Fox News tripling CNN, MSNBC in viewers since Election Day

Orly? said:

I turned my cable TV off a year or so ago too in favor of extraordinary internet service..

America would be better off if more people followed this example..

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Fortunately the MSM are dying out on their very own, hastened by the fact that they are now so disreputable... maybe a CSPAN type can continue, plausibly, but the others should wither and die, replaced by hopefully something much better here, I agree.

I think there needs be established a site wherein no sides are specifically taken, that they have truly great writers, advocates from as many sides as possible, showcasing their points/ counter-points... each laying it out as best they can like the serious do right here [eliminate the one line negative ****slingers like we also have here] and then let their readership decide for themselves... like it is supposed to be in our great country.

If I were younger, had the energy and had the technical know-how, or could partner with others that so possess these skills, I think I would try to launch just such a necessary entity.

Because we truly need it, probably now more than ever before.

Gaugingcatenate said:

I think there needs be established a site wherein no sides are specifically taken, that they have truly great writers, advocates from as many sides as possible, showcasing their points/ counter-points... each laying it out as best they can like the serious do right here [eliminate the one line negative ****slingers like we also have here] and then let their readership decide for themselves... like it is supposed to be in our great country.

If I were younger, had the energy and had the technical know-how, or could partner with others that so possess these skills, I think I would try to launch just such a necessary entity.

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I have connections in internet/computer technologies fields, very highly skilled people in massive freelance talent markets..
I could come up with the talent to kick off a quality site at very minimal cost if not even pro bono or a share of the venture..
Many people that want gigs like this on the side and just do it for fun if they are down with the cause..

I also have heavy connections in crowdfunding if necessary, but I'd rather see people working towards a common goal of success than prepaid employees just doing a task..

A website with corresponding twitter youtube and facebook accounts is the easy part as far as I'm concerned.. SEO optimization experts, etc.

What can you do on the content talent end?
I don't know many politically minded writers other than here, and really 'know" none..

Orly? said:

I have connections in internet/computer technologies fields, very highly skilled people in massive freelance talent markets..
I could come up with the talent to kick off a quality site at very minimal cost if not even pro bono or a share of the venture..
Many people that want gigs like this on the side and just do it for fun if they are down with the cause..

I also have heavy connections in crowdfunding if necessary, but I'd rather see people working towards a common goal of success than prepaid employees just doing a task..

A website with corresponding twitter youtube and facebook accounts is the easy part as far as I'm concerned.. SEO optimization experts, etc.

What can you do on the content talent end?
I don't know many politically minded writers other than here, and really 'know" none..

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Personally, I don't think I am up for it per se, but its a great thought experiment, right?

What would the proper ingredients, policies, management style, etc... be to create just such an entity that actually tried to give you the facts from multiple views that the reader gets to choose from?

I would suggest you would need to put together a very diverse team of co equal people, who choose a leader and all of whom are savvy, have knowledge themselves, write well, or at least critique well, to frame the way in which news is to be released, or not, as representative of the reputation of the entity, at least generally, incorporating some editorial guidelines/ethics... at the same time allowing very much freedom but requiring as much as the known truth as can be gathered within a reasonable time.

Immediately starts getting iffy, tho.

What would be a reasonable time for instance? Case by case basis, but who decides? Who then decides and what would be the ethics and editorial guidelines. Fuzzy stuff.

The right people, the right values are tantamount. As regards talent, to my mind, there are definitely some keen minds on site that could be tapped. Especially in their areas of respective expertise.

Keeping it fresh/honest/balanced would be the constant maintenance item... some mechanism for reprising that freshness constantly would need be created.

Also a manner in which to choose the best writings on topics. Maybe a ladder, almost tournament style with brackets, the opposing sides choosing their own representatives as to progress up the ladder to the apex of being the one representative of that point of view to be pitted against all opposing ladder winners, the readers reading whatever they want, of any/all of those, of course...

Okay, beginning to go too far perhaps, sounds kinda hokey.

I am sure others could maybe contribute some even better ideas...or point out the weaknesses appearing already. Like I said, don't think I am the right guy for this, so probably lots of holes. It would truly be difficult and complex to create an above board, broad based news supplying entity. Writers maybe not concentrating on scoops at all, but good analysis when the majority of facts manifest themselves.

Becoming and being, rightly, received as credible. And the ongoing maintenance of that.

As they used to say, a tall order.

Anybody?

DA60 said:

Well, when I was referring to internet news sources, I was not referring to any of those that you listed as most of them are just internet versions of mainstream media sources.

I am talking about independent news sources on the web who have few sponsors. Sure, you have to wade through them and take them all with a grain of salt. But taken together, they can give you a far, FAR better picture of the world than major media sources.

Television news is worse than useless...has been for years. Unfortunately, it is where most middle aged people and the vast majority of seniors get their news from.

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Examples?

Orly? said:

CNN has been outed as a leftist propaganda outlet not above using lies to promote their agenda, so they are losing viewership.. FOX not so much..

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:roll:

The sad part is I think you, and many many others, have actually come to believe the propaganda you've been fed on this. First of all, Fox traditionally has outperformed CNN and MSNBC by a fairly substantial margin. To the best of my knowledge, it was only recently CNN challenged them in the ratings...during the election season. Once the election is over, if CNN's ratings drop back to where they roughly once were, then it tells you the election boosted CNN's ratings.

Your propaganda of "leftist" is dumb. But what's really funny is how you ignored the very important point I made, which doesn't surprise me in the least because those who spout the things you just did rarely want to discuss things honestly.

The fact is if CNN is "mainstream media", then a news channel which gets significantly higher ratings would also be considered "mainstream news" by any objective measure. It's incredibly stupid to call CNN mainstream and try to separate Fox from the mainstream.

katzgar said:

any chance you have a reputable source? The Hill certainly is not

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I guess you didn't read the article. Nielsen Research is the firm that handles TV Ratings.

On one hand, they'll whine out incoherent conspiracy theories about how the "liberal MSM" is somehow mind-controlling America and thereby directing its affairs.

On the other hand, they'll bray about how nobody watches the "liberal MSM" because Fox is so much better.




/facepalm

Orly? said:

Fox News tripling CNN, MSNBC in viewers since Election Day | TheHill

Almost one month removed from the election, the channel is more than tripling CNN and MSNBC in total viewers in primetime, with Fox averaging 2.9 million viewers to CNN’s 960,000 and MSNBC’s 959,000, according to Nielsen Research.
In the key 25-54-year-old demographic that advertisers covet most, Fox is beating CNN and MSNBC combined with 1.82 million viewers in the category versus 765,000 for CNN and 559,000 for MSNBC.

Fox is the only cable news network to increase viewership from before the campaign season ended.


People are seeing right through the liberal agenda MSM..

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So Fox is the MSM now right? Or are they some sort of exception when ya'll tell us to hate the MSM?

DA60 said:

Television news is worse than useless...has been for years.

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Indeed.

I'm flabbergasted that people think Fox is somehow better than the others. It's all vapid infotainment. All that really matters is the viewer's lean and the extent to which they need what they view to conform to what they already believe.

MaggieD said:

Fox is my choice for election news. Also my go-to for national breaking news.

My take-aways this morning are that Trump may be selecting too many military men for his cabinet which may pose a problem for confirmation...two interviews of congressmen on the Left who see it as a problem; President Obama, at a speech yesterday, claimed the strength of ISIS (which for some reason he calls ISIL) was not brought to him in his military briefings-they played his cuts where he said that and played the congressional testimony from three or four different military men who told of ISIS strength building in Syria and the atrocities committed there (2014) and told of Obama calling them "the JV team" at the same time. Then they editorialized that Obama tended to fire those generals who played up ISIS strength. ?

I'm thinking, from this information, that General Petraus is probably out of the running unless Trump appoints him as a sacrificial lamb knowing he won't get through. Might be a good move, actually.

For those on the left who constantly berate the station, I doubt they watch it so the only opinion they have is from gossips. Three times on this website in the past week, I've asked detractors to tell us about specific lies or specific examples of biased reporting. Those claiming same never came back.

We need more critical thinking in this country. In my opinion, of course.

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IIRC, Obama calls them ISIL because he refuses to recognize them as an actual state which calling them ISIS kind of does right in the name.

Orly? said:

Fox News tripling CNN, MSNBC in viewers since Election Day | TheHill

Almost one month removed from the election, the channel is more than tripling CNN and MSNBC in total viewers in primetime, with Fox averaging 2.9 million viewers to CNN’s 960,000 and MSNBC’s 959,000, according to Nielsen Research.
In the key 25-54-year-old demographic that advertisers covet most, Fox is beating CNN and MSNBC combined with 1.82 million viewers in the category versus 765,000 for CNN and 559,000 for MSNBC.

Fox is the only cable news network to increase viewership from before the campaign season ended.


People are seeing right through the liberal agenda MSM..

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All 1.3 percent of the U. S. adult population are seeing through it.

Orly? said:

Those behind the curtain would also say it is a cesspool of truth..

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Yeah... some do.