Trump orders EPA media blackout

Absentglare said:

Cutting jobs would be a bad thing.

So will dealing with the health costs of the pollution.

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" What benefits do you see from potentially removing or weakening the EPA?"

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Absentglare said:

Do you think your "private property rights" extend to poisoning my fresh water?

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Lawmakers are working to block an unprecedented power grab by the Environmental Protection Agency to use the Clean Water Act (CWA) and control land alongside ditches, gullies and other ephemeral spots by claiming the sources are part of navigable waterways.

These temporary water sources are often created by rain or snowmelt, and would make it harder for private property owners to build in their own backyards, grow crops, raise livestock and conduct other activities on their own land, lawmakers say.

“Never in the history of the CWA has federal regulation defined ditches and other upland features as ‘waters of the United States,’” said Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Rep. Nick Rahall (D-W.Va.), the ranking committee member, and Rep. Bob Gibbs (R-Ohio), chairman of the Subcommittee on Water Resources and Environment.

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Renae said:

EPA power grab to regulate ditches, gullies on private property

You're missing the reality for your idealogy. Look harder.

Let's say you had 40 acres, and there was a low spot on your land. Once in a while, it rains enough to hold water a few days. Been that way forever! Well you decide to expand your personal workshop, and the EPA comes along and tells you to tear it down and fines you because of that low spot and you didn't get "their permission".

Seeing it a bit more now?

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RBIII said:

Yes but you asked

Jobs is the answer. We could easily provide incentives for the free market to find it worth while to handle said pollution.

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Exquisitor said:

You shouldn't be building on a low spot anyway, why are you so stupid that the epa has to come tell you what to do?

I'm all for regulations, maybe in four years we will have regulations again.

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WASHINGTON – In 2007, Chantell and Michael Sackett began filling in land they had bought near Priest Lake in Idaho with dirt and rock so they could build a house.

Soon after, they received an Environmental Protection Agency order saying they were on protected wetlands and had violated the Clean Water Act by not first obtaining a permit. The Sacketts, who say they did not know their property was under such designation, tried to challenge EPA's finding that they were discharging material into a regulated wetlands.
The EPA refused a hearing. So, as their lawyer argued at the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday, the couple could not build their house and faced tens of thousands of dollars in fines if they failed to remove the dirt and restore their property to its original condition.
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And they had no way to challenge the order in court.
"If you related the facts of this case as they come to us to an ordinary homeowner," Justice Samuel Alito told Assistant U.S. Solicitor General Malcolm Stewart, representing the EPA, "don't you think most ordinary homeowners would say this kind of thing can't happen in the United States?"

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Renae said:

EPA power grab to regulate ditches, gullies on private property

You're missing the reality for your idealogy. Look harder.

Let's say you had 40 acres, and there was a low spot on your land. Once in a while, it rains enough to hold water a few days. Been that way forever! Well you decide to expand your personal workshop, and the EPA comes along and tells you to tear it down and fines you because of that low spot and you didn't get "their permission".

Seeing it a bit more now?

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Absentglare said:

You realize the solution to that problem is not to cut the entire EPA right?

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