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Trump Presidency claims...

faithful_servant said:
Post all your claims of what you think that the Trump Presidency will accomplish. Then (if we remember to) in 2-3 years, we can all look back and see which ones have happened and which ones haven't. Let's put together a repository of everything we ALL think is going to happen. Without comment here, please, since we already have 1,294 threads already committed to arguing over this subject. Lets just make our lists so that we can come back and see just how foolish we all look in our prognostications.
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  • The wall will be a fence, and yeah we will pay for it.
  • Massive deportation? Forget about it.
  • The press is not going to get sued at every turn so CNN and MSNBC can relax.
  • Congress will laugh at any Bill asking to place a tariff on goods trying to be sold back in to this country, and the jobs Trump wants to bring back will be laughed at by the same companies opening their wallets up to Congress asking for more tax cuts.
  • NAFTA and TPP will stay the same.
  • ACA will not be repealed but will have changes or amendments.
  • There's a possibility a new deal could come in to focus with Iran but we will see.
  • ISIS will still be alive and well--unfortunately. Unless the Donald wants to invade and gets cooperation from Bashar al-Assad. (Yeah, OK.)
  • The top 1% will get a huge tax break while the working man gets practically nothing, while the federal deficit goes about 10 trillion or more.
  • Trump will not sue those women that have accused him of improper sexual advances

And here is a big one, but I have have to predict it. The Donald is going to get impeachment hearings during his first term over some kind of ethics he didn't take care of before he took office. If not that than some kind of dealings that take place during his tenure.
 
He will either prove to be one of the Best Presidents ever or possibly the Worst President in history.
 
Moot said:
Open to the public doesn't mean open to some and not others. Public means everyone in the community or state...including businesses.
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so now you are withdrawing your previous argument as flawed?
that isn't what you argued you either don't know what you argued or are changing your argument to something else.

which is it?

This is what you argued

Why do you hate the first amendment? Aren't roadways are considered public property and the states represent the people? Aren't gays people, too. If a business is open to the public then it should be illegal to discriminate against the public that paid for the roads and security that allows the business to operate. It's silly to keep pointing out the splinter in the left's eye while ignoring the log in the right's eye.
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That is your argument. Those businesses are the public as well. They pay MORE in taxes for those roads etc than normal people do.
They have businesses taxes, impact fees and other things that they pay in addition to their normal business taxes for those things.
 
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Trump will enrich himself and his family beyond the dreams of avarice.
 
ludin said:
so now you are withdrawing your previous argument as flawed?
that isn't what you argued you either don't know what you argued or are changing your argument to something else.

which is it?

This is what you argued
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I don't know what you're talking about...my argument is still the same.

That is your argument. Those businesses are the public as well. They pay MORE in taxes for those roads etc than normal people do.
They have businesses taxes, impact fees and other things that they pay in addition to their normal business taxes for those things.
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My argument is that the public has a right to protest on public property (IE: roadways). You're the one conflating a private business with public property.
 
faithful_servant said:
Post all your claims of what you think that the Trump Presidency will accomplish. Then (if we remember to) in 2-3 years, we can all look back and see which ones have happened and which ones haven't. Let's put together a repository of everything we ALL think is going to happen. Without comment here, please, since we already have 1,294 threads already committed to arguing over this subject. Lets just make our lists so that we can come back and see just how foolish we all look in our prognostications.
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Prosecute Hillary Clinton
Ban Muslim immigration
The Wall (and Mexico paying for it)
Repeal Obamacare.

I confidently predict these things will happen because The Donald said he'd do them.
 
faithful_servant said:
Post all your claims of what you think that the Trump Presidency will accomplish. Then (if we remember to) in 2-3 years, we can all look back and see which ones have happened and which ones haven't. Let's put together a repository of everything we ALL think is going to happen. Without comment here, please, since we already have 1,294 threads already committed to arguing over this subject. Lets just make our lists so that we can come back and see just how foolish we all look in our prognostications.
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Crime rates, particularly hate crimes, will rise.

Middle-class taxpayers will see their federal taxes rise to record highs, as they wait for trickle down from massive tax cuts for the rich.

Global tensions will be at an all-time high as the world waits for the Tweeter-In-Chief to declare war in 140 characters.

International markets will be in a constant state of flux, as Trump announces he is for (border wall, mass deportations, nuclear weapons for all) one day, only to announce he's against all those things the next day.

Putin will rub his hands together like a fly on a sugar cube, then march Russian troops into western Ukraine, Estonia and Lavia, wondering if he has time to take over the Baltic's before Trump is kicked out of office.


That will do for now.
 
Moot said:
I don't know what you're talking about...my argument is still the same.



My argument is that the public has a right to protest on public property (IE: roadways). You're the one conflating a private business with public property.
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You don't even know your own argument.

A private business pays just as much if not more in taxes.
For those public utilities.

That was not your argument. No you don't have the right to block a road way. Your right ends were others begin. I have a right to drive down a road and it not be blocked by you.

I posted your argument in my response.
 
ludin said:
You don't even know your own argument.

A private business pays just as much if not more in taxes.
For those public utilities.

That was not your argument. No you don't have the right to block a road way. Your right ends were others begin. I have a right to drive down a road and it not be blocked by you.

I posted your argument in my response.
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My argument was that people have a right to protest on public property. Sidewalks, public squares and parks don't usually require a permit....but marching down streets might require one.
 
Moot said:
My argument was that people have a right to protest on public property. Sidewalks, public squares and parks don't usually require a permit....but marching down streets might require one.
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you never argued that at all? more so in response to someone else. I will post your argument again let see if you can actually be honest about it.

YOU SAID AND I QUOTE:
Why do you hate the first amendment? Aren't roadways are considered public property and the states represent the people? Aren't gays people, too. If a business is open to the public then it should be illegal to discriminate against the public that paid for the roads and security that allows the business to operate.

It's silly to keep pointing out the splinter in the left's eye while ignoring the log in the right's eye.
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So lets go through this.

Where did he say he hated the first amendment or are you just strawmanning?
Yes roadways are public property but that doesn't give anyone the right to block them. Usually they require permits.

Next you argue that it should be illegal to discriminate against the public that paid for roads and security that allow businesses to operate.
what you seem to either not get or don't understand is that those businesses are part of the public as well. They pay more in taxes etc than
the general public does. you are the one arguing some kind of right when you pay taxes so if they are paying more taxes shouldn't they get to
decide how their businesses are run?

you miss the irony of the last sentence?
 
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