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"Gaslighting"

Dragonfly

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Donald Trump is 'gaslighting' all of us(Opinion) - CNN.com

Does this sound familiar?
He uses a variety of truth-blurring techniques. His goal is to exert power and control by creating doubts about what is real and what isn't
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I like this bit:
tactical tampering with the truth
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And then there's this:
The techniques include saying and doing things and then denying it, blaming others for misunderstanding, disparaging their concerns as oversensitivity, claiming outrageous statements were jokes or misunderstandings, and other forms of twilighting the truth.
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Time will tell won't it.
 
MaggieD said:
Yeah, it sounds familiar. It sounds like THE NEWS MEDIA.

But since you seem to think it applies to Donald Trump, how about less flapping fingers and a some examples?
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Trump is a liar...plain and simple
 
MaggieD said:
Yeah, it sounds familiar. It sounds like THE NEWS MEDIA.

But since you seem to think it applies to Donald Trump, how about less flapping fingers and a some examples?
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You want examples of Donald Trump "saying and doing things and then denying it, blaming others for misunderstanding, disparaging their concerns as oversensitivity, claiming outrageous statements were jokes or misunderstandings, and other forms of twilighting the truth" ?

Seriously ?
 
Dragonfly said:
Donald Trump is 'gaslighting' all of us(Opinion) - CNN.com

Does this sound familiar?


I like this bit:


And then there's this:



Time will tell won't it.
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And he's very good at it. But it makes it easier for him to get away with this stuff because his supporters will excuse and defend any thing he does, and any lie he tells.

I am convinced he can literally shot someone on 5th ave. AND his cult like followers will still defend and excuse him. We see this type of behavior from his supporters daily.

It's dangerous as hell though. Let an egomaniac like Trump feel there will be no consequences to his actions? That's dangerous as hell!!
 
Cisero said:
You want examples of Donald Trump "saying and doing things and then denying it, blaming others for misunderstanding, disparaging their concerns as oversensitivity, claiming outrageous statements were jokes or misunderstandings, and other forms of twilighting the truth" ?

Seriously ?
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Yes, please.
 
Cisero said:
You want examples of Donald Trump "saying and doing things and then denying it, blaming others for misunderstanding, disparaging their concerns as oversensitivity, claiming outrageous statements were jokes or misunderstandings, and other forms of twilighting the truth" ?

Seriously ?
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He does that literally all the time.
 
MaggieD said:
Yes, please.
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Ok...

Trump denying
17 things Donald Trump said and then denied saying

Trump blaming for misunderstanding

Trump : "If there was a misunderstanding on McCain remarks I'd take them back
6 times Donald Trump feld the media misunderstood him

Trump disparaging concerns as oversensitivity

Trump "Ban all muslims" - People are too PC

Trump says it was a joke
Trump insist China inveted Global Warming was a joke
"It was a joke! Trump dismisses the controversy [...]
Trump : "I was only joking"


But hey, feel free to deny these sources (dailymail, washingtonpost, politifact, time, usatoday, mediaite) & do aaaaall the mental gymnastics you want.
 
MaggieD said:
Yeah, it sounds familiar. It sounds like THE NEWS MEDIA.

But since you seem to think it applies to Donald Trump, how about less flapping fingers and a some examples?
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Woo hoo!!! Look at you getting all defensive and crap.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much?

#1) I didn't write the piece I linked to
#2) What do YOU think "time will tell won't it" actually means?
#3) the article I linked in the OP gives perfectly fine, and plausible examples
 
Dragonfly said:
Donald Trump is 'gaslighting' all of us(Opinion) - CNN.com

Does this sound familiar?


I like this bit:


And then there's this:



Time will tell won't it.
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That is out of the nonlinear war handbook and what Putin's people have been practicing with increasing skills for the last 10 or more years. It has been very successful for him. Whether it will continue to be is an interesting question. After all, the first assumption must now be that Russia is out to harm us and uses faked info, is never to be believed.
 
DaveFagan said:
He sounds like a natural to be in the CIA. Those character traits fit the functional CIA profile exactly. That is why the CIA fears him. "Takes one to know one."
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By your description, putin must be a cia agent.
 
Cisero said:
Ok...

Trump denying
17 things Donald Trump said and then denied saying

Trump blaming for misunderstanding

Trump : "If there was a misunderstanding on McCain remarks I'd take them back
6 times Donald Trump feld the media misunderstood him

Trump disparaging concerns as oversensitivity

Trump "Ban all muslims" - People are too PC

Trump says it was a joke
Trump insist China inveted Global Warming was a joke
"It was a joke! Trump dismisses the controversy [...]
Trump : "I was only joking"


But hey, feel free to deny these sources (dailymail, washingtonpost, politifact, time, usatoday, mediaite) & do aaaaall the mental gymnastics you want.
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I think theright response here would be ... Never mind.

Seriously, thank you for these. I could parse them, but I won't. No excuses for him either. He's made an uncomfortable bed for himself. For the sake of our country, I hope he adjusts the sheets.
 
MaggieD said:
I think theright response here would be ... Never mind.

Seriously, thank you for these. I could parse them, but I won't. No excuses for him either. He's made an uncomfortable bed for himself. For the sake of our country, I hope he adjusts the sheets.
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I really appreciate your honesty ! Seriously, more people should be like you.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Why do people think that a subset of humans, suddenly decided to believe bull****?
As if this is some new phenomenon.
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I think many of us wanted to believe that people are better than that... and this last election campaign, and Trump most notably... made it impossible to ignore that so many people really are that gullible.

Trump: Says 'x'.
Trump: I never said that.
Someone else: Yes, you did, it's on video.
Trump: I never said that.
Trump Sucker: He never said that.

Yet it's on video.

Oh, that makes the head hurt. :doh
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Why do people think that a subset of humans, suddenly decided to believe bull****?
As if this is some new phenomenon.
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No one said it was new.

But a shockingly (and depressingly) large group of Americans are seemingly unaware of his lies and denials. They've closed themselves off from alternative narratives.
 
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