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Deportations Drop 73% Under Obama, Hit 43-Year Annual Low

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[FONT=&quot]Deportations of illegal aliens living inside the United States have tanked 73 percent since 2009, when President Obama first took office, according to [/FONT]a new report[FONT=&quot] from the Center for Immigration Studies.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]CIS analyzed the most recent annual report released by the Department of Homeland Security, which states that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed only 65,332 illegal aliens from the interior of the U.S. in FY2016 (roughly .5 percent of the estimated 12 million currently known to be living here unlawfully).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The immigration analysis group noted that those 65,000 or so deportations reflect a 73 percent drop in interior removals since 2009, when roughly 240,000 illegal aliens were deported from inside the U.S.[/FONT]
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Deportations Drop 73% Under Obama, Hit 43-Year Annual Low | MRCTV
/smh
 
Mr Person said:
Try the ICE website, not whatever the **** mrctv.org "blog" is. But, you wouldn't like the facts there. They show that although deportations and turn-aways have changed on a yearly basis, they've been roughly the same since the new counting method was started in the mid-90s.
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Interior, L2Read
 
Renae said:
Interior, L2Read
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Ummm.....yeah...about that:




Mr Person said:
Try the ICE website, not whatever the **** mrctv.org "blog" is. But, you wouldn't like the facts there. They show that although deportations and turn-aways have changed on a yearly basis, they've been roughly the same since the new counting method was started in the mid-90s.
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The number of each changes on a yearly basis but the totals are roughly the same for the last few presidents and they actually went up for parts of Obama's reign. More turnaways = more people caught trying to enter, who don't need to go through costly immigration detention and deportation proceedings.

It's actually better that Obama's admin turned away more people because it means we didn't have to pay money for the horse and pony show of deportation. Yet your thread title reads as if lower deportation numbers (as opposed to turnaways) is a bad sign.



If you're going to personally insult me by saying I don't know how to read, you should probably pay more attention to what it is I've actually typed out.
 
truthatallcost said:
Snopes has determined that to be True

They've also determined that Hillary Clinton is our real president and that Donald Trump is a 'Rushin Spy'.
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let me see if i got this straight. because the OP says deportations are way down you post a question wondering how many illegals there are in country. are we saying rush needs to be deported? this thread is getting shall i say convoluted.
 
Mr Person said:
Ummm.....yeah...about that:






The number of each changes on a yearly basis but the totals are roughly the same for the last few presidents and they actually went up for parts of Obama's reign. More turnaways = more people caught trying to enter, who don't need to go through costly immigration detention and deportation proceedings.

It's actually better that Obama's admin turned away more people because it means we didn't have to pay money for the horse and pony show of deportation. Yet your thread title reads as if lower deportation numbers (as opposed to turnaways) is a bad sign.



If you're going to personally insult me by saying I don't know how to read, you should probably pay more attention to what it is I've actually typed out.
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed only 65,332 illegal aliens from the interior of the U.S. in FY2016 (roughly .5 percent of the estimated 12 million currently known to be living here unlawfully).
The immigration analysis group noted that those 65,000 or so deportations reflect a 73 percent drop in interior removals since 2009, when roughly 240,000 illegal aliens were deported from inside the U.S.
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the turn away number is thos estopped at the border. Have a nice day.
 
katzgar said:
let me see if i got this straight. because the OP says deportations are way down you post a question wondering how many illegals there are in country. are we saying rush needs to be deported? this thread is getting shall i say convoluted.
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I was asking because I don't think anyone really knows the answer, including you.
 
katzgar said:
reread the OP
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OK thanks, 12 million.

The same number from 11 years ago .

President Bush is pushing for a guest-worker program that could provide temporary legal status to some of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants. Many of his fellow Republicans are taking a more restrictive stance.
500,000 March in L.A. Against Immigration Bill
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So Obama deported 2,500,000 people, Bush deported a quarter of a million in 2007-08, and we still have the exact same number of illegals as we did over a decade ago.

I'll just get my 'I Believe Anything the MSM Tells Me' bumper sticker, and be on my way. :2wave:
 
Renae said:
the turn away number is thos estopped at the border. Have a nice day.
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I know that because I've previously read the ICE reports. Reread this:

Mr Person said:
Try the ICE website, not whatever the **** mrctv.org "blog" is. But, you wouldn't like the facts there. They show that although deportations and turn-aways have changed on a yearly basis, they've been roughly the same since the new counting method was started in the mid-90s.
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And this:

Mr Person said:
Ummm.....yeah...about that:

[Renae insult towards me omitted]

The number of each changes on a yearly basis but the totals are roughly the same for the last few presidents and they actually went up for parts of Obama's reign. More turnaways = more people caught trying to enter, who don't need to go through costly immigration detention and deportation proceedings.

It's actually better that Obama's admin turned away more people because it means we didn't have to pay money for the horse and pony show of deportation. Yet your thread title reads as if lower deportation numbers (as opposed to turnaways) is a bad sign.

If you're going to personally insult me by saying I don't know how to read, you should probably pay more attention to what it is I've actually typed out.
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It thought it was fairly obvious that I know the distinction between turn-aways and deportations, seeing as how I argued that actually, more turnaways=better. We don't have to spend as much to get rid of them.

We still deport violent illegals, but because money doesn't grow on trees, we don't go search all of them out, put them all in newly built prisons, and deport them with massively expanded personnel and carriers.
 
katzgar said:
reread the OP
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truthatallcost said:
OK thanks, 12 million.

The same number from 11 years ago .

So Obama deported 2,500,000 people, Bush deported a quarter of a million in 2007-08, and we still have the exact same number of illegals as we did over a decade ago.

I'll just get my 'I Believe Anything the MSM Tells Me' bumper sticker, and be on my way. :2wave:
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Take that, Katzgar!

You're wrong because Mr. "Truth" assumes that there is a physical law saying that once a certain number of illegals - estimated number, no less :doh - have been said to be within the states, that number can never be repeated. Further, Mr. "Truth" thinks that time distortions have affected immigration, such that 8 years of Obama can be compared to and ONLY to 2 years of Bush.
 
Were turnaway's counted as deportations under Bush? I know they were under Obama.
 
Mr Person said:
Take that, Katzgar!

You're wrong because Mr. "Truth" assumes that there is a physical law saying that once a certain number of illegals - estimated number, no less :doh - have been said to be within the states, that number can never be repeated. Further, Mr. "Truth" thinks that time distortions have affected immigration, such that 8 years of Obama can be compared to and ONLY to 2 years of Bush.
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So you got the bumper sticker already. Sweet!
 
truthatallcost said:
So you got the bumper sticker already. Sweet!
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You mean you don't have an answer for:

1. Why you ignored the cost differential between better border security (turn-aways up) and deportations (expensive)?

2. Why you compared 2 years of Bush stats to 8 years of Obama stats?

3. Why you assumed that rates of successful entry were exactly the same every year?



Could you please finally give a direct answer to a question? You can even lie if you like, but at least stay on the subject.
 
Mr Person said:
You mean you don't have an answer for:

1. Why you ignored the cost differential between better border security (turn-aways up) and deportations (expensive)?
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Where is your proof that border security has improved? More apprehensions? I've talked to border agents who say they catch 1 out of every 10 people who try to cross. Have you ever spoken with actual border patrol and seen what they have to say? It's not the rosy bull**** that MSNBC is telling you.

2. Why you compared 2 years of Bush stats to 8 years of Obama stats?
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Not the point. I wasn't "comparing" stats. Stop looking for a partisan angle in everything you read. I was showing that the MSM/government number of 12m has remained unchanged, despite 2,750,000 total deportations since 2007.

The '12 million illegals' figure seems to be permanently etched in stone.


3. Why you assumed that rates of successful entry were exactly the same every year?
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According to you, Obama is deporting more than any president in history, and preventing illegals from entering. So why is the number still 12m? Obama needs to capitalize on this and tell the world there's only 9-10 million illegals here, thanks to him. Everyone else is lying their ass off about this subject, he might as well get in on it too.
 
truthatallcost said:
OK thanks, 12 million.

The same number from 11 years ago .



So Obama deported 2,500,000 people, Bush deported a quarter of a million in 2007-08, and we still have the exact same number of illegals as we did over a decade ago.

I'll just get my 'I Believe Anything the MSM Tells Me' bumper sticker, and be on my way. :2wave:
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nope, you got it wrong again
 
katzgar said:
nope, you got it wrong again
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2006 # of illegal immigrants - 12 million
2017 # of illegal immigrants - 12 million

2007-2016 deportations- 2,750,000

Am I the only one who knows what math is?
 
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