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US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacking

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The US intelligence community has strong evidence that there was active and very elaborate meddling in the current US presidential election by the highest reaches of the Russian government. The Russians seemed to have been strongly attracted to Trump's claims that "NATO is obsolete", and wanting to weaken or disband it. Russia would love to see the western coalition weakened or completely unraveled, as well as to plant doubts into the minds of citizens living under western style democracies about the legitimacy of their governments.

Despite the red flags and alarms raised by the intelligence community, Mr. Trump appears not only not interested in pursuing any further investigation, but it seems he would be willing to actively obstruct any attempts at further investigation. After all, why go after the guys who helped get you elected, right?

"Republican and Democratic lawmakers say they plan to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, including the hacking of emails from Democratic political organizations and Hillary Clinton’s campaign staff. But their efforts face a strong headwind from President-elect Donald Trump, who has continued to deny that there is proof of Russia’s involvement.

U.S. intelligence and homeland security officials said in a rare public statement in October that the computer intrusions were directed by “Russia’s senior-most officials” in an unprecedented effort to interfere with the election. For some lawmakers, significant questions remain about how the Russian government transferred stolen emails to WikiLeaks, where they were published in the homestretch of the campaign, as well as Moscow’s role in the production of fabricated news stories that have littered the internet and appear intended to mislead voters...

A spokesperson for Mr. Lindsey Graham (R., SC) said he soon would join fellow GOP Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) in visiting Eastern European countries whose elections Russian hackers also are believed to have targeted. U.S. intelligence analysts have closely tracked those efforts, which included a proliferation of fake news sites, and now see the U.S. election hacking as part of a pattern of a broader campaign by Russia to interfere in the democratic process in the west...

But U.S. efforts to publicly probe what intelligence officials have called an “active measures” campaign by the Kremlin face an uncertain future. The bill to create an independent commission has no GOP sponsors. And it would have to be signed by a President Trump, who this week reiterated his statement that Russia wasn’t involved in the cyber campaign.

“I don’t believe they interfered,” Mr. Trump said in an interview with Time magazine, which chose him as its Person of the Year... Privately, U.S. intelligence officials have fumed at Mr. Trump’s refusal to acknowledge what they see as proof of a Russian hand...

Officials and congressional staff said there was some urgency in disclosing further details about the hacks, if possible, before Mr. Trump is inaugurated in January, when any further investigation might actively be blocked by the whitehouse..."
Congressional Calls Grow for a Probe of Russian Hacking in U.S. Election - WSJ
 
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Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Probably belongs in Conspiracy forum

But overall, he's not even President yet. If there are serious concerns, Obama can start an investigation before he's out of office.
 
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Well yeah, the article says that. But it seems they feel like they are in a real race against time to do so.


"Officials and congressional staff said there was some urgency in disclosing further details about the hacks, if possible, before Mr. Trump is inaugurated in January, when any further investigation might actively be blocked by the whitehouse..."
 
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The russians did the right thing..
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Well yeah, the article says that. But it seems they feel like they are in a real race against time to do so.


"Officials and congressional staff said there was some urgency in disclosing further details about the hacks, if possible, before Mr. Trump is inaugurated in January, when any further investigation might actively be blocked by the whitehouse..."

It is a race against time, so if it's so important and Trump is going to ignore it, Obama should get that ball rolling now. Force the GOP and Trump to cancel an investigation instead of authorize one.
 
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The US intelligence community has strong evidence that there was active and very elaborate meddling in the current US presidential election by the highest reaches of the Russian government. The Russians seemed to have been strongly attracted to Trump's claims that "NATO is obsolete", and wanting to weaken or disband it. Russia would love to see the western coalition weakened or completely unraveled, as well as to plant doubts into the minds of citizens living under western style democracies about the legitimacy of their governments.

Despite the red flags and alarms raised by the intelligence community, Mr. Trump appears not only not interested in pursuing any further investigation, but it seems he would be willing to actively obstruct any attempts at further investigation. After all, why go after the guys who helped get you elected, right?

"Republican and Democratic lawmakers say they plan to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, including the hacking of emails from Democratic political organizations and Hillary Clinton’s campaign staff. But their efforts face a strong headwind from President-elect Donald Trump, who has continued to deny that there is proof of Russia’s involvement.

U.S. intelligence and homeland security officials said in a rare public statement in October that the computer intrusions were directed by “Russia’s senior-most officials” in an unprecedented effort to interfere with the election. For some lawmakers, significant questions remain about how the Russian government transferred stolen emails to WikiLeaks, where they were published in the homestretch of the campaign, as well as Moscow’s role in the production of fabricated news stories that have littered the internet and appear intended to mislead voters...

A spokesperson for Mr. Lindsey Graham (R., SC) said he soon would join fellow GOP Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) in visiting Eastern European countries whose elections Russian hackers also are believed to have targeted. U.S. intelligence analysts have closely tracked those efforts, which included a proliferation of fake news sites, and now see the U.S. election hacking as part of a pattern of a broader campaign by Russia to interfere in the democratic process in the west...

But U.S. efforts to publicly probe what intelligence officials have called an “active measures” campaign by the Kremlin face an uncertain future. The bill to create an independent commission has no GOP sponsors. And it would have to be signed by a President Trump, who this week reiterated his statement that Russia wasn’t involved in the cyber campaign.

“I don’t believe they interfered,” Mr. Trump said in an interview with Time magazine, which chose him as its Person of the Year... Privately, U.S. intelligence officials have fumed at Mr. Trump’s refusal to acknowledge what they see as proof of a Russian hand...

Officials and congressional staff said there was some urgency in disclosing further details about the hacks, if possible, before Mr. Trump is inaugurated in January, when any further investigation might actively be blocked by the whitehouse..."
Congressional Calls Grow for a Probe of Russian Hacking in U.S. Election - WSJ

Remember when there were chemical weapons in Iraq? I remember those days.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Probably belongs in Conspiracy forum

But overall, he's not even President yet. If there are serious concerns, Obama can start an investigation before he's out of office.

Obama and crew have said there's no evidence of Russia affecting the election.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Probably belongs in Conspiracy forum

But overall, he's not even President yet. If there are serious concerns, Obama can start an investigation before he's out of office.

I am not sure about that. There have been reports of this and similar from other democracies recently. As it could easily be true, we absolutely must understand it and put into the public domain how it works.
 
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I am not sure about that. There have been reports of this and similar from other democracies recently. As it could easily be true, we absolutely must understand it and put into the public domain how it works.

Then why are we waiting around for Trump? Let's do this!
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Remember when there were chemical weapons in Iraq? I remember those days.

Actually the UN had confirmed the chemical weapons, didn't you know?
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Obama and crew have said there's no evidence of Russia affecting the election.

Citation needed.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Remember when there were chemical weapons in Iraq? I remember those days.

Of course. It's not hard to remember back to when Saddam had them, after all.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

The russians did the right thing..

What did they do?
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Then why are we waiting around for Trump? Let's do this!

That is, I hope, what is happening. The thing is, Obama must play ball. I wonder, if this is in any way true, whether he will want it made public that something that devastating happened, that he let it happen on his watch.
 
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Hey, who needs commies to screw up our elections when we have our own FBI doing just fine?
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

That is, I hope, what is happening. The thing is, Obama must play ball. I wonder, if this is in any way true, whether he will want it made public that something that devastating happened, that he let it happen on his watch.

That is already baked in the cake, the real question is if the FBI is so in the bag for Trump that they will not play ball. They very well might be protecting the Russians and Putin puppet Trump.
 
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Hey, who needs commies to screw up our elections when we have our own FBI doing just fine?

Especially when they might be both on the same side!
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Especially when they might be both on the same side!

Commie's/Comey's

Tomato, to-mah-toe....................
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

That is already baked in the cake, the real question is if the FBI is so in the bag for Trump that they will not play ball. They very well might be protecting the Russians and Putin puppet Trump.

Possibly. I doubt it, though. We must keep an eye on it.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Obama and crew have said there's no evidence of Russia affecting the election.

Probably said that in order to keep some rwnj from going on a shooting spree.
I'm sure the words were chosen as carefully as Jimmy Comey chose his when he sent his letter to Congress.

It's not too difficult to read between the lines though...
Right at the top of the article they mention "Russian attempts to undermine the election".
I don' t know how they can quantify how successful they may (or may not) have been.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

Probably said that in order to keep some rwnj from going on a shooting spree.
I'm sure the words were chosen as carefully as Jimmy Comey chose his when he sent his letter to Congress.

It's not too difficult to read between the lines though...
Right at the top of the article they mention "Russian attempts to undermine the election".
I don' t know how they can quantify how successful they may (or may not) have been.

It's just a meme used as an excuse for the Left's failure in this election. They never blame themselves.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

It's just a meme used as an excuse for the Left's failure in this election. They never blame themselves.

I don't think you know what a "meme" is.
 
Re: US Intelligence community baffled by Trump's refusal to investigate Russian hacki

I don't think you know what a "meme" is.

The whole "the russians did it" meme. Started before the election even occurred. You as a Leftist ran with it as the truth.
 
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