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Just read an interesting article on brietbart. The article will automatically be wrong in the eyes of lefties, since the source is brietbart, but here it is anyway:

Trump Jobs Boom Continues Before Inauguration Day - Breitbart

It would be interesting to see the lefties here go in and do their obligatory dispute of this thread by posting how exactly the article is wrong instead of dismissing it simply because of the source.

My assumption here is that lefties will feel that the jobs boom is all because of Obama, so please post why this is if you feel compelled to move the credit for the jobs boom from Trump over to Obama.
 
EvMetro said:
Just read an interesting article on brietbart. The article will automatically be wrong in the eyes of lefties, since the source is brietbart, but here it is anyway:

Trump Jobs Boom Continues Before Inauguration Day - Breitbart

It would be interesting to see the lefties here go in and do their obligatory dispute of this thread by posting how exactly the article is wrong instead of dismissing it simply because of the source.

My assumption here is that lefties will feel that the jobs boom is all because of Obama, so please post why this is if you feel compelled to move the credit for the jobs boom from Trump over to Obama.
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Why, things like that take 6 months to a year or more to plan.. which is long before Trump even became the nominee.. so, it can't be attributed to Trump. The ones that are expanding their jobs say it's Market forces. Of course, when it comes to amazon, that is something that has been brewing for quite a while, and it comes at the price of the 'box stores' closing, and a shift in the market.
 
So Trump is not even in office, has not had any policies actually enacted, the election was only 2 months ago, Trumps approval rating is low which people excused as he is not in office yet and done anything, but in some magical fairy dust manner Trump has created a job boom

Perhaps Trumpettes need to share what they are smoking
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
So Trump is not even in office, has not had any policies actually enacted, the election was only 2 months ago, Trumps approval rating is low which people excused as he is not in office yet and done anything, but in some magical fairy dust manner Trump has created a job boom

Perhaps Trumpettes need to share what they are smoking
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They are not smoking anything. They already live in a state of altered reality simply through the power of self imposed beliefs.
 
EvMetro said:
Just read an interesting article on brietbart. The article will automatically be wrong in the eyes of lefties, since the source is brietbart, but here it is anyway:

Trump Jobs Boom Continues Before Inauguration Day - Breitbart

It would be interesting to see the lefties here go in and do their obligatory dispute of this thread by posting how exactly the article is wrong instead of dismissing it simply because of the source.

My assumption here is that lefties will feel that the jobs boom is all because of Obama, so please post why this is if you feel compelled to move the credit for the jobs boom from Trump over to Obama.
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Considering that many of those were months in the planning BEFORE the election and before trump was picked as the GOP nominee how can YOU attribute them to Trump?
 
EvMetro said:
Just read an interesting article on brietbart. The article will automatically be wrong in the eyes of lefties, since the source is brietbart, but here it is anyway:

Trump Jobs Boom Continues Before Inauguration Day - Breitbart

It would be interesting to see the lefties here go in and do their obligatory dispute of this thread by posting how exactly the article is wrong instead of dismissing it simply because of the source.

My assumption here is that lefties will feel that the jobs boom is all because of Obama, so please post why this is if you feel compelled to move the credit for the jobs boom from Trump over to Obama.
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I just read something interesting too. GM is laying off 2,000 workers in Ohio on Friday the 20th. Some are publicly asking Trump to save them. Don't forget to deduct those from the "boom" total.
 
To me the most amazing facet of all this is not the Breitbart fantasy, but that the Breitbart editor is in the White House! :doh
 
Chomsky said:
To me the most amazing facet of all this is not the Breitbart fantasy, but that the Breitbart editor is in the White House! :doh
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A ready made propaganda arm to feed fake news to the Trumpettes
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
A ready made propaganda arm to feed fake news to the Trumpettes
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Of course.

Take it right to your supporters via tweets & alt-right sources, and toss the legit press out of the White House!

An autocrat's dream!
 
trblmkr said:
I just read something interesting too. GM is laying off 2,000 workers in Ohio on Friday the 20th. Some are publicly asking Trump to save them. Don't forget to deduct those from the "boom" total.
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Can't do it. The trump jobs calculator only has an ADDITION button - not a SUBTRACTION button.
 
Chomsky said:
Of course.

Take it right to your supporters via tweets & alt-right sources, and toss the legit press out of the White House!

An autocrat's dream!
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It is often said that when authoritarianism comes marching to the United States, the red white and blue will precede it in the parade. Its coming true right before our very eyes.
 
haymarket said:
It is often said that when authoritarianism comes marching to the United States, the red white and blue will precede it in the parade. Its coming true right before our very eyes.
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Well, look at my Sinclair Lewis quote in my sig.

Trump personally may lack a bit in carrying the cross or Bible, but the GOP more than make up for it! ;)
 
trblmkr said:
I just read something interesting too. GM is laying off 2,000 workers in Ohio on Friday the 20th. Some are publicly asking Trump to save them. Don't forget to deduct those from the "boom" total.
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Without trump there would not be as many new jobs offsetting the job losses
 
Mac77 said:
Without trump there would not be as many new jobs offsetting the job losses
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Really? That claim sounds like a lot of rhetoric to me.
 
RAMOSS said:
Why, things like that take 6 months to a year or more to plan.. which is long before Trump even became the nominee.. so, it can't be attributed to Trump. The ones that are expanding their jobs say it's Market forces. Of course, when it comes to amazon, that is something that has been brewing for quite a while, and it comes at the price of the 'box stores' closing, and a shift in the market.
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correct, these moves have been awhile in the making, and trump can't claim them...
 
randel said:
correct, these moves have been awhile in the making, and trump can't claim them...
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Generally, the first of of a presidency's economy can be attributed to the polices of the congress and the president that was the previous years.

So, 2001 can be given to Clinton, 2009 can be given to Bush, and 2017 can be given to Obama, while 2021 can be given to Trump (or 2225 if he's two terms)
 
RAMOSS said:
Why, things like that take 6 months to a year or more to plan.. which is long before Trump even became the nominee.. so, it can't be attributed to Trump. The ones that are expanding their jobs say it's Market forces. Of course, when it comes to amazon, that is something that has been brewing for quite a while, and it comes at the price of the 'box stores' closing, and a shift in the market.
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There is no indication in the article that these announcements have been in the planning stage for any length of time. That means these could be brand new decisions made AFTER Trump won the election...and they are now entering their planning stages. The fact that no such announcements were made before the election supports the notion that these businesses are making decisions based on Trump win and their guess as to which way the governmental winds are now blowing.
 
Mycroft said:
There is no indication in the article that these announcements have been in the planning stage for any length of time. That means these could be brand new decisions made AFTER Trump won the election...and they are now entering their planning stages. The fact that no such announcements were made before the election supports the notion that these businesses are making decisions based on Trump win and their guess as to which way the governmental winds are now blowing.
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Not all of them, but that would be expected, you don't have to talk about how long you were planning. They did say 'Market conditions' though, and anybody who has been through business planning knows it take a while to get a business plan together on the scales they were talking about.
 
RAMOSS said:
Not all of them, but that would be expected, you don't have to talk about how long you were planning. They did say 'Market conditions' though, and anybody who has been through business planning knows it take a while to get a business plan together on the scales they were talking about.
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Who knows if they actually have a "business plan" put together?
 
Mycroft said:
Who knows if they actually have a "business plan" put together?
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For the automotive industry they have to

It takes years to get a car from the proposal stage to actual production and if it is an all new model (new engine, tranny, platform) a few billion dollars. It is not something they will do on a whim only to change their mind a few months later unless drastic market condition changes have occurred
 
EvMetro said:
Just read an interesting article on brietbart. The article will automatically be wrong in the eyes of lefties, since the source is brietbart, but here it is anyway:
Trump Jobs Boom Continues Before Inauguration Day - Breitbart
It would be interesting to see the lefties here go in and do their obligatory dispute of this thread by posting how exactly the article is wrong instead of dismissing it simply because of the source.
My assumption here is that lefties will feel that the jobs boom is all because of Obama, so please post why this is if you feel compelled to move the credit for the jobs boom from Trump over to Obama.
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I knew you/someone was coming.
Now, the poster who wants to make EVERYTHING "Biased", and alt-Breitbart just another "fair" News source.. like ABC.
No, everyone who disagrees with Breitbark is NOT a "Lefty".
Some continue to have a mission to redefine reality with Fake News and Fake History.

as we neared 'Full Employment: 4.6% with very good wage growth
Trump won in an Upset on Nov 9.
The October Jobs Report:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/government-spending-and-debt/271766-wage-growth-fire.html
mbig said:
I wonder if Trump/GOPers will take credit for this in 2017's good Stats.
They Will, and I will refer to this post to show the economy was already picking up, and wage growth already rising due to the Longest Recovery in US economic history. Near full employment is finally raising the bottom's wages.
However, if Trump does get rid of some of these ILLEGALS who depress the bottom's wages, he too can claim credit.
I support E-verify: No National ID, NO job.

Wage Growth Is Galloping Higher at Its Fastest Pace in Nearly Eight Years
A new cycle high.
Luke Kawa - Bloomberg - November 15, 2016
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...her-at-its-fastest-pace-in-nearly-eight-years

Wage growth is on fire.

The Atlanta Fed's Wage Growth Tracker indicates that the median U.S. worker saw pay rise by 3.9% year-over-year in October, the fastest rate of growth since November 2008.

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This number comes on the heels of October's non-farm payrolls report, which showed average hourly earnings increasing at the fastest annual clip of this current expansion, a sign that the economy is getting close to full employment.

The Atlanta Fed's wage metric tracks the incomes of individual workers over time, and as such is not prone to the composition effects — like the exit of higher-paid baby boomers from the labor force — that have weighed on the usual measure of average hourly earnings this cycle.

"Average hourly earnings are more susceptible to compositional and demographic changes in the labor force, while the tracker is comparing the wages of the same individuals over time, providing a unique insight into wage growth,"
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