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Michelle: 'We're feeling what not having hope feels like'...

Moderate Right said:
I didn't vote for cry baby. Oh, wait a minute, which one are you talking about, Trump or Hillary? You guys were crying about the popular vote, then it was Comey, then it was recounting votes in three blue states, then it was the Russsians, and lately it is about the MSM not treating Hillary fairly. I didn't vote for Trump and I didn't vote for the real cry baby either.
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You guys? Please dont assume you know how I acted.
 
CriticalThought said:
I do not think anyone has hope. Millions had anger. That is what Trump channeled. Now his followers will learn that they need more than anger to live.
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Time to head back to your case of Kleenex ! :lol:
 
MickeyW said:
President Barack Obama’s administration achieved the platform he ran for president on: hope, according to first lady Michelle Obama, who implied that many Americans no longer have that hope as President-elect Donald Trump transitions into the White House.

“We feel the difference now. See, now, we’re feeling what not having hope feels like, you know,” the first lady told Oprah Winfrey in an interview excerpt broadcast Friday on “CBS This Morning.”
Michelle Obama: 'We’re feeling what not having hope feels like' - POLITICO

My thinking is this..... that for the first time in 8 years, we do have hope ....and great expectations.
I'm not alone, millions think the same way.
And, as noted in the text, "obama failed to live up to expectations."
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Every election candidates divide the populous via appeal to race, religion, gender, and sexual preference as a cheap cynical method of pandering for votes that has a byproduct of leaving the losing bunch feeling personally defeated and hopeless.

But what's important is whether the winners can get Americans' personal economies back on living-wage track.

Americans' buying power in general decreased under Obama. Where's the "hope" in that?!

Ms. Obama, for all her time spent in D.C., still doesn't get it that what truly matters politically to the overwhelming majority of Americans is our wallets, not the color of our skin, not the religion we practice, not what gender we are, and not the gender of those to whom we're attracted, and, although those things do matter to us personally and socially, when it comes to economics and geopolitics, a word to the wise, Ms. Obama: it's our economies, stupid!
 
notquiteright said:
I have zero doubt you think there is hope, and no doubt millions of others do as well...

howsomever millions are feeling the exact opposite, that Trump is going to bring a bitter harvest to our Republic.

I for one do think the Cons in Congress are as much to blame for any failure to live up to anything Obama pushed for as they refused to agree on issues that before Obama was elected they claimed to support... :shock:

But I rub my crystal ball- old farm fence accident- and predict Trump will fail to live up to his promises and there will be many bitter folks on the rabid right who feel once again the 'gubmint' has turned on them... :peace
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The Republican Congress didn't stand up to obama nearly as much as they should have....actually, they rolled over and really pissed me off.
See my 50 Presidents thread...I fully agree with it.

Ikari said:
I'm with you, but Trump's cabinet appointments are saying else wise.

Ultimately, we're going to have to see how it turns out, I hope that it's not as terrible as it looks like it's going to be.

Oh, hey, there's hope right there! lol
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You have to pick competent people to do the jobs. Loony radicals was obama's pick.
 
CanadaJohn said:
The shear arrogance of liberals is nauseating. Go away Michelle, take your failed Presidency husband with you, and you and the Clintons live out your existences in obscurity and let the rest of us get on with living.
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Unfortunately you know that will not happen.

Will will have to hear their big mouths until the day they all die.

They are not capable of keeping their opinions, however wrong, to themselves.

Jimmy Carter still can't keep his mouth.

That must be taught at the Demo9cratic Ex-President school.

Also, since Obama is leaving office, Michelle doesn't have to keep her mouth shut like she did for the last 8 years.

She can't harm her husband with her words anymore.
 
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MickeyW said:
The Republican Congress didn't stand up to obama nearly as much as they should have....actually, they rolled over and really pissed me off.
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Oh I think we all understand how the more radically partisan a person is the more umbrage they take at ANY failure to be 120% against a political rival. Sad fact is the rabid right in Congress was FOR some basic 'Obama' plans BEFORE he was elected to office and then rabidly AGAINST it all after the elections.

But to most reasoned folks the GOP was way past the realm of reasoned debate in being the Party of NO... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Oh I think we all understand how the more radically partisan a person is the more umbrage they take at ANY failure to be 120% against a political rival. Sad fact is the rabid right in Congress was FOR some basic 'Obama' plans BEFORE he was elected to office and then rabidly AGAINST it all after the elections.

But to most reasoned folks the GOP was way past the realm of reasoned debate in being the Party of NO... :peace
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How many bills had long term parking on Harry Reids desk?

If you can answer my question honestly, then you will see how your post makes little sense.

I think both parties played a huge hand in the stoppage.
 
notquiteright said:
Oh I think we all understand how the more radically partisan a person is the more umbrage they take at ANY failure to be 120% against a political rival. Sad fact is the rabid right in Congress was FOR some basic 'Obama' plans BEFORE he was elected to office and then rabidly AGAINST it all after the elections.

But to most reasoned folks the GOP was way past the realm of reasoned debate in being the Party of NO... :peace
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Sad fact is....you can't see that BOTH parties basically have their strings pulled by the same muppet masters
 
CanadaJohn said:
Yes, indeed - Obama's Presidency was such a winner you now have President Elect Trump and a Congress full of Republicans and soon a Supreme Court in the hands of conservatives, in the majority. Truly tragic, right??
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Quite so. The damage Trump will do to the world will be staggering.
 
Your Star said:
Quite so. The damage Trump will do to the world will be staggering.
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Quite possibly, but we don't know - the Trump Presidency could be almost anything from tragic to inspiring. What we do know for sure is that the Obama Presidency was a bust in so many ways. You can't predict the future with certainty, but you certainly can document the past.
 
notquiteright said:
Oh I think we all understand how the more radically partisan a person is the more umbrage they take at ANY failure to be 120% against a political rival. Sad fact is the rabid right in Congress was FOR some basic 'Obama' plans BEFORE he was elected to office and then rabidly AGAINST it all after the elections.

But to most reasoned folks the GOP was way past the realm of reasoned debate in being the Party of NO... :peace
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The Democrats have been the party of no for two years now and I see that continuing for at least four more years. Let's be honest, the party in the minority is the party of no.
 
RetiredUSN said:
How many bills had long term parking on Harry Reids desk? If you can answer my question honestly, then you will see how your post makes little sense. I think both parties played a huge hand in the stoppage.
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Ahhh the old 'they did it too' gambit, ok let's be honest, the rabid right looked to roll back history and for some many rights we all fought for. The Rabid right controlled house looked to pass laws on everything from 'defending marriage to defunding PPH... not tackling YUGE social problems facing us all. (like healthcare which many PUBs were for until the President was a dem and not BushII)

Honesty doden't lie in your question but in what was blocked by whom and for what reason...

as long as we are being 'honest'... :peace
 
Moderate Right said:
The Democrats have been the party of no for two years now and I see that continuing for at least four more years. Let's be honest, the party in the minority is the party of no.
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What NO are you talking about? Not wanting to throw Obamacare to the curb without an acceptable substitute? Or maybe refusing to defund PPH, please just what progress have the Democrats blocked?
 
notquiteright said:
What NO are you talking about? Not wanting to throw Obamacare to the curb without an acceptable substitute? Or maybe refusing to defund PPH, please just what progress have the Democrats blocked?
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What are you talking about? Both Trump and the Republicans have said they are not going to repeal Obamacare until a substitute takes it's place. The left is all about twisting the facts and fearmongering. The Republicans are perfectly fine with funding PPH, as long as they quit doing abortions. It is Democrats who are saying no to defunding PPH. Because it is Democrats who are saying no, they are the party of no because THEY are the ones saying no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-its-always-that-way/?utm_term=.de6a16e75262

https://youtu.be/Xs4bselnhHw
 
notquiteright said:
Ahhh the old 'they did it too' gambit, ok let's be honest, the rabid right looked to roll back history and for some many rights we all fought for. The Rabid right controlled house looked to pass laws on everything from 'defending marriage to defunding PPH... not tackling YUGE social problems facing us all. (like healthcare which many PUBs were for until the President was a dem and not BushII)

Honesty doden't lie in your question but in what was blocked by whom and for what reason...

as long as we are being 'honest'... :peace
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Hardly a "they did it too" point.

You can't pin this stuff all on one side.

The answer is 352 bills.

The went unanswered for because of him and his party, and you want the republicans to take all the blame?
 
Fishking said:
Nope. She said she was proud of her country for the first time in her life, and it was about her husband. That's her words, not mine. It was not a misinterpretation nor was it taken out of context.
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Given context, we can presume that she did not mean she had previously never been so. It's quite obvious that she meant in such a profound and changing way. She meant to give weight to the moment. Just be honest and decent, instead of wildly hateful, and you'll see that's clear. Aside from a handful of internet wingnuts (and perhaps a couple radio entertainers), everyone understands that. We would not be ok with a person in their 40's claiming to have never been proud of our country before. We're not morons. You need to think about this and stop presenting the ignorant douchebag perspective.

I think this was a good attempt/initiative on her part. There is a growing obesity problem in our youth and she was trying to address that.
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I think first ladies should continue her activism; it's non-political and constructive. As I mentioned, compared to Hillary's meddling it's a Godsend.
 
Ikari said:
No, there's no hope. Obama didn't have hope or change either, that was just standard, status quo, Republocrat Party stuffs. Expand government, give away as much as you can to the Banks and the Corps but try not to make it look like they are, expand wars, work against the freedom and liberty of the People.

Trump...it's not hope either. Trump is just going to go harder down the road of the Corporate State. We're just going to exacerbate the problems that exist now, but since the Republocrats are looking to establish the new aristocracy, this will ultimately be good for them. Both sides can claim that Trump was a renegade, but they'll take the world of aristocratic elitism and the death of the middle class Trump will help bring about.
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Just sayin...

We live in arguably one of the finest nations on the face of the earth. Any and every one can achieve their dreams. Our poor are fed, clothed, taken care of. Our mentally ill are treated. Our addicts have the possibility of redemption. Our children are protected. Our laws apply equally to all. Our Constitution is the envy of most other countries on the planet. We protect the weak and model strength.

Yet...

To read this board lately, one would believe we live in hell on earth. You talk about the death of the middle class. Really?? Do you really think our republic is so weak that it cannot withstand a four-year assault? And that's even if you BELIEVE the hyperbole you spout.

Honestly, not directed at you, but at all of us on Debate Politics, we should all be ashamed. The greatest country on earth and we act as if the freaking world has come to an end. I think we all need to grow the **** up.
 
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