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This map shows Trump won a majority vote in 3,084 of the 3,141 counties!!!!

haymarket said:
To create the false visual impression that 90% of Americans voted for Trump.
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I think you are imagining things. The OP said nothing about what percentage of Americans voted for Trump, so there was no false impression created...except, possibly, in your own mind.
 
tnacguy said:
Another great reason why our founders chose the Electoral College !!!

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I see. Trump won a bunch of counties where almost no one lives. I guess that and the electoral college explain how he could win the election despite losing the popular vote by something like 2.7 million.
 
jimbo said:
TheGoverness said:
So in conclusion, this map is inaccurate.
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You've done your homework. Thanks. If Snopes is correct, then the map is wrong.

It would be interesting to know how many counties actually voted for who. Snopes didn't put a figure to that.
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TheGoverness, no, not the map.

They intimate that the numbers being used in the claim are incorrect, not that the map is an inaccurate reflection of the actual number of Counties.

The information they link to actual shows the representation of the map originally used to be accurate.

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Snopes used the following map which clearly has much finer detail.

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Anyone can see that there are more than 57 Counties for Clinton.


What is odd is that Snopes didn't bother to provide the actual numbers in their effort. I wonder if that is because because Hillary lost.



Donald Trump Won 2,600 Counties Compared To Clinton’s 500, Winning 83% Of The Geographic Nation
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Donald Trump Won 2,600 Counties Compared To Clinton’s 500, Winning 83% Of The Geographic Nation​
 
Porkuloss said:
I see. Trump won a bunch of counties where almost no one lives. I guess that and the electoral college explain how he could win the election despite losing the popular vote by something like 2.7 million.
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iLOL
The nationwide popular vote has nothing to do with the election.




haymarket said:
So Clinton did not get any votes in those read areas and Trump did not get any votes in those blue areas?
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That is irrelevant to who won the counties depicted.




shrubnose said:
And nationwide Clinton beat him in the popular vote,65,844,610 to 62,679,636.
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Irrelevant.

Just as the depiction of the number of counties is irrelevant.
Neither representation is meaningful in how we elected the President.
 
tnacguy said:
Another great reason why our founders chose the Electoral College !!!

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Our founders were very much for a limited federal government where each region was empowered with the ability to chose what was best for themselves without having people living in another region being able to dictate what was best for everyone. This is why they chose not to go with a direct democracy.

Now the problem is The People have allowed the federal government to expand WAY beyond their intentions to the point that the federal government now holds a majority share removing a persons ability to chose for themselves what is best for them without it affecting everyone else. As a result the "majority" now want to change the system because they feel it is unfair. I have a better solution. How about we put governing powers back to the way they were intended so that everyone has a much better chance of having a government that better suits them instead of this winner takes all and the other (potential) 49.9% is stuck with a government they are unhappy with.

I know it will never happen but I can hope. People are of a mind to force everyone else into their view of how things should be and that is the reason we have allowed the federal government to grow well beyond its intended scope.
 
Excon said:
TheGoverness, no, not the map.

They intimate that the numbers being used in the claim are incorrect, not that the map is an inaccurate reflection of the actual number of Counties.

The information they link to actual shows the representation of the map originally used to be accurate.

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Snopes used the following map which clearly has much finer detail.

3141-counties-trump-won.jpg

Anyone can see that there are more than 57 Counties for Clinton.


What is odd is that Snopes didn't bother to provide the actual numbers in their effort. I wonder if that is because because Hillary lost.



Donald Trump Won 2,600 Counties Compared To Clinton’s 500, Winning 83% Of The Geographic Nation
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Donald Trump Won 2,600 Counties Compared To Clinton’s 500, Winning 83% Of The Geographic Nation​
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The AP (?) report the Governess linked to differs from Snopes. I noticed Snopes did not come up with a figure, but posted a number of meaningless maps.

Both reports indicate a huge difference.
 
jimbo said:
The AP (?) report the Governess linked to differs from Snopes. I noticed Snopes did not come up with a figure, but posted a number of meaningless maps.

Both reports indicate a huge difference.
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Exactly.
As tedious as it would be, one could count the Counties in the map they used.

I am sure it would be a close enough reflection of the numbers used in the AP story or in the report I linked.
The AP report provided by TG.
Trump - 2,626 Counties
Clinton - 487 Counties.​

The Inquisitr report provided by moi.
Trump - 2,600 Counties
Clinton - 500 Counties​
 
roughdraft274 said:
Let me sum this up.

Conservative: "Trump won way more districts than Clinton! Woo-hoo!
Liberal: "You realize we don't vote for president by District right?"
Conservative: "Just pointing out how most of america supports Trump! This is Trump Country!"
Liberal: "You realize most people voted for Hillary? She has almost 3 million more votes overall?"
Conservative: "We don't go by the popular vote, so that doesn't matter! We go by the EC! Liberals are so dumb!"
Liberal: "So why did you bring up districts? They don't decide the president."
Conservative: "Because Trump won most of them! Woo-hoo!"

And... scene.
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You forgot the part where the Independent was telling the liberal that neither the reflection by county or the Popular vote matter.
 
haymarket said:
To create the false visual impression that 90% of Americans voted for Trump.
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Rather, it corrects the false impression that Clinton's higher popular vote was reflected throughout the nation.

This map clearly illustrates that the higher popular vote count was limited to 57 counties out of 3,141. Trump won everywhere except in 57 counties. It also clearly illustrates that outside of the Democratic "city-states" -- regardless of how deep they stack the population, Clinton did not have popular support.

It gives an accurate visual impression that Trump was found to be the most popular in 98.2% of counties and Clinton was found to be the most popular candidate in only 1.8% of the country.
 
Excon said:
iLOL
The nationwide popular vote has nothing to do with the election.




That is irrelevant to who won the counties depicted.




Irrelevant.

Just as the depiction of the number of counties is irrelevant.
Neither representation is meaningful in how we elected the President.
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I agree. What I was pointing out was that the OP's apparent conclusion from that (inaccurate) map was that America is "Trump nation", is silly when you consider that he lost the popular vote by a margin greater than the entire population of 4 or 5 geographically large states that he won.
 
Porkuloss said:
I agree. What I was pointing out was that the OP's apparent conclusion from that (inaccurate) map was that America is "Trump nation", is silly when you consider that he lost the popular vote by a margin greater than the entire population of 4 or 5 geographically large states that he won.
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No.
1. The map in the OP is a resized version that lost detail. It is still a reflection of the Counties won.
What was inaccurate is the numbers used in the claim.

2. Your comment about a "Trump nation" is what is silly.
The people are grouped in such a way (by state) that this election makes it a "Trump nation". The actual number of votes on a national scale matter not to that.
 
Excon said:
2. Your comment about a "Trump nation" is what is silly.
The people are grouped in such a way (by state) that this election makes it a "Trump nation". The actual number of votes on a national scale matter not to that.
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Well, if that's true, then it's been "Obama Country" since Jan 2009, and it will remain "Obama Country" until Jan 2017. I think that's laughable.
 
Porkuloss said:
Well, if that's true, then it's been "Obama Country" since Jan 2009, and it will remain "Obama Country" until Jan 2017. I think that's laughable.
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Did you see anyone here disagreeing with that assessment? I hadn't.

But since you bring it up ...
Our process by electoral vote would allow that expression to be not true.
 
There lives no one in most of the red areas :)

It is like saying that the Social Democrats in Denmark win massively because Greenland votes Social Democrat... for those that dont know.. Greenland has 56k population out of the 5.6 million total population, but the land mass of Greenland is almost 4 times that of Alaska... and 50 times the size of Denmark proper..
 
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Mason66 said:
Every leftie here crying about the popular vote proves it.
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No it doesn't. Show me some research or a poll where lefties claim only California votes should count.
 
None of this matters.

Trump will now officially be the new President.

Why cry over this still?
 
PeteEU said:
There lives no one in most of the red areas :)

It is like saying that the Social Democrats in Denmark win massively because Greenland votes Social Democrat... for those that dont know.. Greenland has 56k population out of the 5.6 million total population, but the land mass of Greenland is almost 4 times that of Alaska... and 50 times the size of Denmark proper..
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A refection of the Counties won is just that, a reflection of the Counties won.


Most of the red area in the following map doesn't contain as many people as the blue areas.
That fact is as irrelevant as yours is because the Presidential election is based on a reflection of the State's vote, not by a national popular vote.


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Excon said:
You forgot the part where the Independent was telling the liberal that neither the reflection by county or the Popular vote matter.
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The independent that repeatedly claimed that a chart that claimed a complete and utter falsehood was actually true just so he could argue with that darn liberal?

Ok, whatever you want to call yourself champ.
 
roughdraft274 said:
The independent that repeatedly claimed that a chart that claimed a complete and utter falsehood was actually true just so he could argue with that darn liberal?
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Your characterization being wrong leaves you with no valid point.

Which does not change the fact that "you forgot the part where the Independent was telling the liberal that neither the reflection by county or the Popular vote matter."
 
dorsai said:
Rather, it corrects the false impression that Clinton's higher popular vote was reflected throughout the nation.
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It did come throughout the nation. Her votes cam from every state and every county in every state. And altogether they were almost three million more than Trump got. But when one looks at the dishonest map it appears that 90% of Americans voted for Trump.
 
haymarket said:
It did come throughout the nation. Her votes cam from every state and every county in every state. And altogether they were almost three million more than Trump got. But when one looks at the dishonest map it appears that 90% of Americans voted for Trump.
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Fortunately, the result of the popular vote doesn't matter in Presidential elections.
 
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