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This map shows Trump won a majority vote in 3,084 of the 3,141 counties!!!!

Henrin said:
Sigh. Do you believe there is some kind of hidden agenda here or something? The purpose of presenting that information is to show that Trump won the vast majority of counties. Duh?
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Nothing hidden at all.
 
shrubnose said:
Which is: No matter how thin you spread BS it's still BS,eh?

:lol:
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Shrub, you're trying to take a road map and declare it invalid because it doesn't show topography lines. The map is simply a map showing the counties voting for the new President. You can claim it's BS or not. It's true. That doesn't change just because you don't like it.
 
jimbo said:
Hay, old buddy, the map shows that Trump won This map shows Trump won a majority vote in 3,084 of the 3,141 counties!
That's the title of this thread and is a fact. Why is that so difficult to grasp?
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It's not a fact. That would mean Clinton only won 57 counties. That information is from a Breitbart article that only counted Clintons wins from 10 states.

Donald Trump Won 7.5 Million Popular Vote Landslide in Heartland - Breitbart

Imagine that. The Putin News Network I mean Breitbart posted a disingenuous article. Shocker.
 
TheGoverness said:
Are you tellin' me that Breitbart isn't a credible news source?

Well color me shocked.
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Once in a while they post accurate info, but only when it agrees with Putin's I mean their agenda.
 
azgreg said:
It's not a fact. That would mean Clinton only won 57 counties. That information is from a Breitbart article that only counted Clintons wins from 10 states.

Donald Trump Won 7.5 Million Popular Vote Landslide in Heartland - Breitbart

Imagine that. The Putin News Network I mean Breitbart posted a disingenuous article. Shocker.
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So dispute the fact, not the messenger.

Got anything to show the map is wrong? So far there are 3 posts. Not one disputes the map. Many claim it's BS. None show why or where.
 
jimbo said:
Shrub,
you're trying to take a road map and declare it invalid because it doesn't show topography lines.
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 The map is simply a map showing the counties voting for the new President. You can claim it's BS or not. It's true. That doesn't change just because you don't like it.
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Wrong.

It's not the map that I don't like,it's the stupid Alt-Right idea behind the map.

You can't change the fact that Clinton got considerably more popular votes nation-wide than Trump got no matter how many maps you draw.
 
jimbo said:
So dispute the fact, not the messenger.

Got anything to show the map is wrong? So far there are 3 posts. Not one disputes the map. Many claim it's BS. None show why or where.
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The source is sufficient. fake news, fake map.
 
This type of presentation is only intended to make Trump-voters feel like they represent the true will of the nation, which they do not.
No one who is not trying to justify their feelings about the vote cares who won the "Battle of the Counties".
It's completely meaningless.
 
shrubnose said:
Wrong.

It's not the map that I don't like,it's the stupid idea behind the map.

You can't change the fact that Clinton got considerably more popular votes nation-wide than Trump got no matter how many maps you draw.
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So, you have no evidence the map is incorrect. You just dislike the fact that it is correct.

I'll acknowledge the fact that Hillary got more popular votes. It doesn't matter. Isn't that the same thing as the map?

Trump won. Fair and square. The California vote didn't change that.
 
shrubnose said:
And nationwide Clinton beat him in the popular vote,65,844,610 to 62,679,636.

Come back in 44 years and tell us all about it,after demographic change reduces the GOP to a minor,regional,party.

Start learning about it here: Politics and race: looking ahead to 2060 | Pew Research Center

"No one can stop time and/or change."
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Ever notice how that year keeps getting pushed back? It was originally 2030 and then it became 2050 and now 2060. By the time 2060 comes around it will be 2230.
 
RickJames3000 said:
This type of presentation is only intended to make Trump-voters feel like they represent the true will of the nation, which they do not.
No one who is not trying to justify their feelings about the vote cares who won the "Battle of the Counties".
It's completely meaningless.
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Also completely meaningless is the popular vote. It's a presentation intended to make Hillary-voters feel like they represent the true will of the nation. No one who is not trying to justify their feelings cares who won the battle of the popular vote.

Post your own map of the
 
Manc Skipper said:
The source is sufficient. fake news, fake map.
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Are you disputing the credibility of the map? Or the county tally? Bring some evidence.

I don't like it is not evidence.
 
jimbo said:
Also completely meaningless is the popular vote. It's a presentation intended to make Hillary-voters feel like they represent the true will of the nation. No one who is not trying to justify their feelings cares who won the battle of the popular vote.

Post your own map of the
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Sure, dude.

The popular vote represents the best of democracy.
What value does the "Battle of the Counties" represent?
 
RickJames3000 said:
Sure, dude.

The popular vote represents the best of democracy.
What value does the "Battle of the Counties" represent?
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Unfortunately for you, this country was intentionally not founded as a democracy.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Unfortunately for you, this country was intentionally not founded as a democracy.
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In the present case, it happens to be unfortunate for the nation.
You'll be learning this lesson soon.
 
RickJames3000 said:
In the present case, it happens to be unfortunate for the nation.
You'll be learning this lesson soon.
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And what lesson would that be? That the majority be allowed to tyrannize the minority?
 
shrubnose said:
You can't change the fact that Clinton got considerably more popular votes nation-wide than Trump got no matter how many maps you draw.
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Neither can you change the fact that given our republican form of government the number of popular votes a candidate gets doesn't amount to a hill of beans if that candidate fails to win sufficient electoral college support.

Even if Clinton had won an additional 2 million votes in each of California and New York that 6 million vote margin of victory would still render her the loser of the election.

You all knew this going in to the election.

You were all beside yourselves with glee as you continuously pointed out how "Trump had no reasonable path to 270".

There was no pre-election discussion of how Clinton was going to win the popular vote because y'all knew as well as we did that winning the popular vote didn't matter.

You knew exactly what Clinton had to do to win this thing

It isn't like something new was sprung on you at the last minute.

Trump won the election the same way candidates have been winning the presidential election since the mid 1800s.

To claim now that the popular vote is relevant in any possible way is just cry baby belly aching.

The popular vote doesn't matter, it never has, it didn't matter on November 6th, it didn't matter on November 7th, it didn't matter at any point going back to the ratification of the Constitution, and it doesn't matter today.

So Clinton won the "popular vote".

Yahhh!!!

Good for her.

That and $4.50 will buy her a fair trade caramel cappuccino at Starbucks.

I hope she enjoys it, because she certainly earned it losing the election that so many millions of Americans were cheerfully proclaiming just a few short weeks ago was "hers to lose".
 
Let me sum this up.

Conservative: "Trump won way more districts than Clinton! Woo-hoo!
Liberal: "You realize we don't vote for president by District right?"
Conservative: "Just pointing out how most of america supports Trump! This is Trump Country!"
Liberal: "You realize most people voted for Hillary? She has almost 3 million more votes overall?"
Conservative: "We don't go by the popular vote, so that doesn't matter! We go by the EC! Liberals are so dumb!"
Liberal: "So why did you bring up districts? They don't decide the president."
Conservative: "Because Trump won most of them! Woo-hoo!"

And... scene.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
And what lesson would that be? That the majority be allowed to tyrannize the minority?
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I'm immediately leery of anyone who uses the phrase "tyranny of the majority" because implicit within this meaningless slogan is the idea that we should instead submit to the will of a minority. That's perfect conditioning for life on the road to dictatorship, plutocracy and/or oligarchy.

No thanks.

There is no logically defensible argument you can give me to get me to accept the "tyranny of a minority".
 
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