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Human Sexuality Professor calls GOP Terrorist

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Orange Coast College Student Threatened With Expulsion After Recording Professor’s Anti-Trump Tirade « CBS Los Angeles
A political discussion in a college class touched off a firestorm.
A college professor went off on president-elect Donald Trump in her Orange Coast College class.
There are now threats of expulsion and threats of legal action.
CBS2’s Stacey Butler listened to the controversial rant. The human sexuality teacher — Olga Perez Stable Cox — called Trump’s election “an act of terrorism.”
“Our nation is divided. We have been assaulted. It is an act of terrorism,” she told the students.
She added, “One of the most frightening things for me, and most people in my life, is that the people who are committing the assault are among us.”
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[video]http://cbsloc.al/2gr3fQC[/video]

This video... powerful stuff. The vitriolic hate she spews... is, unhealthy.
 
Renae said:
[video]http://cbsloc.al/2gr3fQC[/video]

This video... powerful stuff. The vitriolic hate she spews... is, unhealthy.
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Just another lefty loon with their head exploding. :roll:

To think that this person is in front of a classroom of young adults, allegedly 'teaching' them (more like indoctrinating them).
I'm not sure she chose the best profession for her. I suggest she try again.
 
Renae said:
[video]http://cbsloc.al/2gr3fQC[/video]

This video... powerful stuff. The vitriolic hate she spews... is, unhealthy.
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I really hate idiotic rants like this from some folks. Yes, we are a nation divided and yes Trump is controversial. However, as much as I dislike Trump he, nor people that voted for him, are terrorists. One can argue that some Trump voters are extreme in their views, but definitely not terrorists. That word is getting thrown around way to much in the wrong way.
 
eohrnberger said:
Just another lefty loon with their head exploding. :roll:

To think that this person is in front of a classroom of young adults, allegedly 'teaching' them (more like indoctrinating them).
I'm not sure she chose the best profession for her. I suggest she try again.
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It's terrible really, the kid that filmed it is being threatened with expulsion, this lady needs to be summarily fired. Not for what she said, but that she said it as government employee in her capacity as a professor in a class about human sexuality. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong venue.
 
Renae said:
[video]http://cbsloc.al/2gr3fQC[/video]

This video... powerful stuff. The vitriolic hate she spews... is, unhealthy.
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She needs to pick up a Webster's Dictionary, and look up the actual definition of terrorism.
 
Renae said:
It's terrible really, the kid that filmed it is being threatened with expulsion, this lady needs to be summarily fired. Not for what she said, but that she said it as government employee in her capacity as a professor in a class about human sexuality. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong venue.
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I don't know what policies the college has towards recording teachers, if any. If it they do, they have every right to discipline the student. I think expulsion is going to far obviously given what the teacher was saying. The teacher should be fired IMO.
 
Praxas said:
I don't know what policies the college has towards recording teachers, if any. If it they do, they have every right to discipline the student. I think expulsion is going to far obviously given what the teacher was saying. The teacher should be fired IMO.
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Meh, transparency, you're a public college employee, you shouldn't have the right to not be filmed doing your job. If we can record police:
What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - The Atlantic
Professors can't tell you to either.
 
Renae said:
Meh, transparency, you're a public college employee, you shouldn't have the right to not be filmed doing your job. If we can record police:
What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - The Atlantic
Professors can't tell you to either.
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There are reasons recording typically isn't allowed. For instance if a student recorded a teacher every day, that recording could be used instead of paying to go to that college. There are copyright infringements, etc. It's not the same as recording the police.

Either way, I look at the intent of what the student was doing and it was not out of malice towards the school but to use as proof of the professors outrageous behavior. If I could make the decision, it would be not to punish the student but they may have zero tolerance policies. And the professor would be gone if I could make that choice as well.

In my opinion though, expulsion should not be the punishment and I hope the student has an avenue to fight it.
 
Renae said:
It's terrible really, the kid that filmed it is being threatened with expulsion, this lady needs to be summarily fired. Not for what she said, but that she said it as government employee in her capacity as a professor in a class about human sexuality. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong venue.
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He's being threatened by the Union, not the school. The school seems to be taking a "wait and see" attitude, but the Union is going "full out assault" on the kid trying to silence him. IMO, this story has as much to do with the pathetic way the Union will cover even the worst behavior from it's members as it does about the teacher's comments. If the Union had any integrity, they'd be telling the teacher: "Hit the streets. This isn't what we are about and you shouldn't be doing this kind of thing from the classroom." But the Union is about the Union and not the profession...
 
nota bene said:
Student Threatened With Legal Action After Recording Anti-Trump Lecture | Law News
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so there is such a policy and the student violated it.

The student was in the wrong for recording it (without consent of the instructor) and the teacher is wrong for what she said. The difference is in the punishments. I think the student's intent should be taken into consideration and if there "has" to be a punishment it should be minor (preferable none at all). While the punishment for the instructor should be termination of her job.
 
Some people have a hard time keeping their emotions in check. She should be punished for misrepresenting reality to these kids. Luckily, college kids usually don't give a crap about their professors anyways so I doubt the damage was that bad.
 
Renae said:
It's terrible really, the kid that filmed it is being threatened with expulsion, this lady needs to be summarily fired. Not for what she said, but that she said it as government employee in her capacity as a professor in a class about human sexuality. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong venue.
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"Wrong time, wrong place, wrong venue."

Spot on. Shows a distinct lack of judgement, judgement which really is an important, if not vital, part of being a teacher of students.

Agreed, she should be summarily fired.
 
Praxas said:
so there is such a policy and the student violated it.
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He also violated California state law, not just by recording it, but when he put it on Facebook without consent. Ooops


While the punishment for the instructor should be termination of her job.
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For what? Insulting the President-Elect? An exaggerated take on the political meaning of the election?

It was a human sexuality class, not a physics lecture. What she was talking about might offend someone's delicate sensibilities, has a political slant, but isn't out of place for the course subject material.
 
MrPeanut said:
Some people have a hard time keeping their emotions in check.
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She wasn't yelling, or pounding the podium. As far as rants go, it was very mild.


She should be punished for misrepresenting reality to these kids.
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Wow. Seriously? So you are in favor of censorship based on political views? Fascinating.
 
Visbek said:
She wasn't yelling, or pounding the podium. As far as rants go, it was very mild.



Wow. Seriously? So you are in favor of censorship based on political views? Fascinating.
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She's in charge of teaching students. This wasn't a casual conversation she was having outside of the classroom. The classroom is for learning not listening to the professor complain about things.
 
Love them teachers unions.

I love that she's a stereotypical liberal and delivers hate speech like no other, inappropriately, and then has the audacity to follow it up with a combination of censorship, and attacking a whistle blower.

Expel the student, yeah, that would be awesome CA. Promote the teacher for bringing publicity to the school while you're at it. Let those CA asshats fund her juicy pension, she's towing the line for sure.
 
Praxas said:
I think the student's intent should be taken into consideration and if there "has" to be a punishment it should be minor (preferable none at all).
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The student was acting as a whistle blower, of course they should be protected. If it was a teacher being a dork and they were trying to bully the teacher, that would be one thing. But it's not so.

A teacher preaching politics in such an ignorant manner, is inappropriate, and nuts. Remember, this is a professor who you are paying to teach you a subject, who subjectively judges your work and gives a grade. If she is that hot about Civil-war and terrorism, and she's knows your "part of the opposition", will that bias her when she's having to grade to her what is "a known terrorist, an enemy of war"? She clearly has a conflict of interest with half the population, according to here bigoted and ignorant views.
 
Praxas said:
so there is such a policy and the student violated it.

The student was in the wrong for recording it (without consent of the instructor) and the teacher is wrong for what she said. The difference is in the punishments. I think the student's intent should be taken into consideration and if there "has" to be a punishment it should be minor (preferable none at all). While the punishment for the instructor should be termination of her job.
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I linked to the relevant section of the California Code of Education. If the student is in violation, it's a misdemeanor. I don't know how you would gauge "intent," but ignorantia juris non excusant (ignorance of the law is no excuse).

Course content is an entirely different issue. There is generally a system of progressive discipline in place that will be followed, and there will be earnest discussion of academic freedom and the need to stick to the syllabus.

I don't think the solution to every problem is to terminate an employee.
 
Praxas said:
so there is such a policy and the student violated it.

The student was in the wrong for recording it (without consent of the instructor) and the teacher is wrong for what she said. The difference is in the punishments. I think the student's intent should be taken into consideration and if there "has" to be a punishment it should be minor (preferable none at all). While the punishment for the instructor should be termination of her job.
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I took a couple of evening classes at a local Community College recently, and it was common and encouraged for students to record teacher's lectures. They laid their little recorders all over the teacher's desk at the beginning of class.

There was a similar case at a Wisconsin college recently, where a teacher punished a student for speaking against same-sex marriage during a class discussion. What did the teacher expect? It was a Catholic university. A professor who later defended the student's right to speak was also threatened with firing. I think this is an example of gay rights run rampant. I am willing to accept same-sex marriage as law, but I don't want it taught in our schools.
 
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