior year in high school. There's no rankings, no comparisons or competition between students, schools or regions. Finland’s schools are publicly funded. The people in the government agencies running them, from national officials to local authorities, are educators, not business people, military leaders or career politicians. Every school has the same national goals and draws from the same pool of university-trained educators. The result being is that a Finnish child has a good shot at getting the same quality education no matter whether he or she lives in a rural village or a university town. We need to take clues from them.
 
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HenryChinaski said:
My daughter had the privilege of of going to school in Helsinki due to dual citizenship. Finland is an extremely liberal country and the education that she received far better prepared her for the world than any education that she could of received here. There are no mandated standardized tests in Finland, besides the one exam at the end of senior year in high school. There's no rankings, no comparisons or competition between students, schools or regions. Finland’s schools are publicly funded. The people in the government agencies running them, from national officials to local authorities, are educators, not business people, military leaders or career politicians. Every school has the same national goals and draws from the same pool of university-trained educators. The result being is that a Finnish child has a good shot at getting the same quality education no matter whether he or she lives in a rural village or a university town. We need to take clues from them.
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No. We shouldn't. We shouldn't be trying to copy other people's system. We have 310,000,000 people. A different economic structure, and different jobs. Then factor in the diversity based on race and culture and so on. We could MAYBE break down our school zones into districts (southeast, SW) and go from there...but honestly...I think we need to go back to a more regionalized model for trying to improve the system. Put more burden and authority on the local administration. And cut down the power of teacher unions.


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blackjack50 said:
No. We shouldn't. We shouldn't be trying to copy other people's system. We have 310,000,000 people. A different economic structure, and different jobs. Then factor in the diversity based on race and culture and so on. We could MAYBE break down our school zones into districts (southeast, SW) and go from there...but honestly...I think we need to go back to a more regionalized model for trying to improve the system. Put more burden and authority on the local administration. And cut down the power of teacher unions.


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None of what you mentioned would have any bearing on improving education because none of it focuses on improving education. The Finns have made clear that, in any country, no matter its size or composition, there is much wisdom to minimizing testing and instead investing in broader curricula, smaller classes, and better training, pay, and treatment of teachers. They spend less money per student than most western countries with better results including us. Their curriculum is focused on critical thinking and problem solving, project-based learning, and learning to learn. Their blueprint should absolutely be followed here. And standardized testing should be done away with, that would help immensely
 
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