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US Has Long History Of Influencing Elections

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Moderate Right said:
The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries - LA Times

We do it all the time and yet lefties hypocritically blame Russia for their precious Hillary's loss, not that there is any evidence anything Russia did actually turned any votes.
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You are naive if you really think the contents of the emails the Russians hacked and then gave to their buddies in Wikileaks didn't turn anybody's vote.

And the "Waah! We did it so why are people complaining when poor, poor Russia does it" line of argument is rather sad.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Wow, Trumpettes are now part of the blame America first crowd?
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Amazing? Isn't it?

For 8 years the same people who criticized Obama for not being tough enough with Putin and the Russians are now excusing Putin and what they did simply because of politics. Their boy Trump is happily bending over for Putin, so now those same people want us to go easier on the Russians then they accused Obama of being.

amazing!
 
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Moderate Right said:
The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries - LA Times

We do it all the time and yet lefties hypocritically blame Russia for their precious Hillary's loss, not that there is any evidence anything Russia did actually turned any votes.
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:lamo

You are naive if you really think the contents of the emails the Russians hacked and then gave to their buddies in Wikileaks didn't turn anybody's vote.

And the "Waah! We did it so why are people complaining when poor, poor Russia does it" line of argument is rather sad.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Amazing? Isn't it?

For 8 years the same people who criticized Obama for not being tough enough with Putin and the Russians are now excusing Putin and what they did simply because of politics. Their boy Trump is happily bending over for Putin, so now those same people want us to go easier on the Russians then they accused Obama of being.

amazing!
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Trump owes them millions so he is beholden.
 
Tigerace117 said:
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:lamo

You are naive if you really think the contents of the emails the Russians hacked and then gave to their buddies in Wikileaks didn't turn anybody's vote.

And the "Waah! We did it so why are people complaining when poor, poor Russia does it" line of argument is rather sad.
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I never said this stuff didn't turn ANYONE'S vote but there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Russia caused Hillary to lose. If there is some please present it.
 
Tigerace117 said:
And while we are on the subject of hypocrisy, want to explain why we should suddenly be easier on Russia than Obama ever was?
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Please show evidence that we are going to be easier. Putin got away with invading and taking over part of another country under Obama. How can it possibly get any easier than that?
 
This is hilarious. The left making all these claims without a shred of evidence. If the shoe was on the other foot, the left would be howling for evidence.

Furthermore, if the Russians did hack the DNC, how did any of the information force anyone to vote a certain way? Leftists claim Globalist Granny got the popular vote, so did any of the hacking actually influence the election?
 
DamnYankee said:
This is hilarious. The left making all these claims without a shred of evidence. If the shoe was on the other foot, the left would be howling for evidence.

Furthermore, if the Russians did hack the DNC, how did any of the information force anyone to vote a certain way? Leftists claim Globalist Granny got the popular vote, so did any of the hacking actually influence the election?
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Good point. The left claims:

1. Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million over Trump

2. Russia caused Hillary to lose the election
 
Moderate Right said:
Good point. The left claims:

1. Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million over Trump

2. Russia caused Hillary to lose the election
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One could argue, the alleged Russian hacking helped Globalist Granny.

I'm still waiting for evidence to show the Russians were involved, one. And two, how did that hacking help DJT when Globalist Granny got more votes. LMAO
 
DamnYankee said:
This is hilarious. The left making all these claims without a shred of evidence. If the shoe was on the other foot, the left would be howling for evidence.

Furthermore, if the Russians did hack the DNC, how did any of the information force anyone to vote a certain way? Leftists claim Globalist Granny got the popular vote, so did any of the hacking actually influence the election?
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it isnt just the left it is also republicans. you must be one of these guys to fake reality in your post like that. Russian internet trolls were being hired to pose as pro-Trump Americans - Business Insider
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
yes jet is and you are as well

both have flipped sides
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But it is the left who said, "When they go low, we go high". Now they have revised that to say, "When they go low, we go high, unless we lose, then we go low too.". That is the hypocrisy.
 
Additional thoughts: I don't recall leftists entertaining the possibility of the loss of the election being their own fault. Over the last months they have blamed their loss on someone else, never giving a second's thought it just might be their own. Losing 1200+ seats nationwide over the last few years has to hurt, but never once did they accept responsibility. This is the height of arrogance.
 
DamnYankee said:
Additional thoughts: I don't recall leftists entertaining the possibility of the loss of the election being their own fault. Over the last months they have blamed their loss on someone else, never giving a second's thought it just might be their own. Losing 1200+ seats nationwide over the last few years has to hurt, but never once did they accept responsibility. This is the height of arrogance.
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actually they did accept responsibility. your post is dishonest. your dishonest posts suggest you are one of these guys. Russian internet trolls were being hired to pose as pro-Trump Americans - Business Insider
 
katzgar said:
actually they did accept responsibility. your post is dishonest. your dishonest posts suggest you are one of these guys. Russian internet trolls were being hired to pose as pro-Trump Americans - Business Insider
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So you are saying that fake diehard Trumpists here on DP influenced someone who had been planning on voting for Hillary into voting for Trump instead and in enough numbers to turn blue states red? I don't think so. I doubt that they swayed even one vote.
 
Moderate Right said:
So you are saying that fake diehard Trumpists here on DP influenced someone who had been planning on voting for Hillary into voting for Trump instead and in enough numbers to turn blue states red? I don't think so. I doubt that they swayed even one vote.
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reread my post and quit making foolishness up
 
Moderate Right said:
I never said this stuff didn't turn ANYONE'S vote but there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Russia caused Hillary to lose. If there is some please present it.
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The emails the Russians stole directly affected the election; people's minds were changed by the information contained in the leaks(of course, it is extremely likely only the most provactive emails were released by the Russians and their collaborators at Wikileaks). This was seen in the polling trends leading towards the end of the election.
 
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