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Piss Gate: FBI Covered for Trump

Wow. Conservatives and Republicans all over this site defending and excusing Russians and the ex-KGB Butcher V. Putin.

I never thought I'd see the day this would happen, simply because of politics. Conservatives have become the most gullible, hypocritical demographic is the country. By a mile.
 
reinoe said:
The CIA refused to cooperate with Congress because they needed time to fabricate the information. That's where the 35 page dossier came from and that's why it's so damn flimsy.
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Really? That's what kind of country you live in?
Must suck.
 
Captain America said:
"I stay in hotels, tear out the walls. I have accountants, pay for it all." ******** Joe Walsh.

Actually, this Trump thing with the golden showers and all, if true, shows Trump to be quite creative. Very imaginative. Maybe I need to get my head checked but all that is kinda funny to me. I just can't muster up any faux rage about it.

Seriously. It makes me belly laugh to the point of snorting. What's wrong with me?
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I don't have a problem with his hobby. I have a problem with the cover up, especially if the Russians had knowledge of it while the American public was kept in the dark on the matter until after the election.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Wow. Conservatives and Republicans all over this site defending and excusing Russians and the ex-KGB Butcher V. Putin.

I never thought I'd see the day this would happen, simply because of politics. Conservatives have become the most gullible, hypocritical demographic is the country. By a mile.
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For them Party always comes before country.
 
Putin's no dummy. Divide and Conquer.

Thanks to 8 years of hate and obstruction by the Right we are already pretty divided. Now conquer. And the timing might be right on for him to do it.
 
Captain America said:
"I stay in hotels, tear out the walls. I have accountants, pay for it all." ******** Joe Walsh.

Actually, this Trump thing with the golden showers and all, if true, shows Trump to be quite creative. Very imaginative. Maybe I need to get my head checked but all that is kinda funny to me. I just can't muster up any faux rage about it.

Seriously. It makes me belly laugh to the point of snorting. What's wrong with me?
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not getting STDs sleeping around was trump's Vietnam.

trump's own words to Stern.

Which didn't matter because trump's smears of Sen. McCain and Prisoners of War didn't matter to Veterans .
 
reinoe said:
Isn't Christopher Steele the guy who was getting paid to make up stories about Trump as part of his opposition research firm? Yeah, that's right and now he's fled his home because he doesn't want to have to face any questions about the stories he was fabricating: instead he's chosen to flee. He should be making the rounds on all sorts of media telling his story if it were true.
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No Christopher Steele is was one of MI6’s most eminent Russia specialists.

Christopher Steele: Spy And Alleged Author of Trump Dossier

He is not some random guy writing fake news. Though his work is not (or not yet) verified, as one of the world's foremost experts on Russian intelligence, he is a credible author.

SenorXm/Sirius said:
Wow. Conservatives and Republicans all over this site defending and excusing Russians and the ex-KGB Butcher V. Putin.

I never thought I'd see the day this would happen, simply because of politics. Conservatives have become the most gullible, hypocritical demographic is the country. By a mile.
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It just shows you more loyalty to party than to country, but oddly, with great disrespect to the principles of that party.

Ronald Reagan is no longer resting in peace. Soon to return as the ghost of Conservative past.
 
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NIMBY said:
not getting STDs sleeping around was trump's Vietnam.

trump's own words to Stern.

Which didn't matter because trump's smears of Sen. McCain and Prisoners of War didn't matter to Veterans .
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The only way Trump can lose the support of the Kool Aide brigade is if the judge he appoints to SCOTUS is pro Roe v Wade. If he did that, they would turn on him in a NY minute.
 
upsideguy said:
No Christopher Steele is was one of MI6’s most eminent Russia specialists.

Christopher Steele: Spy And Alleged Author of Trump Dossier

He is not some random guy writing fake news. Though his work is not (or not yet) verified, as one of the world's foremost experts on Russian intelligence, he is a credible author.



It just shows you more loyalty to party than to country, but oddly, with great disrespect to the principles of that party.

Ronald Reagan is no longer resting in peace. Soon to return as the ghost of Conservative past.
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Has MI6 done any better than American Intel in following Russia over say the last Decade, cause I gotta say "one of the world's foremost experts on Russian intelligence" aint what it used to be given the nearly complete failure of the American in this area.....
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Has MI6 done any better than American Intel in following Russia over say the last Decade, cause I gotta say "one of the world's foremost experts on Russian intelligence" aint what it used to be given the nearly complete failure of the American in this area.....
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OK, you are one of those that have entered the dark place where facts are fake news and experts are idiots. You do realize that without some constancy of respect for facts, education and expertise, we do not have a court system and we don't have a civilization.

I suggest you grow up, or if you really believe its the voices in your head that are telling you the truth and everyone else are idiots, then find yourself a non-expert physician for your next surgery or be your own lawyer next time you need one of those.

For those of us that live in the real world, where facts and expertise matter, which is fortunately the majority of us, the fact this guy is an expert in Russian Intelligence matters. It is what gives this thing some legs within the intelligence community and it is why we are talking about it. If you chose to dismiss it in your ignorance, be our guest.

But I will indulge you: please explain the "complete failure of the American in this area"

Now, in all of that, I am not saying it is true. I am only saying the author is credible.
 
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calamity said:
The only way Trump can lose the support of the Kool Aide brigade is if the judge he appoints to SCOTUS is pro Roe v Wade. If he did that, they would turn on him in a NY minute.
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trump is savvy enough not to do that with Ryan, McConnell, Pence, and Priebus advising him.

He has his Heritage Foundation list for 99 judges and McConnell will pull the nuclear trigger Nixon first opined on in 1957.

Since trump has tweeted back at Lewis, DEMs must develop their own retweeters who are well-known, popular and photogenic(like Pence).

Sooner or later, your Sen. S. Brown will have to decide what kind of campaign he will run in 2018. I see him as just as endangered as the red-state DEM Senators .
 
upsideguy said:
OK, you are one of those that have entered the dark place where facts are fake news and experts are idiots. You do realize that without some constancy of respect for facts, education and expertise, we do not have a court system and we don't have a civilization.

I suggest you grow up, or if you really believe its the voices in your head that are telling you the truth and everyone else are idiots, then find yourself a non-expert physician for your next surgery or be your own lawyer next time you need one of those.

For those of us that live in the real world, where facts and expertise matter, which is fortunately the majority of us, the fact this guy is an expert in Russian Intelligence matters. It is what gives this thing some legs within the intelligence community and it is why we are talking about it. If you chose to dismiss it in your ignorance, be our guest.

But I will indulge you: please explain the "complete failure of the American in this area"

Now, in all of that, I am not saying it is true. I am only saying the author is credible.
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Putin has done what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it, with the Americans never seeing it coming....thinking of Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, the military expanding rapidly with quality stuff taking in the some of the global tactics out of the Soviet playbook, the rapidly developing strong partnership with China.......all of this we are given to understand American intel did not see coming, nor did the Americans respond very well to, thus Putin keeps winning.

And stop claiming that I am crazy. It is not polite, and around here CIVILITY IS A MUST we are told. Also it gives me the idea that you are not someone with enough sense to be worth talking to.
 
eohrnberger said:
I've heard reported, but have not searched for citations, the following sequence of events.

  • 9/2015: GOP donor hires Fusion GPS to compile Trump opposition research (Rubio camp?)
  • Spring 2016: Clinton allies begin paying Fusion GPS for Trump opposition research
  • 6/2016: Fusion GPS hires former MI6 Chris Steele to investigate Trump ties to Russia
  • Steele talks with some Russian contacts and beings sending memos of the gossip he’s heard back to Fusion GPS
  • 8/2016 those memos from Steele find their way to the FBI – ABC News Brian Ross
  • Halloween, a far-left magazine ran a story about the anti-Trump operation
  • To its credit, the national media ignores this story at this time.
  • 1st week of January 2017, Obama gets briefed on Russian hacking, these memos or summaries thereof, were included in the brief
  • This week, VP Biden stated that Obama questioned why the gossip was even included in the briefing, to Obama’s credit
  • Next day, Trump received the same briefing from the same intelligence personnel
  • House ‘gang of 8’ also received the same briefing
  • A short time after this briefing, CNN receives a leak, presumably from one of the gang of 8, that both Trump and Obama received this information in their intel briefings
  • And all hell breaks loose
Seems pretty reasonable.



Given the above, it doesn't reconcile with your assertion. But I have to admit, with what's currently known and understood in the public about this, we probably wouldn't know for certain one way or another.
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Excellent summary of waht we know about the confusing time line. Next step: who paid Fusion? Was Fusion, and through them Orbis (Steel) paid twice, first by GOP and then by DP?

One question that has been nagging me is how did Steel, who has not been in Russia for 20 years, supposedly communicate with his 'sources'? Every method open to him would be open to interception by Russian security. Might the 'sources', if they actually exist, be under FSB control?
 
Sweden said:
Excellent summary of waht we know about the confusing time line. Next step: who paid Fusion? Was Fusion, and through them Orbis (Steel) paid twice, first by GOP and then by DP?

One question that has been nagging me is how did Steel, who has not been in Russia for 20 years, supposedly communicate with his 'sources'? Every method open to him would be open to interception by Russian security. Might the 'sources', if they actually exist, be under FSB control?
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See there you go...thinking too much......

*sarcasm*
 
calamity said:
I don't have a problem with his hobby. I have a problem with the cover up, especially if the Russians had knowledge of it while the American public was kept in the dark on the matter until after the election.
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There's no hobby of that which is Trump's other than in your fevered imagination, or perhaps in the fevered imaginations of some Russians pissing in Steele's drink.
 
Sweden said:
Excellent summary of waht we know about the confusing time line. Next step: who paid Fusion? Was Fusion, and through them Orbis (Steel) paid twice, first by GOP and then by DP?

One question that has been nagging me is how did Steel, who has not been in Russia for 20 years, supposedly communicate with his 'sources'? Every method open to him would be open to interception by Russian security. Might the 'sources', if they actually exist, be under FSB control?
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Apparently a Rubio donor or PAC was the first to pay Fusion GPS, and similar for Hillary's campaign later. Paid one or twice is really immaterial, although I'd guess they were paid twice.

No information that I know of about the Russians who contributed the contents of their fevered imaginations.
 
NIMBY said:
The conservative loons you speak of make up the foundation of trumpistan and GOPrussia .
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People who mock birthers shouldn't believe in idiotic conspiracies themselves. First the lib-tard conspiracy of Russia hacking emails to help Trump win and when that didn't work now idiotic claims of Trump and golden showers. I have to wonder what idiotic conspiracy lib-tards will come out with next.
 
jamesrage said:
People who mock birthers shouldn't believe in idiotic conspiracies themselves. First the lib-tard conspiracy of Russia hacking emails to help Trump win and when that didn't work now idiotic claims of Trump and golden showers. I have to wonder what idiotic conspiracy lib-tards will come out with next.
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They have a hard time topping that "I can see Russia from my house." thing from 9 years ago...but they keep trying.
 
Mycroft said:
They have a hard time topping that "I can see Russia from my house." thing from 9 years ago...but they keep trying.
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I think the left actually managed to get most people believe that SNL spoof was what Palin said.
 
joG said:
No doubt. We want to know. If laws were broken, we must know. But acting like headless chickens is just what Putin would want. It was the goal of his aggression.
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Actually, acting like headless chickens is what the Democrats and sundry liberals want. Putin is just sitting back, watching the show...and eating popcorn.
 
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