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Muslim students demand prayer rooms in every 'major building'

eohrnberger said:
Even so, doesn't this violate the separation of Church and State?
I mean if Christian school prayer isn't allowed, why should Muslim prayer rooms be allowed?
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Where are you getting this idea that "Christian school prayer isn't allowed"?
 
DamnYankee said:
ROTFLMAO You're the one that brought up wasting money. Talk about fabricated outrage.

I know, let's have the snowflakes give up a Play-Doh Therapy room or two, call it good. Whaddya say? :) lol
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YOU brought it up. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

This is what you said

DamnYankee said:
Why blow money on things that aren't necessary?
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To my quote which was

Ikari said:
You just don't understand the point of fabricated outrage, Redress. Geeez.
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Where in my quote does it talk about wasting money? It doesn't. Jesus, at least let 5 pages of thread go by before contradicting yourself.

LOL LOL LOL
 
Ban all religion from campus. Problem solved.:lamo
 
Ikari said:
YOU brought it up. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

This is what you said



To my quote which was



Where in my quote does it talk about wasting money? It doesn't. Jesus, at least let 5 pages of thread go by before contradicting yourself.

LOL LOL LOL
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I asked why blow money on something not necessary. You brought up cost. Not I. Nice try though.

My idea solves the problem however. :)
 
eohrnberger said:
Even so, doesn't this violate the separation of Church and State?
I mean if Christian school prayer isn't allowed
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, why should Muslim prayer rooms be allowed?
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When have any Christians ever been stopped from praying (By themselves without trying to shove it down everyone's throat) anywhere in the USA?

Fill us in with all of the details.

:lol:

I won't hold my breath while I wait for an answer that's probably not coming.
 
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DamnYankee said:
I asked why blow money on something not necessary. You brought up cost. Not I. Nice try though.

My idea solves the problem however. :)
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I asked you how much it cost, since you were concerned about it.

Jesus, you need to exercise a little bit of intellectual honesty in your arguments.

YOU brought it up, I asked you how much it would cost since YOU'RE concerned with it. You made up a number, I said come back with facts.

Nice try though...except it was a terrible try. Don't contradict yourself so quickly.
 
Ikari said:
I asked you how much it cost, since you were concerned about it.

Jesus, you need to exercise a little bit of intellectual honesty in your arguments.

YOU brought it up, I asked you how much it would cost since YOU'RE concerned with it. You made up a number, I said come back with facts.

Nice try though...except it was a terrible try. Don't contradict yourself so quickly.
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:lamo

Holly smokes. Typical leftist. Give them a solution to a problem and they whine and point fingers.
 
Kobie said:
Where are you getting this idea that "Christian school prayer isn't allowed"?
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shrubnose said:
When have any Christians ever been stopped from praying (By themselves without trying to shove it down everyone's throat) anywhere in the USA?

Fill us in with all of the details.

:lol:
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[h=3]The "Separation" principle and the Supreme Court[/h] Jefferson's concept of "separation of church and state" first became a part of Establishment Clause jurisprudence in Reynolds v. U.S., 98 U.S. 145 (1878).[SUP][41][/SUP] In that case, the court examined the history of religious liberty in the US, determining that while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, "The word 'religion' is not defined in the Constitution. We must go elsewhere, therefore, to ascertain its meaning, and nowhere more appropriately, we think, than to the history of the times in the midst of which the provision was adopted." The court found that the leaders in advocating and formulating the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty were James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. Quoting the "separation" paragraph from Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists, the court concluded that, "coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separ...Separation.22_principle_and_the_Supreme_Court
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The topic here isn't whether students be allowed to pray on school grounds. They are.

The issue is the state supporting any religion, which the expense of constructing and maintaining a dedicated room would be, would it not?
 
Yeah, and the fundie christians demand prayer in public school.

No to both of them, you can pray to yourself whenever you need to.

Or, instead of praying, you can just lead a rational
 
eohrnberger said:
The topic here isn't whether students be allowed to pray on school grounds. They are.

The issue is the state supporting any religion, which the expense of constructing and maintaining a dedicated room would be, would it not?
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This thread belongs in the trash can.It's a total waste of time and solves nothing.
 
DamnYankee said:
:lamo

Holly smokes. Typical leftist. Give them a solution to a problem and they whine and point fingers.
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You didn't give a solution. You said why blow money on something, I asked you how much money was being blown, you made up a number and have no data to back it up. Then you tried to deflect and say that I brought up costs, when you were the first to do so. Now you're trying to claim that your snarky response about play-doh is supposed to be taken seriously as a "solution".

It's just deflection deflection deflection.

All I'm doing is pointing out your lies and dishonesty in your argument. Sorry bro. Don't contradict yourself so quickly, maybe you won't get called out on it,

Now let's see your next goal post move/deflection.
 
eohrnberger said:
Even so, doesn't this violate the separation of Church and State?
I mean if Christian school prayer isn't allowed, why should Muslim prayer rooms be allowed?
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They are not asking for a Muslim room of prayer, but for a quiet room for students of any religion to take a prayer break.
 
Redress said:
They are not asking for a Muslim room of prayer, but for a quiet room for students of any religion to take a prayer break.
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Even so, asking the school (state) to incur expenses to build and maintain a room for the express purpose of religious activity, that doesn't go against the separation clause?

I'm thinking that it would.
 
eohrnberger said:
Even so, asking the school (state) to incur expenses to build and maintain a room for the express purpose of religious activity, that doesn't go against the separation clause?

I'm thinking that it would.
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They are not asking for a room to be built, only that one be used for that purpose. And as long as any one of any religion can use it, it should pass constitutional muster.
 
Redress said:
They are not asking for a room to be built, only that one be used for that purpose. And as long as any one of any religion can use it, it should pass constitutional muster.
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I see and understand your position. And it may very well be determined that that's the case.

However, even if a room doesn't need to be constructed, the dedication of that room to that purpose as an expense associated with it, and that becomes supporting it.
 
Ikari said:
You didn't give a solution. You said why blow money on something, I asked you how much money was being blown, you made up a number and have no data to back it up. Then you tried to deflect and say that I brought up costs, when you were the first to do so. Now you're trying to claim that your snarky response about play-doh is supposed to be taken seriously as a "solution".

It's just deflection deflection deflection.

All I'm doing is pointing out your lies and dishonesty in your argument. Sorry bro. Don't contradict yourself so quickly, maybe you won't get called out on it,

Now let's see your next goal post move/deflection.
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Have a Merry Christmas. You need all the positive you can handle.
 
volsrock said:
Muslim students, for instance, want “one room in each major building designated for prayer” and “shuttle services to [the local mosque] for Muslim students to have access to a place of worship.”

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8559

No. You can attend those other fine universities in Iran, Iraq, or Afghanistan


And the people who banned Christian prayer in schools and in the public square say, “You better let ‘em!”
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No, bye.
 
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