• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Good Job President Obama

I sexually identify as a bow and arrow. You should respect by drawstring privilege my right to shoot freely.

Thanks 0bama!! :) :) :)

was this a google translation from another language? :mrgreen:
 
I haven't picked-up a bow since 12 years old, so I don't have much opinion on the measure itself.

But I got a lot of respect for bowhunters. It takes some real skill.
 
I haven't picked-up a bow since 12 years old, so I don't have much opinion on the measure itself.

But I got a lot of respect for bowhunters. It takes some real skill.

I used to bow hunt and coach people who do. the toughest part is getting within 40 yards or closer to deer though in some of the "urban" hunting areas like public parks,the deer are pretty dumb.
 
A bipartisan bill. Good. Wish there were more of them at the early part of his administration.

don't we all. Sadly, you and yours were running around foaming at the mouth that President Obama was born in Kenya ,wanted to kill old people and the stimulus would cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero, Republicans used your ignorance and fear to obstruct President Obama even if he was trying to lower the deficit faster or improve the economy. and they told you it was the plan. republicans proved they were unfit to govern and you cheered them on.

Until conservatives (and conservative like posters) admit they got played and stop getting played, nothing is going to change.
 
don't we all. Sadly, you and yours were running around foaming at the mouth that President Obama was born in Kenya ,wanted to kill old people and the stimulus would cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero, Republicans used your ignorance and fear to obstruct President Obama even if he was trying to lower the deficit faster or improve the economy. and they told you it was the plan. republicans proved they were unfit to govern and you cheered them on.

Until conservatives (and conservative like posters) admit they got played and stop getting played, nothing is going to change.

Sure, sure. As one sided and dishonest as ever from you Vern.2

Harry Reid’s reign of paralysis
By Jennifer Rubin August 4, 2014
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/08/04/harry-reids-reign-of-paralysis/

Senate Democrats have a number of arguments for keeping themselves in the majority: The war on women. (They believe there is one and are against it.) Impeachment. Republicans are racists. Republicans are obstructionist.

Aside from being entirely made up by Democratic consultants who think Americans are dolts, these “arguments” for the Democrats’ reelection share a common feature. They are all arguments against the Republicans. But what is the argument for the continued reign of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and a Democratic majority?

The Senate has not voted on jobs bills sent by the House, any “fix” for Obamacare or a domestic energy development bill. The Senate will not take up a real vote on the Keystone XL pipeline. It will not take up Iran sanctions. It did pass Veterans Affairs legislation and Iron Dome funding, not exactly difficult votes. Other than that, not much of consequence has gone on in the Senate, but not because of Republican objections. The GOP would love to take up many of these subjects, debate them and offer amendments; it is Reid who either won’t take up meaty issues or won’t allow any minority amendments, a practice he has taken further than any modern Senate leader. Speaking to the press on Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said succinctly: “Well, if you look at the last six years, the president and his people, I think, believed they got just about everything they wanted legislatively the first two years.”

In essence, the Senate has become an adjunct of the White House. Reid’s side comes up with no innovative (or even non-innovative) initiatives of its own and doesn’t allow any from the GOP. It changed the Senate rules to rubber-stamp Obama appointees and won’t allow votes on things that will make the White House uncomfortable. It is not that the Senate has been unproductive; that would be an improvement. Rather, it has been counterproductive time and again. It propagates nasty partisanship. “The Senate majority did not want the president to be challenged on anything, which of course leaves him free to pursue his agenda through the bureaucracy, all of whom work for him,” McConnell said. He pointed out, “And of course that serves the president’s purpose because it gives him a Congress to run against and it gives him the freedom of his bureaucrats to pursue his agenda, largely unimpeded by the kind of restrictions on the spending process that Congress would normally write in to appropriation bills if they ever passed them.”

Takes two to tango. If you can't be honest enough to admit that both parties contributed to the obstruction and dysfunction of that congress, then there's no point in a single post more.
 
I used to bow hunt and coach people who do. the toughest part is getting within 40 yards or closer to deer though in some of the "urban" hunting areas like public parks,the deer are pretty dumb.

You Sure those are deer you were shooting? Dumb, sounds more like the two legged creatures that sometimes go into the woods but most often infest public parks. Did the taxidermist look at you funny when you brought in the head, hopefully you did not eat any, I hear they are full of all kinds of toxins.
 
don't we all. Sadly, you and yours were running around foaming at the mouth that President Obama was born in Kenya ,wanted to kill old people and the stimulus would cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero, Republicans used your ignorance and fear to obstruct President Obama even if he was trying to lower the deficit faster or improve the economy. and they told you it was the plan. republicans proved they were unfit to govern and you cheered them on.

Until conservatives (and conservative like posters) admit they got played and stop getting played, nothing is going to change.

Thanks God for that.
 
Sure, sure. As one sided and dishonest as ever from you Vern.2

Takes two to tango. If you can't be honest enough to admit that both parties contributed to the obstruction and dysfunction of that congress, then there's no point in a single post more.

eorhn, you do realize that posting an editorial that doesn't upset your tummy doesn't make me a liar right? Of course you don't, its what makes you a conservative (or conservative like poster). And eorhn, as usual, you don't reply to my post. You quickly deflect to something that doesn't upset your tummy. Your conservative masters telling you "wah wah Reid is a meanie" doesn't address the fact republicans told you it was their plan to to obstruct. they didn't care if their obstruction hurt the recovery or kept the deficit higher. And neither did you. Again, because you and yours you and yours were running around foaming at the mouth that President Obama was born in Kenya ,wanted to kill old people and the stimulus would cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero republicans were free to undermine the recovery and again prove they're unfit to govern.

Now eohrn, whining I'm a liar and deflecting to things that don't upset your tummy are perfectly fine responses in a chat room but this is a debate forum.
 
eorhn, you do realize that posting an editorial that doesn't upset your tummy doesn't make me a liar right? Of course you don't, its what makes you a conservative (or conservative like poster). And eorhn, as usual, you don't reply to my post. You quickly deflect to something that doesn't upset your tummy. Your conservative masters telling you "wah wah Reid is a meanie" doesn't address the fact republicans told you it was their plan to to obstruct. they didn't care if their obstruction hurt the recovery or kept the deficit higher. And neither did you. Again, because you and yours you and yours were running around foaming at the mouth that President Obama was born in Kenya ,wanted to kill old people and the stimulus would cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero republicans were free to undermine the recovery and again prove they're unfit to govern.

Now eohrn, whining I'm a liar and deflecting to things that don't upset your tummy are perfectly fine responses in a chat room but this is a debate forum.

You can quit trolling me anytime you'd like. The sooner the better from my perspective.
 
You can quit trolling me anytime you'd like. The sooner the better from my perspective.

Oh eohrn, I simply responded to yet another delusional conservative narrative that you posted by posting reality. It upset you so much you had to rant about Harry Reid. You don't respond to my posts. You deflect, whine and call me a liar. That's pretty much text book trolling. I'll type this very slowly for you.

republicans told you it was their plan to obstruct President Obama.


Now see if you can respond in an honest and intelligent manner. Whining about me or anybody else doesn't address that.
 
A bipartisan bill. Good. Wish there were more of them at the early part of his administration.

Yours was the first post in this thread that went the partisan route.

It will be better for trump because DC Democrats in this minority aren't even close to being the unanimous Grand Obstruction Party as we saw 8 years ago .
 
Yours was the first post in this thread that went the partisan route.

It will be better for trump because DC Democrats in this minority aren't even close to being the unanimous Grand Obstruction Party as we saw 8 years ago .

I've been saying pretty much from the beginning of the ObamaCare mess that it would have a greater chance of success if it gained bipartisan votes and bipartisan support once it became law. The Democrats saw it fit to exclude Republican involvement, I hope the Republicans don't go the same route. It'll only meet with the same method of failure.
 
Oh eohrn, I simply responded to yet another delusional conservative narrative that you posted by posting reality. It upset you so much you had to rant about Harry Reid. You don't respond to my posts. You deflect, whine and call me a liar. That's pretty much text book trolling. I'll type this very slowly for you.

republicans told you it was their plan to obstruct President Obama.


Now see if you can respond in an honest and intelligent manner. Whining about me or anybody else doesn't address that.

Yeah, I get it Vern. Anything that you don't agree with is delusional (regardless of how fact based it is), and what you agree with is issued from the heavens.

It doesn't lead to any sort of interesting exchanges, suffering your continual abuse, so I'm not going to bother with you.

But I will leave you with this:

On Obama's entrance to the presidency, he did little but antagonize anyone in congress who opposed him with "I won and you lost", not bothering to meet with the opposing party leaders, belittling the opposition on national TV with them sitting in the front row, and then, when the majority in the house flipped, attempting to rule by executive fiat with 'I got my phone and I got my pen'. Conducive to bipartisan support? Hardly. Even so, I am still big enough, fair enough, and even handed enough to concede that it takes two to tango. I won't hold either as being the sole source of the congressional dysfunction during Obama's presidential term. Can you step up and do the same?

I hope that the Republicans don't make the same mistakes. I do hope that they diligently work to establish common ground, work across the isle, find the compromises that can work, and do attend to the people's business. In that they have a distinct advantage over the departing administration and congress. They have, what appears to be so far, a leader to follow. But the future is unwritten, and we'll have to wait and see how it unfolds.

With that, I take my leave of you.
 
Yeah, I get it Vern. Anything that you don't agree with is delusional (regardless of how fact based it is), and what you agree with is issued from the heavens.

It doesn't lead to any sort of interesting exchanges, suffering your continual abuse, so I'm not going to bother with you.

But I will leave you with this:

On Obama's entrance to the presidency, he did little but antagonize anyone in congress who opposed him with "I won and you lost", not bothering to meet with the opposing party leaders, belittling the opposition on national TV with them sitting in the front row, and then, when the majority in the house flipped, attempting to rule by executive fiat with 'I got my phone and I got my pen'. Conducive to bipartisan support? Hardly. Even so, I am still big enough, fair enough, and even handed enough to concede that it takes two to tango. I won't hold either as being the sole source of the congressional dysfunction during Obama's presidential term. Can you step up and do the same?

I hope that the Republicans don't make the same mistakes. I do hope that they diligently work to establish common ground, work across the isle, find the compromises that can work, and do attend to the people's business. In that they have a distinct advantage over the departing administration and congress. They have, what appears to be so far, a leader to follow. But the future is unwritten, and we'll have to wait and see how it unfolds.

With that, I take my leave of you.

oh eorhn, you can whine at me and about me but that doesn't address the fact that republicans told you it was their plan to obstruct President Obama. It why you have to cowardly dodge and whine incessantly about me. Until you can address the fact that republicans told you it was their plan to obstruct President Obama, you have nothing to say.

Its just so funny to see the guys who literally ran around foaming at the mouth that the president was born in kenya and wanted to kill old people whining about their delicate sensibilities. So eohrn, when you grow up and decide to post like an adult, be sure to address the fact that republicans told you it was their plan to obstruct President Obama.
 
Back
Top Bottom