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Trump BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York

volsrock said:
Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York


Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million | Daily Mail Online


Thank God for the EC or just 2 blue states would be deciding our president
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If you get rid of Florida, Texas and Louisiana, Hillary won the election. OMG! 3 states decided our president!

You don't get to discount parts of the country because you don't like them. And if you think liberals sound stupid when they say "But Hillary won the popular vote!" then you should understand how you sound when you say "If I get rid of the states I disagree with, Trump would have won the popular vote!"
 
Trump won because he took 3 states f r om Clinton and it wasn't Florida, Texas and Louisiana
 
volsrock said:
Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York
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Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million | Daily Mail Online


Thank God for the EC or just 2 blue states would be deciding our president
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The fact of the matter is that nationwide 2.8 million more people wanted Clinton than wanted Trump.

Anyone in the GOP who thinks that Trump has a mandate is out of touch with reality.
 
Clinton lost because of the green candidate. With her votes, she would have won! This is a fun game!
 
volsrock said:
Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York

Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million | Daily Mail Online

Thank God for the EC or just 2 blue states would be deciding our president
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This is beyond idiotic in terms of trying to measure. Hate to tell you, but California and New York are still part of the United States.

If you take Texas and Tennessee, Hillary's popular vote win goes up by 1.5 million. That is equally useless as any kind of real measure.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Clinton lost because of the green candidate. With her votes, she would have won! This is a fun game!
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Wrong i bet most of those voters are in Cal and New York anyway
 
volsrock said:
Thank God for the EC or just 2 blue states would be deciding our president
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Because everyone knows rural states that virtually nobody lives in are morally superior. Or something.
 
shrubnose said:
The fact of the matter is that nationwide 2.8 million more people wanted Clinton than wanted Trump.

Anyone in the GOP who thinks that Trump has a mandate is out of touch with reality.
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Exit polls showed that more than 50% of the voters felt either concerned or s for the country if Hillary OR Trump won the election. On election night I was commenting that anyone trying to indicate that EITHER of these candidates winning indicated a "mandate" or some kind of evidence that the country has widely embraced their message and politics would be fooling themselves. More than ever before, this was the epitome of an election where people were just as likely voting against someone as voting for someone. Which is equally why people are "out of touch with reality" if they believe that those that voted for Trump automatically agree with everything surrounding Trump.
 
Mr Person said:
Because everyone knows rural states that virtually nobody lives in are morally superior. Or something.
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I would take your avg farmer in a rural state over and yuppie in the city...
 
volsrock said:
Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York


Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million | Daily Mail Online


Thank God for the EC or just 2 blue states would be deciding our president
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Even saying she won in California and New York is overstating the matter. She won LA County by 1.7M and the 5 boroughs of NYC by 1.5M. Basically, there were a handful of heavily populated metropolitan areas where Clinton outperformed Trump by absurd margins and she lost everywhere else.
 
volsrock said:
Trump won because he took 3 states f r om Clinton and it wasn't Florida, Texas and Louisiana
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You're wrong about Florida, since it was part of the Obama coalition, and trump won it by 100,000.

Good thing Rubio ran for reelection and won by 700,000, providing tremendous coattails for trump.

Would you care to know the numbers in the other five flipped states ?
 
shrubnose said:
The fact of the matter is that nationwide 2.8 million more people wanted Clinton than wanted Trump.

Anyone in the GOP who thinks that Trump has a mandate is out of touch with reality.
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According to the definition of mandate, Trump has a mandate.

man·date
ˈmanˌdāt/
noun
noun: mandate; plural noun: mandates

1. an official order or commission to do something.
"a mandate to seek the release of political prisoners"
synonyms: instruction, directive, decree, command, order, injunction, edict, charge, commission, bidding, ruling, fiat; formalordinance
"a mandate from the UN"
Law
a commission by which a party is entrusted to perform a service, especially without payment and with indemnity against loss by that party.
Law
an order from an appellate court to a lower court to take a specific action.
a written authority enabling someone to carry out transactions on another's bank account.
historical
a commission from the League of Nations to a member state to administer a territory.
"the end of the British mandate in Palestine"

2. the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election.
"a sick leader living beyond his mandate"
synonyms: authority, approval, acceptance, ratification, endorsement, sanction, authorization
"they won a mandate to form the government"
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Lutherf said:
Even saying she won in California and New York is overstating the matter. She won LA County by 1.7M and the 5 boroughs of NYC by 1.5M.
Basically, there were a handful of heavily populated metropolitan areas where Clinton outperformed Trump by absurd margins and she lost everywhere else.
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Which is ironclad proof that most of the stupid people live way out in the country,eh?
 
Jack Fabulous said:
According to the definition of mandate, Trump has a mandate.
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By that measure, so has every POTUS. I think the context is a little different here.

It's hard to justify a Trump mandate being the will of the people when he lost the popular vote.
 
Trump won because he got the requisite number of electoral college votes. He did that by winning 30 states to 20 and the appropriate vote tally. This whole 'popular vote' rhetoric is the absolute silliest thing.
 
volsrock said:
Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York
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You DO know that CA and NY are about 20% of the US population, yes?


Thank God for the EC or just 2 blue states would be deciding our president
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Good grief.

California is not just San Francisco and LA. There are millions of people living in suburbs and farms. Ronald Reagan was its governor, fer cryin' out loud. Over 4 million Californians voted for Trump.

The Electoral College is an outdated mechanism that violates the concept of "one citizen, one vote." It is long past time for it to go.
 
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