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Where were the parents when this boy started a fire

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Who do you compare conservative parents to when they instill hatred into their children? ISIS maybe?
Well conservatives haven't shown this kind of hatred in a long time, but back when the "Taliborn Again" were losing their minds I did compare them to Al-Qaeda.
 
The kid set some signs on fire its not like he burnt an effigy of Trump what's with the outrage
 
You offer as your example of the abuse suffered by the Obama daughters the reader comments at a news site.
No, I offered shameful remarks towards Obama's daughters AND the fact I caught a few of my students calling Obama the "n word".

This, of course, was in response to THIS thread in which one random child said something crude about an adult.
Give me a break.
Try responding to my whole post. :shrug:

There is a reason why most online news outlets no longer offer reader comments: In the anonymity of the Internet, any cretin or freak with a screen name can post vicious, unhinged abuse.
As opposed to a protest, in which everyone is wearing their "Hello, my name is ____" tag, correct? :roll:

Any attack on politicians' children is awful and inexcusable. But your example is of so-called adults posting on the Internet. This thread is about a little boy among the protestors in D.C. Very different situation.
Yes...one is one child and the other is a bunch of adults picking on children. One group should know better.

Also, I can't help but notice you've ignored the fact I caught school aged children calling what was their next President the "n word", which is exactly what you asked for. I wonder why you're ignoring that.

And I'm really tired this morning, from both sides of the aisle, of all the "Yeah, but what about ____ (insert other party)."
Umm...isn't that exactly what you did? Asked for someone to give you evidence of "other party" doing the same thing?

If you're tired of it, why did you request it? After all, Tigerace didn't direct his comment towards you, you replied and asked for it.

So let me see if I have your position straight...you're tired of something which you specifically request to talk about and then when given an example, ignore said example, all the while seemingly claiming an anonymous child saying "screw you" to an adult politician is somehow worse than a bunch of adults calling a child, who is a private citizen, all sorts of hateful and racist names.

Did I get that about right?
I think the treatment that Obama had to endure from racist losers was lousy. And the way people treated the his daughters, and the Bush twins, and Chelsea Clinton, and Amy Carter, and so on....pathetic and terrible. Unfortunately adults are so damn partisan that it makes them crazy.
100% agree. It's one thing to criticize the politician, but it's something else to attack the politician's family (Hillary's husband obviously excluded for obvious reasons).

But I don't recall anti-Obama people encouraging their pre-teens to start protest fires.
No, they just called him and his family "apes" and other racist things, claimed he was a Kenyan Muslim, etc.

In other words, they were every bit as hateful, both children and adults.

To be clear, I'm not saying either is the right way to behave and were that child mine, he wouldn't have been in the middle of a protest in the first place. But let's not pretend the hatred exists only one side or the other.
 
I would never pretend this. But anonymous adults posting ignorant, vile comments as a news site's readers isn't the same as a kid protesting on the streets and saying "Screw _____."

I would also never pretend that the Obama girls were treated the way the Bush twins were. And I'm glad for that, BTW. Let's hope that decent people leave 10-year old Barron Trump alone too.
 
I would never pretend this. But anonymous adults posting ignorant, vile comments as a news site's readers isn't the same as a kid protesting on the streets and saying "Screw _____."
Agreed, it is far worse. A ten year old child has the excuse of ignorance (and, I guess, in some way more courage to face the music, so to speak), an anonymous adult has no such excuse and they are just a vile person doing/saying vile things without accountability.

You would agree an adult saying hateful things about a child is far worse than a child saying "screw you" to an adult politician, would you not?
I would also never pretend that the Obama girls were treated the way the Bush twins were.
And are you going to acknowledge that children were calling Obama the "n word" or not? I've submitted it multiple times and you've yet to acknowledge it.

EDIT: Also, I have a question which I request you wear your moderator hat, if you don't mind. I noticed when I write "n word" with quotes around it (the actual word), it is not censored. Is that allowed under the rules? Or should the auto censor catch that? Thanks in advance.
 
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100% agree. It's one thing to criticize the politician, but it's something else to attack the politician's family (Hillary's husband obviously excluded for obvious reasons).

No, they just called him and his family "apes" and other racist things, claimed he was a Kenyan Muslim, etc.

In other words, they were every bit as hateful, both children and adults.

To be clear, I'm not saying either is the right way to behave and were that child mine, he wouldn't have been in the middle of a protest in the first place. But let's not pretend the hatred exists only one side or the other.

I totally agree that adults were nasty to the Obamas, just like I said. Kids, him, his wife, etc. People were also nasty to the Bushes and Clintons and Carters. I wasn't pretending that hatred only exists on one side? Not sure how you got that out of my post. What I said was I don't recall anti-Obama people encouraging their pre-teens to start protest fires. And I don't.
 
I totally agree that adults were nasty to the Obamas, just like I said. Kids, him, his wife, etc. People were also nasty to the Bushes and Clintons and Carters. I wasn't pretending that hatred only exists on one side? Not sure how you got that out of my post. What I said was I don't recall anti-Obama people encouraging their pre-teens to start protest fires. And I don't.
And I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying whether they encourage their children to say "Screw you, Trump" and light a fire or call the Obamas racist things, it's really the same thing.

For what it is worth, I don't believe you and I are disagreeing. I believe we're both saying people should be respectful and that too many people are not. :thumbs:
 
Agreed, it is far worse. A ten year old child has the excuse of ignorance (and, I guess, in some way more courage to face the music, so to speak), an anonymous adult has no such excuse and they are just a vile person doing/saying vile things without accountability.

You would agree an adult saying hateful things about a child is far worse than a child saying "screw you" to an adult politician, would you not?
And are you going to acknowledge that children were calling Obama the "n word" or not? I've submitted it multiple times and you've yet to acknowledge it.

EDIT: Also, I have a question which I request you wear your moderator hat, if you don't mind. I noticed when I write "n word" with quotes around it (the actual word), it is not censored. Is that allowed under the rules? Or should the auto censor catch that? Thanks in advance.

This is Rule 7a, whose explanation concludes with "The 'F word,' the 'S word,' and the 'C word' will be auto-censored in all their varied forms." http://www.debatepolitics.com/misc.php?do=vsarules

The "n-word" is not auto-censored, but if it's used as a slur, it's a problem. If I were quoting Countee Cullen's "Incident's" verse, however, it wouldn't be:

Now I was eight and very small,
And he was no whit bigger,
And so I smiled, but he poked out
His tongue, and called me, 'Nigger.' https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/incident/

I posted the verse because this poem has broken my heart my entire life.
 
And I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying whether they encourage their children to say "Screw you, Trump" and light a fire or call the Obamas racist things, it's really the same thing.

For what it is worth, I don't believe you and I are disagreeing. I believe we're both saying people should be respectful and that too many people are not. :thumbs:

That's exactly what we're saying. Here's to agreeing on this Friday afternoon!
 
That clip brought tears to my eyes. This will follow this young man for the rest of his life. I wonder who his parents are? Are they protesting against Trump being a fascist, hate monger, racists while letting their child resort to such an act of violence? How many were and are cheering this young man?
Makes me sick to my stomach.

What a huge comparison. This 10 year old and Baron Trump.
 
And I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying whether they encourage their children to say "Screw you, Trump" and light a fire or call the Obamas racist things, it's really the same thing.

For what it is worth, I don't believe you and I are disagreeing. I believe we're both saying people should be respectful and that too many people are not. :thumbs:

Are you a teacher?

If so, do you not know that words and actions are not the same.

It is not just as bad to make a comment as to commit arson.
 
Are you a teacher?

If so, do you not know that words and actions are not the same.
I am and I do. But boys start fires all the time...the only reason this fire made this thread was because he said "Screw you, Trump". So let's not pretend like you care that he started a fire, it's the hate being expressed which is what is concerning. Hate is hate, regardless of the form it takes.
 
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