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The Mexican wall:

I’m among the proponents of a unilateral trade policy described within Wikipedia’s “Import Certificates” article. I believe Due to many reasons I believe that species of Import Certificates would be superior to tariffs as USA’s general policy for international trade of goods.

I’m not a supporter of president Trump but I would be pleased if the U.S. Congress actively discusses and fully considers our chronic annual trade deficits net detrimental effects upon our economy.

Iwould hope that we don’t enact a policy that’s discriminates between foreign nations. I’m a supporter of the “most favorable nation concept” that should be and I suppose is within all our trade agreements. That policy does not prohibit nations from favoring goods produced within their own nation.
Our trade agreements have provisions for being re-negotiated and provisions for participating nations to grant six months’ notice of their intention to resign from the agreement.

I’m not a proponent of tariffs and I’m certainly opposed to tariffs that discriminate between foreign nations, or industries, or types of goods but I would not beheart-broken if we did impose tariffs only upon Mexico.

Google Wikipedia’s “Import Certificates” article.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
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The Mexican Wall sounds like a good name for a new restaurant chain.
 
I think it is high time we evaluate how we trade with other countries from the perspective of what is best for the USA.
At some level NAFTA is a good idea, but it may need some limits, or even expansion.
Adding a guest worker prevision to NAFTA could solve the Illegal immigrant from Mexico issue.
It likely would also move the wall..further south!
 
americanwoman said:
Only if she works in her costume.
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She can work as a tag team with the Orange Trumpette.

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Assuming it gets built, Mexico won't own it.


So it's the American wall. Not the Mexican.
 
I'm Supposn said:
The Mexican wall:

I’m among the proponents of a unilateral trade policy described within Wikipedia’s “Import Certificates” article. I believe Due to many reasons I believe that species of Import Certificates would be superior to tariffs as USA’s general policy for international trade of goods.

I’m not a supporter of president Trump but I would be pleased if the U.S. Congress actively discusses and fully considers our chronic annual trade deficits net detrimental effects upon our economy.

Iwould hope that we don’t enact a policy that’s discriminates between foreign nations. I’m a supporter of the “most favorable nation concept” that should be and I suppose is within all our trade agreements. That policy does not prohibit nations from favoring goods produced within their own nation.
Our trade agreements have provisions for being re-negotiated and provisions for participating nations to grant six months’ notice of their intention to resign from the agreement.

I’m not a proponent of tariffs and I’m certainly opposed to tariffs that discriminate between foreign nations, or industries, or types of goods but I would not beheart-broken if we did impose tariffs only upon Mexico.

Google Wikipedia’s “Import Certificates” article.

Respectfully, Supposn
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Import certificates are an idea by that old liberal pirate warren buffet and I have always liked them

They ensure balanced trade where other nations have to buy from America if they want to sell to America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import_certificates
 
I live on the border with Mexico. I don't want a 50 foot wall. :(
 
X Factor said:
I live on the border with Mexico. I don't want a 50 foot wall. :(
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I bet you dont live close enough to the border to see a wall if it was 100 ft tall
 
X Factor said:
I live on the border with Mexico. I don't want a 50 foot wall. :(
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I know.



What you REALLY want is a 100 ft wall, with automated gun turrets!



AmIright?!?
 
Mac77 said:
I bet you dont live close enough to the border to see a wall if it was 100 ft tall
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I really do. Interstate 10 runs right through the center and if you take it from one end of the city to the other (which takes all of about 1/2 an hour), Mexico is just on the other side of a it for a good portion of the trip.
 
X Factor said:
I really do. Interstate 10 runs right through the center and if you take it from one end of the city to the other (which takes all of about 1/2 an hour), Mexico is just on the other side of a it for a good portion of the trip.
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OK

You live in a city (El Paso I suppose)that is filled with walls everywhere you look
 
X Factor said:
I live on the border with Mexico. I don't want a 50 foot wall. :(
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I’m surprised you feel this way, You must know of the issues that your state and the nation faces with an unsecured border. The Mexican side is totally controlled by the cartels and our southern border is the crossing point for 80% to 90% of the drugs that come into the US. This wall/fence and added security isn’t all about keeping out people looking for work on farms or a better quality of life. With that, I’m actually for an expanded work visa program as long as It’s administered properly.

Just the heroin use and deaths alone in the US has reached epidemic levels. The crime and despair goes far north of Texas and Mexico. It has reached my state of New Hampshire, we now lead the country in per capita addiction and the word pandemic is now common with describing this carnage.

We both know that the Mexican government is unwilling and unable to challenge these cartels because of the ingrained corruption in all levels of government . The US is a sovereign nation and our government needs to protect It’s citizens irrelevant of cost and effort needed and It’s been clear for decades that the Mexican Government will not partner with the US on any meaningful border security. At this point even if they wanted too the cartels have become more powerful than any government security forces that could be sent in to try.

I’m not under any illusion that a wall or fence will stop all the drug trafficking but I do believe we can put one hell of a dent in it if combined with proper enforcement.

If I was Trump, I would be thinking of pulling the Trump card, meaning, stop all electronic money wire transfers some 24 billion worth going across the border from undocumented/illegal Immigrants .This would definitely hurt the average Joe/Jose and there families in Mexico but may be the ember to get the Mexican Government to at least make an effort or support our efforts along the border.

For me a wall/fence and added security is a no brainer, If it decreased even a reasonable amount of drug trafficking flowing in the cost of said barrier would be a bargain compared to the cost we shoulder with the crime, addiction and all that is associated with it.
 
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woodsman said:
I’m surprised you feel this way, You must know of the issues that your state and the nation faces with an unsecured border. The Mexican side is totally controlled by the cartels and our southern border is the crossing point for 80% to 90% of the drugs that come into the US. This wall/fence and added security isn’t all about keeping out people looking for work on farms or a better quality of life. With that, I’m actually for an expanded work visa program as long as It’s administered properly.

Just the heroin use and deaths alone in the US has reached epidemic levels. The crime and despair goes far north of Texas and Mexico. It has reached my state of New Hampshire, we now lead the country in per capita addiction and the word pandemic is now common with describing this carnage.

We both know that the Mexican government is unwilling and unable to challenge these cartels because of the ingrained corruption in all levels of government . The US is a sovereign nation and our government needs to protect It’s citizens irrelevant of cost and effort needed and It’s been clear for decades that the Mexican Government will not partner with the US on any meaningful border security. At this point even if they wanted too the cartels have become more powerful than any government security forces that could be sent in to try.

I’m not under any illusion that a wall or fence will stop all the drug trafficking but I do believe we can put one hell of a dent in it if combined with proper enforcement.

If I was Trump, I would be thinking of pulling the Trump card, meaning, stop all electronic money wire transfers some 24 billion worth going across the border from undocumented/illegal Immigrants .This would definitely hurt the average Joe/Jose and there families in Mexico but may be the ember to get the Mexican Government to at least make an effort or support our efforts along the border.

For me a wall/fence and added security is a no brainer, If it decreased even a reasonable amount of drug trafficking flowing in the cost of said barrier would be a bargain compared to the cost we shoulder with the crime, addition and all that is associated with it.
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Interesting post, Woody, for real. I'll repond later when I'm not doing this on my phone.
 
Mac77 said:
Import certificates are an idea by that old liberal pirate warren buffet and I have always liked them

They ensure balanced trade where other nations have to buy from America if they want to sell to America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import_certificates
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Mac77, no; to sell to us, a nation needn’t buy from us but due tothe policy, USA couldn’t and wouldn’t sustain our chronic annual global trade deficitsof goods.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
I'm Supposn said:
Mac77, no; to sell to us, a nation needn’t buy from us but due tothe policy, USA couldn’t and wouldn’t sustain our chronic annual global trade deficitsof goods.

Respectfully, Supposn
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I disagree

We cannot sustain ourselves as an imported goods consumer nation
 
woodsman said:
I’m surprised you feel this way, You must know of the issues that your state and the nation faces with an unsecured border. The Mexican side is totally controlled by the cartels and our southern border is the crossing point for 80% to 90% of the drugs that come into the US. This wall/fence and added security isn’t all about keeping out people looking for work on farms or a better quality of life. With that, I’m actually for an expanded work visa program as long as It’s administered properly.

Just the heroin use and deaths alone in the US has reached epidemic levels. The crime and despair goes far north of Texas and Mexico. It has reached my state of New Hampshire, we now lead the country in per capita addiction and the word pandemic is now common with describing this carnage.

We both know that the Mexican government is unwilling and unable to challenge these cartels because of the ingrained corruption in all levels of government . The US is a sovereign nation and our government needs to protect It’s citizens irrelevant of cost and effort needed and It’s been clear for decades that the Mexican Government will not partner with the US on any meaningful border security. At this point even if they wanted too the cartels have become more powerful than any government security forces that could be sent in to try.

I’m not under any illusion that a wall or fence will stop all the drug trafficking but I do believe we can put one hell of a dent in it if combined with proper enforcement.

If I was Trump, I would be thinking of pulling the Trump card, meaning, stop all electronic money wire transfers some 24 billion worth going across the border from undocumented/illegal Immigrants .This would definitely hurt the average Joe/Jose and there families in Mexico but may be the ember to get the Mexican Government to at least make an effort or support our efforts along the border.

For me a wall/fence and added security is a no brainer, If it decreased even a reasonable amount of drug trafficking flowing in the cost of said barrier would be a bargain compared to the cost we shoulder with the crime, addiction and all that is associated with it.
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You want to talk about sovereign, people have an 'inalienable' right to put whatever in their bodies they want to. Not that i'm fond of cartels and the violence they resort to, but what you're advocating is total nanny state, and at the cost of billions
 
Walls that keep people out can also be used to keep you in. Remember that.
 
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